[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

On 1/25/2025 1:04 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: The theory that the earth is flat is clearly disproven. Aristotle worked it it was basically spherical, yet crackpots believe it's flat to this day - often because their scripture said o

[cctalk] AI? Really?

A little humor for the group. Among my other "legacy" systems I also have and still fool around with a bunch of TRS-80's. Believe it or not, the Z80 based TRS-80's were among the systems for which a version of STVOS was available. Thought I would look to see if any of it was still floating ar

[cctalk] Re: Try Algol 68 on Windows

On 1/13/2025 4:31 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: Re: “Algol seemed to vanish off the face of the earth. “ I think the popularity of languages is due to how trendy they are to teach in Colleges. Witness the popularity of Python. That’s being taught in school these days. Thus the reason I am

[cctalk] Re: Try Algol 68 on Windows

On 1/13/2025 3:57 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2025-01-13 12:18 p.m., Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: Funny when the 8 and 16 bit micros hit the market, Algol seemed to vanish off the face of the earth. Was 64KB too small a address space? ALGOL ran just fine on the PDP-11. bill

[cctalk] Re: VT-100 Text Windows library

On 12/5/2024 9:19 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 12/5/2024 5:51 PM, Wayne S wrote: Oh. You didn’t specify the host type, although an esp MAY be fast enough. The Vax wasn’t that fast to begin with and ran in less than 4 MB memory so maybe… The first VAX 11/780 I used came with 512 KB

[cctalk] Re: VT-100 Text Windows library

On 12/5/2024 6:16 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: Under VMS i think the smg$ routines did that. I was going to mention something from the old comp.source.xxx newsgroup but it would have been for Unix and he specifically said bare metal. bill

[cctalk] Re: Passing of T. Kurtz

On 11/15/2024 8:49 PM, Mike Katz wrote: Which "The Book" are you talking about. BASIC PROGRAMMING Second Edition By John G. Kemeny and Thomas E. Kurtz Is there any other authority on BASIC? bill

[cctalk] Re: Passing of T. Kurtz

On 11/15/2024 9:29 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Today another giant in the ‘microcomputer’ industry has passed: Thomas Eugene Kurtz a computer scientist, co-creator/inventor with John Kemeny of the BASIC language that I grew up with. Somewhat dates me! I still have my copy of T

[cctalk] Re: Running DOS executables on other versions of DOSRe: Looking for Sharp PC-5000 disk drive (CE-510F or possibly MZ-80B)

On 11/4/2024 1:38 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Non-descript 5.25  DS/DD  (they don't format as 1.2M disk using a 1.2 5.25" drive, so I'm pretty sure they are actual 360KB disks).   That said, I On Mon, 4 Nov 2024, osi.superboard via cctalk wrote: from my experience, these "Non-descript"

[cctalk] Re: Ward Christensen NY Times Obituary

On 11/2/2024 5:26 AM, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: On 11/2/24 01:15, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: For a few year VMS was the OS of the "internet".  I remember wondering in 1991 or 1992 if UNIX would still be around by 2000 From what I can recall, there were a lot of VAXen on the net

[cctalk] Re: Ward Christensen NY Times Obituary

On 10/24/2024 10:04 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: On 2024-10-24 4:35 p.m., Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: And yet, Minix ran on the 8088. NO the PC, and even then it was developed under a UNIX emulator. Some where I read, wen ported to the PC it would randomly crash. This was later found

[cctalk] Re: Ward Christensen NY Times Obituary

On 10/23/2024 10:46 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2024, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: Yes, UUCP was literally a thing, but UNIX was unobtanium in the early computing eral - The world of the University Minicomputer. It certainly wasn't even vaguely accessible by a hobbyist

[cctalk] Re: Ward Christensen NY Times Obituary

On 10/23/2024 3:22 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 23 Oct 2024, Robert Feldman via cctalk wrote: Ward Christensen, Early Visionary of Social Media, Dies at 78 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/21/technology/ward-christensen-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UU4.nswM.540OUXuySX84&smid

[cctalk] Re: NTE is dead

On 10/1/2024 1:31 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: And, you are very lucky!  We used to have two electronic stores, and now both have closed up. When I was a kid we had a dozen. 8 Retail and 4 wholesale (but sold singles and small quantities to the public). Today, we also have none. R

[cctalk] Re: auction starting in 50 minutes

On 9/12/2024 10:44 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: Yes, but a Christies certificate of authentication is a gold standard. Only that you got it from Christies. bill

[cctalk] Re: auction starting in 50 minutes

Buyer can forever say this was Paul Allen's [item name].  The providence On Thu, 12 Sep 2024, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: How do you prove it?  Kinda like Babe Ruth baseballs. The closest that you can get is records of the serial number. And statements of experts. A signed st

[cctalk] Re: auction starting in 50 minutes

On 9/12/2024 9:01 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: I wonder if anyone has done a study of high-profile auction sale prices vs apples to apples contemporary sales prices (ebay, etc) of the same item. Paul Allen's [item name] will always sell for more that Joe Schmo's [item name]. Buyer can fo

[cctalk] Re: auction starting in 50 minutes

On 9/12/2024 8:29 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: This lot-group is closed. Sale prices were insane. https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/firsts-history-computing-paul-g-allen-collection/lots/3726

[cctalk] Re: Antonio's call for donations (was LCM auction)

On 8/30/2024 1:45 PM, Norman Jaffe via cctalk wrote: You do realize that 'Pureblood' is a phrase most definitely associated with the Aryan Nations and other neo-Nazi, white supremacist hate groups? And Wizards and Witches. Don't forget them. bill

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On 8/29/2024 2:46 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: Speaking of Bill Gates, does anyone know if he collects? He might collect something but I doubt it has anything to do with computers. I don't think he ever had any interest in computers other than as a means to get rich. And at the time he s

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On 8/29/2024 8:11 AM, cz via cctalk wrote: Unfortunately, museums are no longer a safe place for donated and rare artifacts. Paul Allen's heirs just want to keep their $17 billion for themselves. Never have been. If there is one thing in life I have learned it's that the purpose of a museu

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction

On 8/27/2024 10:10 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2024, 5:33 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: $3400 for the premier issue of Mac World? Who would pay that much for this? Bill That's pretty much what I'm thinking for the vast majority of this stuff. The Altair 8800

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS

On 8/6/2024 2:31 PM, maddox--- via cctalk wrote: On 01.08.2024 16:28, Royce Taft via cctalk wrote: Wasn’t Vista “Mojave”? As others noted, "Mojave" was the name of a MacOS release.  There was, however, an ad campaign that Microsoft ran in an attempt to counter the bad press that Windows V

[cctalk] Re: Estate Planning was: Re: Auction houses vs ebay

On 7/18/2024 8:56 AM, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote: Why not arrange for a reseller or auction house to buy it wholesale, rather than having it all destroyed? It’s rare stuff that someone else could enjoy, and it doesn’t have to be sold piecemeal or involve her dealing with any of t

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

On 7/14/2024 7:14 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: Trying to compare a billionaire’s estate collection with people like us is futile. Most of us collectors will die and our collection wont be of interest to the IRS because it won’t amount to much. Pauls collection, on the other hand, will be o

[cctalk] Re: LCM auction pre-notice

On 7/14/2024 12:27 PM, cz via cctalk wrote: Thanks for the notice. Not that any of us will be high bidders but good to at least follow along with the community that cares. I'd be happy if a rich person bought the stuff, at least it would not be scrapped. What makes you think that? Some

[cctalk] Re: what to do with our "treasures"

On 6/27/2024 11:46 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: On 06/27/2024 9:36 AM CDT Bill Gunshannon via cctalk To date, I have sold nothing. I once went back to the list that suggested I use ebay to report my failure only to be greeted with, "Well, what did you expect. You are not an established s

[cctalk] Re: Revocable Living Trust for Computer Collectors

On 6/27/2024 1:29 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:17 PM Doc Shipley via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Much, much more important than the money, though, is the impact leaving a large collection would have on my descendants. News Flash: THESE TREASURES

[cctalk] Re: Revocable Living Trust for Computer Collectors

On 6/26/2024 9:47 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: Everyone have their collections appraised and see what their worth. Might be eye-opening. You are right. Especially when the number comes in around $0.00. I have attempted to sell off parts of my collection at various times when situations

[cctalk] Re: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)

On 6/5/2024 9:33 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 9:03 AM Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: On 06/05/2024 7:17 AM CDT Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: It isn't personal if an ordinary person can't afford it. That isn't _the people_. The People means hoi polloi. It

[cctalk] Re: Experience using an Altair 8800 ("Personal computer" from 70s)

On 5/28/2024 2:28 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 5/28/24 10:00, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote: Au crontraire, I belive the first mobile phones were mostly purchased by corporations for their executives to use, if the executive left, the phone stayed with the corporation.  Early mobile pho

[cctalk] Re: Help? Programming SCM90448 EPROMs

On 5/28/2024 9:01 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote: On 2024-05-28 08:46, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: I would love to have copies of the image HEX files so I could get some of mine running again. What do you have, an 11/23+ or BDV? I have both available. But mostly I would like to find

[cctalk] Re: terminology [was: First Personal Computer]

On 5/26/2024 2:11 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: how many people here still use the 16Kb (favorite machine) with tape IO? I can, and have recently. TRS-80 Model I. In order to do some stuff with Tiny Pascal. But not so much any more as the machine also has 48K available if I hook up the EI

[cctalk] Re: terminology [was: First Personal Computer]

On 5/26/2024 2:50 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: I think the most important thing for a Personal Computer, is the average Joe, can afford and use it. The second thing is to have ample memory and IO to run useful programs. The  basic Apple I,II does not count as many others as it had BASIC in ROM

[cctalk] Re: First Personal Computer

On 5/25/2024 12:09 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 5/25/24 08:14, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Yes, the Bendix G-15 was said to be the first personal computer. It was as big as a refrigerator, and weighed a LOT more, and drew much more power.  (300 vacuum tubes, 3000 Germanium diodes,  d

[cctalk] Re: Help? Programming SCM90448 EPROMs

On 5/27/2024 5:47 AM, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: On 2024-05-26 12:30, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 4:26 AM Glen Slick wrote: Anyway, if the SCM90448 EPROMs for your M8189 KDF11-B are actually Motorola MC68764 / MC68766 EPROMs, I have one board with MCM68

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

On 5/19/2024 11:14 AM, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote: A friend of a friend had a birthday gathering. Everyone there was in their thirties, except for myself, my wife, and our friend. Anyway, I met a Google engineer, a Microsoft data scientist, an Amazon AWS recruiter (I think she was a recru

[cctalk] ANSI-M (Mumps) and the VA

With the VA dropping Vista what happens to that army of Mumps programmers they had? Can't see much call for them in the IT world today. Seems like a worse fate than COBOL Programmers. bill

[cctalk] Re: APL (Was: BASIC

On 5/8/2024 10:30 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On May 8, 2024, at 10:25 AM, Harald Arnesen via cctalk wrote: Paul Koning via cctalk [07/05/2024 19.31]: (Then again, I had a classmate who was taking a double major: math and music composition...) Mathemathics and music is not a r

[cctalk] Re: Double Density 3.5" Floppy Disks

On 5/6/2024 2:28 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > You do need a very strong magnet. I’ve put 3.5 floppies on top of > a mag tape demagnitizer ( not technically called that, but you know > what i mean) and it had no effect at all. I could still read them fine > in my pc. I surmised that the magnetic

[cctalk] Re: BASIC

On 5/3/2024 10:13 AM, KenUnix via cctalk wrote: Steve, Where would you fit the Tandy Model 100 in here? Ultimately it supported a disk drive, ran basic and also sported an expansion box that included video support and a floppy. Ultimately, so did the TRS-80. At least Model I, III and 4. a

[cctalk] Re: MS-DOS source code

On 5/2/2024 9:27 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2024, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: Some may find this interesting.  Microsoft has released the source for MS-DOS versions 1.25, 2, and 4. https://github.com/microsoft/MS-DOS I think the most interesting thing about this is that

[cctalk] Re: APL (Was: BASIC

On 5/1/2024 8:04 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 5/1/24 16:51, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: APL was incredible.  I was amazed.  I was immediately able to do a few simple things that were useful for my boss and myself, and writing simple programs within hours.  Its matrix arithmetic was

[cctalk] Re: APL (Was: BASIC

On 5/1/2024 7:51 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: What would our world be like if the first home computers were to have had APL, instead of BASIC? Maybe not instead of BASIC but I had APL on my TRS-80. bill

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 50th birthday...

On 4/27/2024 7:43 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: Magazine cover january, and into 1975 the revolution. So I'd say all year. Not one specific date I had that magazine. Wish I hadn't thrown it away oh so many years ago. But even at that, nothing for me to celebrate. I couldn't afford o

[cctalk] Re: Z80 vs other microprocessors of the time.

On 4/23/2024 8:06 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Did the Dimension 68000 (a multi-processor machine) have Z80 and 6502? What about the Tandy 16 and 6000. M68K and Z80. bill

[cctalk] Re: Z80 vs other microprocessors of the time.

On 4/22/2024 2:30 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Apr 22, 2024, at 2:09 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Following along this line of thought but also in regards all our other small CPUs Would it not be possible to use something like a Blue Pill to make a small board (small enough

[cctalk] Re: Z80 vs other microprocessors of the time.

Following along this line of thought but also in regards all our other small CPUs Would it not be possible to use something like a Blue Pill to make a small board (small enough to actually fit in the CPU socket) that emulated these old CPUs? Definitely enough horse power just wondered if

[cctalk] Re: Drum memory on pdp11's? Wikipedia thinks so....

A README in the root of 2.11 says: The following manual pages are NOT in 2.10BSD but ARE in 4.3BSD: and one of them is drum.4 so, I guess we need to look at a 4.3BSD system to find out what drum they are talking about. I have a feeling this is a device that works on the VAX but is actually

[cctalk] Re: Drum memory on pdp11's? Wikipedia thinks so....

On 4/15/2024 9:45 AM, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote: Well, I can submit a correction, but does anyone remember /dev/drum? I don't recall that in V6m or V7 Unix, I guess I could fire one of them up and see There's at least references to /dev/drum in 2.11BSD, I forget if it was in the

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

One last shot. I have an RX Floppy disk unit. Worked fine until one time the last time I had it hooked up and after about an hour it just stopped responding. All I get now is the well known click-click on init and then nothing. I am sure it is repairable either by troubleshooting or just bu

[cctalk] Re: Turbo Pascal Kermit for CP/M

On 4/10/2024 6:54 AM, Martin.Hepperle--- via cctalk wrote: Did you compile in memory or to disk? If you have little RAM, it might be advantageous to compile to disk, creating a .COM file. And the winner is It's been so long since I used Turbo anything I had forgotten that option. It

[cctalk] Re: Turbo Pascal Kermit for CP/M

On 4/8/2024 5:00 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2024, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: I'm having  bit of fun with my various CP/M systems but I ran into what I see as an interesting problem.  I got Turbo Pascal on two systems.  A TRS-80 model 4P running Montezuma Micro CP/M and

[cctalk] Re: Turbo Pascal Kermit for CP/M

On 4/8/2024 5:17 PM, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 2:19 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: I'm having bit of fun with my various CP/M systems but I ran into what I see as an interesting problem. I got Turbo Pascal on two systems. If it's an old ver

[cctalk] Turbo Pascal Kermit for CP/M

I'm having bit of fun with my various CP/M systems but I ran into what I see as an interesting problem. I got Turbo Pascal on two systems. A TRS-80 model 4P running Montezuma Micro CP/M and a TRS-80 Model II running Pickles & Trout CP/M. I tried to compile the version of Kermit written fo

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 4/4/2024 3:49 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 10:20 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Not really sure I want to get rid of them yet, but what do Apple II's go for nowadays? I have an Apple II with 2 Disk II's and

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 4/4/2024 2:39 PM, Zane Healy wrote: On Apr 4, 2024, at 8:05 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:  7 - 230M Carts  (one labeled RSTS V10) Is the RSTS/E disk something that needs to be preserved? Not by me. And I created it. Not sure if it was from an 11/44, 11/73 or 11/23 but

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

Not really sure I want to get rid of them yet, but what do Apple II's go for nowadays? I have an Apple II with 2 Disk II's and a language card. I also have an Apple IIe with three external disk cards and 2 3.5" drives and 3 5.25" drives. It also has a Microsoft Soft Card for running CP/M.

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 4/4/2024 11:05 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: One more list before I give up. Anybody interested in Iomega drive? I have:     2 - 90 Pro     2 - 150 Multidisk and somewhere here I have a 230M but I haven't come across it yet. To go along with them I have:

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 4/4/2024 11:36 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 4/4/24 08:05, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: One more list before I give up. Anybody interested in Iomega drive? I have:     2 - 90 Pro     2 - 150 Multidisk and somewhere here I have a 230M but I haven't come acro

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

One more list before I give up. Anybody interested in Iomega drive? I have: 2 - 90 Pro 2 - 150 Multidisk and somewhere here I have a 230M but I haven't come across it yet. To go along with them I have: 4 - 90M Carts 3 - 150M Carts (one labeled Windows NT)

[cctalk] Re: EMP was: oscilloscopes

On 4/2/2024 1:47 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Absolutely, by all means go right ahead. As you pointed out, the NEC absolutely requires bonding all ground rods. And Roger Block spells out in quite some detail why this is important in his books. Come to think of it, apart from bonding e

[cctalk] Re: EMP was: oscilloscopes

On 4/2/2024 11:01 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 4/2/24 00:03, Just Kant via cctalk wrote: Accordimg to certain individuals on this list, going back a few years, electronics/computers can be damaged due to an electrical storm, presumably very intense activity, even while off. Go look thr

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

On 4/1/2024 7:12 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: And still works! Built to withstand an atomic bombardment. Except for the EMP. It'll theoretically render such devices nice looking, well-built scrap. The old completely vacuum-tube-based, discrete component oscilloscope from back in th

[cctalk] Re: oscilloscopes

On 4/1/2024 6:56 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 1 Apr 2024, Just Kant via cctalk wrote: I have more then I need. All the working ones are HP w/color crts, and as far as older, verifiably vintage tools (right down to the 680x0 processor in either) I have to admit I favor them as a b

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

On 3/28/2024 7:29 PM, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 05:02:10PM +, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk wrote: Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist licenses for vms ?? Not for OpenVMS/VAX, that stopped more than a year ago. IIRC you

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

On 3/28/2024 3:08 PM, Doug McIntyre via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 01:47:03PM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 3/28/2024 1:25 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Mar 28, 2024, at 1:02 PM, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk wrote: Sorry if I intrude... now is no more

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

On 3/28/2024 1:25 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Mar 28, 2024, at 1:02 PM, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk wrote: Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist licenses for vms ?? You can still get one for OpenVMS/x86. As of the past few days, that may not b

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

On 3/28/2024 12:47 PM, Warner Losh wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 5:37 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: I know this is a real long shot but is there any chance someone has a copy of the original distribution of the Amoeba OS from

[cctalk] Amoeba OS

I know this is a real long shot but is there any chance someone has a copy of the original distribution of the Amoeba OS from the University in the Netherlands? Searching the web finds only the current version which runs on X86. I am looking for the original which also ran on Sparc and (of the

[cctalk] Cleanup time again

On 3/26/2024 9:15 AM, Paul Koning wrote: On Mar 26, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 3/25/2024 9:51 PM, Henry Bent wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 20:14, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: Oops. I guess the fingers work a

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 3/25/2024 9:51 PM, Henry Bent wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 20:14, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: Oops.  I guess the fingers work as good as the memory.  Sorry about that.  I've got about 20 of them.  I know they haven't been

[cctalk] Plessey 703185-100C

So, sorting thru stuff I came across this white elephant again. I never found anything to positively identify it but I always assumed it was some kind of buss extender. One board is fully populated with chips and the other connected together with a ribbon cable is totally passive. But this ti

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 3/25/2024 6:19 PM, Henry Bent via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 18:05, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: Is there a manufacturer's equivalent number for an RX-1DB? I believe that Bill was referring to the RZ1DB, which is a 9.1GB Quantum Atlas II. Oops. I guess the fingers work as

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 3/25/2024 1:49 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: In case it piques someone's interest, a number of the used disks in the SB style carriers are 9GB RX1DB's .  Even I had forgotten that any of them were that big.  Of course, the probably eliminates their use on a PDP or VA

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

In case it piques someone's interest, a number of the used disks in the SB style carriers are 9GB RX1DB's . Even I had forgotten that any of them were that big. Of course, the probably eliminates their use on a PDP or VAX but they are still Ultra Wide SCSI if you take them out of the box. :

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 3/23/2024 11:16 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Here's something operators of older systems might find useful. Allied Telesis CentreCOM 210TS Twisted Pair Transciever    IEE 802.3 10 BASE-T (MAU) I have 14 used and another 14 still in the box, never been opened.

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

Here's something operators of older systems might find useful. Allied Telesis CentreCOM 210TS Twisted Pair Transciever IEE 802.3 10 BASE-T (MAU) I have 14 used and another 14 still in the box, never been opened. bill

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

On 3/21/2024 9:19 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: I just got a pdp-11 to boot and it seems to have rt-11 installed. How do I do an orderly shutdown? Google has info on simh but this ain't that. Thanks! 73 Eugene w2hx Turn off the power switch. Unlike most other OSes people here are familiar

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 3/21/2024 6:52 PM, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote: Why are you paying for postage as an eBay seller? Buyer paying postage is the standard. At sub $20 they aren't worth the effort. It would cost more than that in postage. And if the cost of shipping is more than the cost of the

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

On 3/21/2024 2:02 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 10:58 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Are Wacom CTE-430 tablets worth anything? bill Bill, eBay is good for gauging interest and pricing out stuff like this. Recent

[cctalk] Re: Cleanup time again

Are Wacom CTE-430 tablets worth anything? bill

[cctalk] Cleanup time again

Time to dispose of some more of my stuff so it doesn't end up in the trash when my widow has to clear the house. Any interest in BA356-SBs? All with disks in them. And I have a decent stack of used RZs in caddies. I even still have 11 RZ28's still in the static bags. Would have to be someo

[cctalk] DEC Processor Books

I have often wondered about the people we find in the various DEC Processor (and other) books. Were they models in staged photo-sessions or were these candid shots from DEC facilities and if so, can anyone identify who they might be. Looking thru some of the books again I came across an intere

[cctalk] Re: 5 1/4" and 3.5" disk duplication machines

On 3/10/2024 1:13 AM, Travis Pierce via cctalk wrote: I definitely do. I rebuilt a Trace ST8000 last year and got it up and running. I also built a 5.25" duplicator with 12 drives a few months back. I'd love to find a commercial 5.25" duplicator. Travis On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 2:55 PM B

[cctalk] Another blast from the past...

So, here I was binge watching a scifi series called "Night Sky", which sadly was not renewed, but I digress... In one of the episodes two of the characters go to see a man who apparently is a monitor for something having to do with the devices that teleport people all over not only earth but

[cctalk] Re: RD54 Maxtor XT-2190 w/one long meep

Back in the day when these disks were common I used to elicit a good laugh from my boss when I got out my little mallet and smacked the side of the drive. Stiction was the problem but a good hammer fixes anything. And, no, I never had it damage a disk. I guess it was all in the technique. :

[cctalk] VCF SoCal Saturday

On 2/9/2024 5:08 AM, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: There's a good chance I'll make it to the upcoming VCF SoCal coming up on Sat. the 17th. Some things I'm looking for: - recently an associate of mine gifted me their original 1978 TRS-80 (Model 1). But not much in accessories. I have a sui

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

On 1/31/2024 8:30 PM, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote: I suppose I should’ve specified “of the versions of BASIC I’ve ever heard anyone talk about still using this century.” :P Basic09 is probably still in use on OS9000. VAX BASIC is still in use on VMS ALPHA and Itanium and is abo

[cctalk] Re: VCF SoCal

On 1/31/2024 1:14 PM, mark audacity romberg via cctalk wrote: BBC BASIC is the best BASIC there ever was, and I feel sad for those who have never used it to see how powerful BASIC can be with proper structured programming. It’s honestly like a different language. Basic09? VAX BASIC? RST

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

On 1/15/2024 10:47 AM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: On Sunday (01/14/2024 at 09:55PM -0600), Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: There are a number of WWVB simulator projects out there that will transmit a weak but usable signal to your clock after getting sync’d from ntp or GPS NMEA time

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

Will Cooke and Jonathon Chapman explained it. A change to the protocol that old clocks don't know about. bill

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

On 1/14/2024 2:54 PM, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote: Bill, If it's an older clock it's probably tripping over a timecode transmission format/modulation change. I forget the exact details but changes were required to my old 8085-based Spectracom receiver. Thanks, that's probably it.

[cctalk] WWVB

This is kind computer related but maybe more ham radio related but I figure if anywhere, here is the place to find an answer. I have a SkyScan ATOMIC CLOCK. It is supposed to get its time from WWVB. The antenna icon that is supposed to mean it is receiving WWVB is on. Your probably wondering w

[cctalk] RSTS/E questions.

I am back to playing with RSTS/E 10.1 again and have a couple questions if there is still anyone around with experience. First: Is there a way to change the allowed length for passwords? Second: Is there a way to make login take the assigned name rather than the x,x format for logins? I se

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

On 11/17/2023 8:52 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: Hi Bob, I can't help with your search for 8/e front panels, but you mentioned "green switch boards". I have a nicely restored DEC LAB-8/e with green switch toggles. Do you have spare green switch toggles? I would love to have one dark green a

[cctalk] Tandy Model 6000 w/XENIX

Is there anywhere I could go where people who are playing with this system hang out? I used to have a couple of very early Model 16's and ran Xenix on them. I also worked with a couple of 6000's in a real production environment. Lately I got interested again and found an emulator that does a

[cctalk] Re: PDP11 and Ultrix 11

On 10/18/2023 10:00 AM, Henry Bent via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 at 09:56, hupfadekroua via cctalk wrote: Hello all, does someone have a SCSI disc image of Ultrix 11 for a QBus based (11/73) PDP11. Ultrix-11 doesn't support SCSI disks, as far as I am aware. What hardware are yo

[cctalk] Re: GEAC

Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Here's a question for all our Computer Museum curators. Have any of the old GEAC Library systems ever been salvaged and put into a museum? They were curious boxes and I think would make a nice addition to a collection. Yes, we had

[cctalk] GEAC

Here's a question for all our Computer Museum curators. Have any of the old GEAC Library systems ever been salvaged and put into a museum?  They were curious boxes and I think would make a nice addition to a collection. bill

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