On 2025-02-03 5:37 p.m., Sean Conner via cctalk wrote:
Do you mean you want a compiler to generate 16-bit code? Or be compiled
as a 16-bit program to run under Linux? If the later, it's not supported,
or at least, not supported by default [1].
I was hoping to use Embeddable Linux Kernel S
On 2025-02-03 5:06 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 2/3/25 15:47, ben via cctalk wrote:
No compiler generates bad code,just some hardware was never meant to
have stack based addressing, like the 6502 or the 8088/8086.
Really? The x86 family does indeed have stack-based addressing. In
hone works.
I need it top secret I have shoe phone.
--Chuck
It is not malware, but good marketing to have to upgrade
on every release.
Ben.
PS. is me or just the internet browsing getting so full of ads
and questionable redirects that on can't use it any more.
On 2025-02-03 3:32 p.m., Sean Conner via cctalk wrote:
It was thus said that the Great ben via cctalk once stated:
At the root of Open Source is you, the user, have the right to the
source code.
In the early days, that's as far as it went but especially after the
Morris Worm, sec
>
> At the root of Open Source is you, the user, have the right to the
source code.
>
> In the early days, that's as far as it went but especially after the
> Morris Worm, security became very important, Open Source afforded
> users the ability to inspect the code for vulnerabilities in ways tha
On 2025-02-02 11:02 p.m., Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote:
I have numerous co-workers that bash Microsoft all day long. And yeah,
I've had my Windows hourglass twirl around inexplicitly. "I'm not DOING
anything, why am I hourglassed?" But I respect the challenge of trying to
get millions of peop
On 2025-02-02 11:09 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 2/2/25 17:22, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
Not quite lost. The 1802 crowd is doing amazing things.
See https://groups.io/g/cosmacelf/message/33678
And if you know anything about the 1802, it's, uh, not so speedy.
At its introductio
On 2025-02-01 10:11 a.m., Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote:
On Sat, 1 Feb 2025, roger arrick via cctalk wrote:
I'm happy to see people using the correct shell letter for DSubs around
here! Oldschool wisdom.
You kinda have to when you get at things such as DA-3W3.
Maciej
I have no i
On 2025-02-01 6:37 a.m., Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
IME +/- 12V was a de-facto standard on microcomputers because they
already had a +12V and -12V rail, along with +5V. The ubiquitous 4116
DRAM needed +5V, -5V and +12V so +/- 5V was a popular option too.
Apple was smart with their swit
nk.
Once I get better mother board PCB working, I then can
work on some kind of disk io, and timer interrupt.
No MMU is planned.
Ben.
On 2025-01-31 4:25 a.m., Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
A couple of points you might like to consider, which you may already
know but stuff you've said above doesn't spell it out:
RS232 is not serial - make yourself clear. Before RS232 the same data
format was used in current loop (often 2
On 2025-01-26 12:11 p.m., Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk wrote:
On 1/25/2025 5:55 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
Can this stop already?
Will the circle be unbroken?
(Except that some people maintain it's a square)
I pick 3, the Reuleaux.
Ben.
PS: Less fiction with this topic,
On 2025-01-24 11:04 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
And, it would was close enough to make it obvious that if you want to
sail west from europe to the indies, you are going to run out of
supplies long before you get there! Unless you are dumb lucky, and
happen to bump into some land on the
On 2025-01-23 8:15 a.m., Alexander Schreiber wrote:
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 12:52:49PM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2025-01-21 10:54 a.m., Paul Koning wrote:
Uh, what? How would the earth surface gravity be that much different? "Citation
needed" as Wikipedia would say.
On 2025-01-21 10:54 a.m., Paul Koning wrote:
Uh, what? How would the earth surface gravity be that much different? "Citation
needed" as Wikipedia would say.
paul
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodynamics
were just crawling onto land.
They just seem more interesting than today's RISC's. Byte addressing
may have been a step backwards do to the loss 1 bit the order code
and 1 bit in address ranges.
Ben.
On 2025-01-20 7:41 a.m., cz via cctalk wrote:
That is not a solution either: It just locks the AI into a 2015 or so
time period where they can't adapt to changing writing or speaking
styles. All the output is going to sound like an outdated person.
I'm already seeing this in "appliance repair"
On 2025-01-19 2:15 p.m., Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
While we're at it, biological science had clearly been unable to create
life. Not even a single cell. And I've no reason to believe we're about
to see a breakthrough it that either.
You have not seen the stuff way behind in my fridge
On 2025-01-19 11:03 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 1/19/25 09:39, Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk wrote:
What happened to them? They're everywhere in academic papers. They've
become an easy way to get published. Nowadays they make up so many bio-
inspired variations of these algori
On 2025-01-19 6:12 a.m., Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote:
I like to parse the 'artificial' differently. It's not AN artificial
intelligence - a manufactured entity that exhibits intelligence - it's JUST
artificial intelligence - something that appears to be intelligence but
isn't, like artificial
On 2025-01-19 3:07 a.m., Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 08:27:05PM +, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
[...]
My robot vacuum has taken to asking "Please empty my dustbin and clean my
filter" about 5 minutes after I did that. More annoyingly, it insists that
"I'm stuck
On 2025-01-18 1:42 p.m., Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
Around 1981 I wrote what would now be called chatbot in 6502 (on an OSI
500 board - obligatory old computer content) that was placed in our
local library for the public to have a go on. Because most people hadn't
seen a computer, never
On 2025-01-18 1:27 p.m., Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
On 18/01/2025 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
A little humor for the group.
I also have a bunch of iRobot Roombas in my house. Based on my
experience with AI and robots I think there is no chance we will
have to worry about
h like a 16-bit
derivative of Burroughs ALGOL.
Gadzooks, A PDP running something other than B ^H C. :)
paul
Did Burroughs ALGOL, make cleaner software for people that used it?
What about FORTRAN users? (I keep wanting to spell FORTAN)
Ben.
On 2025-01-17 7:59 a.m., Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
Pascal is really sort of a dialect of Algol, so I thought this was
somewhat on topic.
That is the DARK side of computing, Real computers are found in the
BATCAVE and can even run ALGOL 58. (batman 1967) :)
http://www.starringthecomputer.co
On 2025-01-15 5:17 p.m., David Wise via cctalk wrote:
Pretty sure it does stop, if it runs out of addend and there’s no carry.
I think being dumb is the smart thing to do.
On 2025-01-14 6:29 a.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Floppies were later used for data-entry (1973, 33FD for 3740). In those
days, data entry was for "mainframes". That was the "first" to use the
soft sectored format, which became the "standard". ("3740 SSSD format")
It held same data as 3
On 2025-01-13 9:33 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
FORTRAN was a dead end, both in syntax (line-oriented, line numbers) and
semantics (common blocks, static arrays, very poor string support).
Fortran 2025, the sixth edition, is rather different from 1956.
But, a real programmer can write
On 2025-01-13 6:55 p.m., Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk wrote:
I would expect universal condemnation for anyone who would ask if FLACC
were designed for floppies.
Did mainframes ever have a floppy option?
Do any copies exist and what was the meduium?
On 2025-01-13 4:00 p.m., David Wade via cctalk wrote:
More like not enough actual memory. You can fit an acceptable basic into
a 4K ROM so it will work without a disk drive.
Its an interpreter so can do checks as you type it in.
Its far easier to learn than Algol.
8K ROM got you APL.
On 2025-01-13 3:10 p.m., Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
Ben
I shall simply comment that for a useless language it did a lot of good, signal
processing, work for me all but 50 years ago
I never said it was bad, just kept being delayed by politics.
As an example, you could define matrix
On 2025-01-13 12:18 p.m., Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:
I used AlgolW on MTS at UBC in ’78 as a CS undergrad.
Still have the textbook “FANGET AN - an algolw primer”, and my greenbar listings
(but threw out the box of batch cards some years go, lol).
I rather liked algol, the course work moved
On 2024-12-13 4:54 p.m., hupfadekroua via cctalk wrote:
Look at https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems
But the problem with privately operated sites could be, that they might vanish
at some point.
Andreas
And how is that different from a Commercial Site?
Geo-cities comes to mind.
Th
On 2024-12-10 6:42 p.m., Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
Or, more importantly, are we all living in a VR?
What is reality?
On 12/10/2024 7:21 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:
Been waiting 45 years for the new IBM OS. Not holding my breath. :)
Ahhh...but are you sure we're all not already r
y one know the fine details of bit-banging a micro SD card, mostly
the reset sequence and where to sample or set CS_ , MSO , MSI and
clock. The boiler plate code is there, I just need Initialize data,
write 80 clocks, read byte, write byte routines, to reset the SD card.
Ben.
Another midnight snack a 1 AM.
What about porting the old share-ware window libraries for dos?
On 2024-12-04 12:14 p.m., Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote:
On 2024-12-04 14:09, Tony Duell wrote:
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 7:06 PM Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
wrote:
[6809]
I agree. The user stack pointer was a killer feature.
I like(d) the progam counter relative addressing mode along with
On 2024-11-16 2:43 p.m., Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
Think of how much better the state of the microprocessor would be IBM
had chosen the 68000 Linear Architecture rather than the 8086
Segment:Offset with separate I/O instructions and only 1 interrupt
architecture.
I don't mean to start a hug
of infrequent use...
If it works why change it?
Don't modern leds use a still glow after being turned off?
Ben.
PC world hasn't been the same since.
Happy computing,
Murray 🙂
2024 Ben has a new 18 bit computer design, using ATF1508 128 cell
CPLD's. Of course I need the latest PeeCee to program them.
https://store.rosco-m68k.com/products/little-atf-programmer
Of course when I get the low cost p
On 2024-11-03 9:37 p.m., Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:06 AM Mychaela Falconia via cctalk
wrote:
Paul Koning wrote:
1. Show a one-word PDP-11 program that writes all of memory, in reverse order.
MOV -(PC),-(PC)
Does that work on all models of PDP11?
I had an idea
On 2024-10-24 4:35 p.m., Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
And yet, Minix ran on the 8088.
NO the PC, and even then it was developed under a UNIX emulator.
Some where I read, wen ported to the PC it would randomly crash.
This was later found to a case of undocumented irq service routine
for m
On 2024-10-24 3:21 p.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 1:45 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
The author, presumably a heavy Reddit, TikTok and Facebook user, seemed
to
have never heard about existence of computers before internet, nor about
On Thu, 24 Oct 2024, Jo
On 2024-10-24 11:49 a.m., Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk wrote:
The author, presumably a heavy Reddit, TikTok and Facebook user, seemed to
have never heard about existence of computers before internet, nor about
Y'all are ignoring CompuServe and that is hurting my feelings :-)
Was all that
On 2024-10-23 8:36 p.m., Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote:
Yes, UUCP was literally a thing, but UNIX was unobtanium in the early
computing eral - The world of the University Minicomputer.
It certainly wasn't even vaguely accessible by a hobbyist running a
Z80 or 6800 in the late 70's.
I vividly re
On 2024-10-20 10:34 a.m., Donald Whittemore via cctalk wrote:
Finally got the program I had a friend write back in 2009 working. I had it
written specifically because I had this disk.
Shades of watching a 2311 working. 😀
http://www.myimagecollection.com/webpics/exercise.mp4
Now, let's do this
On 2024-10-12 7:40 p.m., Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 10/12/24 20:07, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 10/12/24 16:25, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
Didn’t all the IBM mainframes use 400hz? Maybe ask the IBMers how
they got 400hz.
Also, can the local power company supply it?
Oh, the IBM 7090 seri
On 2024-10-12 1:47 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 10/12/24 11:54, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:
I remember summer employment at a drive-in movie theater during my
summers working as a projectionist. Power supply for the DC carbon arc
lamps was supplied by a 40 Hp MG set located in i
On 2024-10-09 2:30 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
MSX is unknown in USA!
It was for Z80, and the disk format was MS-DOS
I saw some at comdex.
I waited for MSX machines to showup here, but it never happened,
although I did find [and buy] a Yamaha MSX machine from Waite Group, at
John Craig'
On 2024-10-09 4:08 a.m., Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 at 04:37, ben via cctalk wrote:
Dos also has no subdirectories.
(?)
So did the hundreds of other 8 bit operating
systems.
(??)
The point here, was until hard disks with the PC became common you had
the tiny
h my DVD player?
I had it play once, hung and never worked since.
How many times have you got a product, but it never worked with your
system or it got discontinued? 3D movies are a good example,
I got a 3D projector and then found they no longer made 3D movies
in that format.
Since I wear glasse
uot; SSSD was not applicable. He said:
The disks are boot media and other materials relating to the RSRE Flex
operating system <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flex_machine> as
developed for PERQ workstations.
Why are we archiving now, 25 years ago was the deadline?
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
Ben.
card?
Ben.
On 2024-10-02 2:52 p.m., bluewater emailtoilet.com via cctalk wrote:
Some PC HD maker offered a drive with a clear top so you could see the heads
moving. I had a friend write a VB program to do random seeks. It was fun to
watch. Still have the drive and the program. Don’t know if the program wi
b
Why would do something so new?
We all know keypunches back then came with coding forms
and the odd monkey.
Ben, ducking the thrown banana.
seems a bit short for the pre-heat delay.
paul
That works nice for both audio and digital power supplies.
One can add a relay to latch the output after the time delay, as well as
turn off the power to the time delay.
5 seconds sounds good for a core memory power supply.
Ben.
On 2024-09-23 7:22 a.m., Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 03:43:01PM -0500, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote:
[...]
You should see what a DIP 8250-compatible UART costs...
The venerable 16550 is an 8250-compatible, so that would be $4.47 from
Digikey, plus another couple of
r, Arduinos are still more expensive than stickers. But, keep
waiting.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
The price is 25 cents, or $2,500 when you need one.
I was more a lucky elephant person.
Ben.
On 2024-09-11 2:18 p.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 11:49 AM ben via cctalk
wrote:
Now even a TTL version.
https://hackaday.io/project/190345-isetta-ttl-computer/log/232670progress-of-new-pcb
That link is bad. It is not good.
The link worked fine before the
imaginary realm. -200j,3 is my guess.
The number of retro 6502/z80 projects seem to be on the rise.
Now even a TTL version.
https://hackaday.io/project/190345-isetta-ttl-computer/log/232670progress-of-new-pcb
It is the lack of cases that sadly are limited.
Ben.
On 2024-08-17 1:46 a.m., Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 11:42:01PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2024-08-16 12:11 p.m., Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
[...]
From what I can tell of a casual peruse of the documentation of CP/M-68K
and CP/M-86, they support the full
>> By the way, the earth is round...
>
> I'm glad we can agree on this. Of course the Earth is round.
>
> It's also hollow.Oh it is a donut!>
> To try and turn this thread around: I'm looking to make an extended
> memory controller for my pdp8/L. I've got a wire wrap backplane and
> enough cards t
On 2024-08-30 12:00 p.m., Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote:
Fred Cisin wrote:
We have our own non-theological religious wars, such as vi vs emacs.
TECO
Don
Does anybody use that any more?
On 2024-08-29 1:53 p.m., Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
On 29/08/2024 17:27, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote:
The solution is right in front of us. One of us here has to become a
multi-billionaire and create a museum to save all this stuff! Let the
fighting and bickering begin!
Any idea
On 2024-08-29 11:59 a.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Any ideas on how to become a billionaire?
For a few decades, we have been saying that
"We must do whatever it takes to make Bill Gates into a millionaire."
it is called TAX!
billion fools with money. :)
While most of it was luck, and the right place at the right time, Apple
, Microsoft, Intel & Zilog and the 6502* it still took a lot of work to
get there in the early days.Only later did they get rich.
Ben.
PS: * Had to say the 6502, or a cult with torches might show u
On 2024-08-16 12:11 p.m., Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
CP/M was effectively limited to 64KiB because it had no traction outside of
the 8080/Z80 which had a 64KiB address space. To go beyond that limit on
those CPUs involves paging, and some platforms did indeed use paging for RAM
disks and to
On 2024-08-16 8:56 a.m., Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 01:41:20PM -0600, ben via cctalk wrote:
[...]
I don't know about the VAX,but my gripe is the x86 and the 68000 don't
automaticaly promote smaller data types to larger ones. What little
programming I hav
play.Text windows worked under DOS.something easy
to program. I don't want write a whole operating system to use modern
software like windows.
Grumpy Ben, trying to find a embedded C compiler for the 68000.
PS: Perhaps if they had good textbook for C and the different
standards I might view mode
the 10 is like. a billion times
more stuff
This list needs a good machine shop as well, for older I/O devices.
Or a least a parts list of spares.
Old computers I think had better doc's than today, that had real
information,
Ben.
On 2024-08-15 7:39 p.m., cz via cctalk wrote:
Eh, it will go for what it goes. Try and keep in mind how tough it was
to keep a 1010 running in 1995. Then add 30 years to that.
The thought of tracking down a bad flip flop on a thousand flip chip
boards really makes me think "yow".
True, but b
^H is the best.
PL/I tried to fit data types, to have variable width that I think was a
good idea. foobar Binary:unsigned:36 bits:mixed endian,volatile,module
blah,dynamic array x y z. It least then you know what foobar does.
HUMBUG foo, not so clear.
Ben, still thinking 18 bit computers are just
On 2024-08-15 11:00 a.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
The short answer is "it's historic and manufacturers have done it in different
ways".
You might read the original paper on the topic, "On holy wars and a plea for
peace" by Danny Cohen (IEN-137, 1 april 1980):
https://www.rfc-editor.org
CEMENT to complete the boot
process.
...or something like that.
There's a tugboat down by the river, don't you know
Where a cement bag's just a-drooping on down
Oh, that cement is just, it's there for the weight, dear
Five'll get ya ten, ol' Gates's back in town
--Carey
Ben
On 2024-07-29 10:09 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024, Rod Bartlett wrote:
I found Tim Peterson's old blog a while back which contained some
interesting tidbits about the history of DOS from the original author.
http://dosmandrivel.blogspot.com/
I did find one unimportant
On 2024-07-23 1:31 p.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jul 23, 2024, at 2:09 PM, Gavin Scott wrote:
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:11 AM Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
It's interesting that the designers of ARRA spoke about what they did, and were quite
honest about their mistakes. Quite re
On 2024-07-23 12:09 p.m., Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:11 AM Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
It's interesting that the designers of ARRA spoke about what they did, and were quite
honest about their mistakes. Quite refreshing. Unfortunately that narrative is in
Dutch
can't find lose parts, but you still seem to be able to find kits
https://unicornelectronics.com/Apple1/apple1.html
Ben.
On 2024-07-22 7:06 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Besides slide rules, etc.
If you have an analog computer consisting of a 5 gallon bucket, and a 3
gallon bucket, and plenty of water available, What are the steps for a
PROGRAM to get a result of 4 gallons of water in the 5 gallon bucket?
esn't work well.
— Konrad Zuse
Ben.
On 2024-07-21 8:29 a.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
I'm pretty sure the book included "Working" in the title because who wants
to build a non-working computer?
Also, mechanical analog computer = slide rule :)
Sellam
A working computer, is one that makes money?
Ben.
On 2024-07-20 10:41 p.m., Tony Duell via cctalk wrote:
On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 3:08 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk
wrote:
What I meant was that in the title of the book they use "digital computer"
and I wonder if there was ever a book describing a mechanical "analog
computer" - and what they might
equipment here?
This mini looks rather large to ship.
https://retrocomputingforum.com/t/20-bit-mini-ge-225-spotted-in-canberra-vcf/4234/2
Ben.
On 2024-07-02 1:05 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jul 2024, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote:
Chinese to UK shipments are still relatively cheap but have also risen
somewhat with more sellers charging for postage.
eBay Chinese shipping seems impossibly low.
Keep it that way, I ne
ts to box and crate the stuff,and wait a few
weeks on a ship any more.
Ben.
PS I suspect some people have so much stuff here, they could ship,
to Australia, it could flip to up over.
On 2024-07-01 6:04 p.m., Mike Stein via cctalk wrote:
Hey, I sent you a motherboard from Toronto all the way to the South
Pole, remember? Well, OK, via San Francisco, but It wasn't too bad
then.
Hey there must be lots of vintage stuff at the south pole
nobody ships stuff back. :)
On 2024-07-01 3:06 p.m., Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 7:58 AM Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
... vendors mostly
refuse to ship internationally and buyers won't look at stuff that's
abroad.
If you aren't used to customs declaration forms, it can be a pain.
Back in the 80
. I grumble about the loss of knowledge in libraries
as older computer books get trashed.A lot computers must get tossed also
do to lack of software.
Ben.
Get a C64 now with a free dumpster.
s.
Removing skips, add one opcode bit.
Hmm 21 bits already..
Looking for a C-compiler that is easy to re-target, and a OS to go with it.
Ben.
On 2024-06-13 12:06 p.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jun 13, 2024, at 2:00 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
On 6/13/24 10:32, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Huh? There is no direct connection between word length, register count, and
pipeline length.
Indeed. There are architecture
On 2024-06-13 11:32 a.m., Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
e up an entire chassis, 750-ish logic modules.
You never see a gate level delays on a spec sheet.
Our pipeline is X delays + N delays for a latch.
Gate level delays are not interesting for the machine user to know. What is interesting
On 2024-06-13 9:40 a.m., Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
AACK! Sorry, that was supposed to be F-16!
The divide bug strikes again.
Jon
What would one use today instead of the 586?
Ben.
est RTTY setup, or is it fewest parts.
Does any one do RTTY or slow scan TV now days?
Ben.
On 2024-06-10 10:05 a.m., Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote:
On 10/06/2024 00:28, ben via cctalk wrote:
The CPU Price it keeps going UP ... :(
8008 $25 1975
8080 $75 MITS kit 1975
8088 $125
386 $130 (286 $20)
Hardly, you can pick up a new CPU today for less than $50. It's not
going
On 2024-06-10 10:18 a.m., Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote:
On 10/06/2024 05:54, dwight via cctalk wrote:
No one is mentioning multiple processors on a single die and cache
that is bigger than most systems of that times complete RAM.
Clock speed was dealt with clever register reassignment, pipelinin
On 2024-06-09 11:01 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 6/9/24 08:40, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
Intel introduced to the world the x86 processor: the CISC technology still
with us. So what has changed other than speed and upward development?
The Internet?
Really, it's always been
On 2024-06-09 10:59 a.m., Milo Velimirović via cctalk wrote:
Word length. :)
On Jun 9, 2024, at 10:40 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk
wrote:
Intel introduced to the world the x86 processor: the CISC technology still
with us. So what has changed other than speed and upward development?
Happ
On 2024-05-28 5:45 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 5/28/24 16:29, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2024-05-28 1:23 p.m., John via cctalk wrote:
So what, then, consitutes a Real Operating System, and why?
I am grumpy about OS's like MSDOS, in that programs kept by passing
DOS to handle s
On 2024-05-28 1:23 p.m., John via cctalk wrote:
So what, then, consitutes a Real Operating System, and why?
I am grumpy about OS's like MSDOS, in that programs kept by passing
DOS to handle screen, and serial IO.
I also favor OS's that don't require one to build a file control block.
On 2024-05-28 10:58 a.m., Tony Duell wrote:
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 5:56 PM ben via cctalk wrote:
--First Appartment I lived in had gas refrigerator/stove AND still had some
fixtures for gas lighting. washer/dryer/furnace/hot water were all shared in
basement, real screw in fuses (not
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