Virtual museums as well, e.g.:
http://www.nostalgiccomputing.org
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:28 PM Christian Liendo via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
> in the United States and now you have multiple ones such as
> On May 20, 2024, at 3:40 PM, Adrian Godwin via cctalk
> wrote:
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> I remember the VT100 interlace setting. Yes, it changed the signal
> generated. I don't know if it also changed the characteristics of the
> monitor but I would think not.
The Pro also has such a thing in its video card. I
I remember the VT100 interlace setting. Yes, it changed the signal
generated. I don't know if it also changed the characteristics of the
monitor but I would think not.
It gave slightly higher resolution (the expectation would be double but the
tube didn't have focus that good) at the cost of a hor
> On 05/20/2024 12:06 PM CDT CAREY SCHUG via cctalk
> wrote:
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>
> so, just curious. how do digital TVs (and monitors) work? I presume the dots
> are a rectangle, not sloping down to the right, no half a line at the top and
> bottom. Do they just assume the brain can't tell that (for the co
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 12:06:13PM -0500, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> so, just curious. how do digital TVs (and monitors) work? I presume the
> dots are a rectangle, not sloping down to the right, no half a line at the
> top and bottom. Do they just assume the brain can't tell that (for t
Is it perhaps OBD--On-Board Diagnostics?
Sellam
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 11:06 AM Wayne S via cctalk
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> The setup on the earlier monitors was sometimes call “ODB” , don‘t know
> why. Was equivalent to setup.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 20, 2024, at 11:02, Wayne S wrote:
> >
> >
On 2024-05-20 12:16 p.m., Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
On 05/20/2024 1:02 PM CDT Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
In the vt100, setup menu “B” had an interlace on or off setting.
I just looked it up.
That is almost certainly setting what type of signal is generated. Like a TV
of the same era,
> On 05/20/2024 1:02 PM CDT Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
>
>
> In the vt100, setup menu “B” had an interlace on or off setting.
> I just looked it up.
>
>
That is almost certainly setting what type of signal is generated. Like a TV
of the same era, the monitor (display) portion doesn't care;
The setup on the earlier monitors was sometimes call “ODB” , don‘t know why.
Was equivalent to setup.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 20, 2024, at 11:02, Wayne S wrote:
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> In the vt100, setup menu “B” had an interlace on or off setting.
> I just looked it up.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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In the vt100, setup menu “B” had an interlace on or off setting.
I just looked it up.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 20, 2024, at 10:51, Paul Koning via cctalk
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>> On May 20, 2024, at 1:37 PM, Wayne S via cctalk
>> wrote:
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>> Young , hah. No i’m old 70.
>> The pc monitors,
> On May 20, 2024, at 1:37 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
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> Young , hah. No i’m old 70.
> The pc monitors, not Tv, always had a setup menu. Even the Vt100 series let
> you choose interlace if you needed.
VT100? I don't think so. And yes, it has a setup menu, but that's setup of
the term
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 11:13:38AM -0500, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote:
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> many games and entry pcs with old style tv analog format, don't interlace,
> and tube TVs nearly all (except maybe a few late model high end ones?) are
> fine with that, but I seem to recall that most or all digital/fla
Kennet Classic is still important in getting history out to the public.
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:25 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
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> Lol!I don't care, our little non profit is but a wee dot on the map
> compared with the well-funded giants.
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2024, 1:12 PM Christian Lie
On 5/20/24 10:25, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
>>> American Computer Museum
>>> Computer History Museum
>>> Computer Museum of America
>>> Large Scale Systems Museum
>>> Rhode Island Computer Museum
>>> System Source Computer Museum
Of course, there's the Living Computer Museum--oh, wait
-C
Young , hah. No i’m old 70.
The pc monitors, not Tv, always had a setup menu. Even the Vt100 series let you
choose interlace if you needed.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 20, 2024, at 10:06, CAREY SCHUG wrote:
>
> Wayne, you must be one of those thirty-something techies from another thread.
>
Lol!I don't care, our little non profit is but a wee dot on the map
compared with the well-funded giants.
On Mon, May 20, 2024, 1:12 PM Christian Liendo via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Sorry I forgot to add Kennet Classic. I failed, my mistake.
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:11 PM
Sorry I forgot to add Kennet Classic. I failed, my mistake.
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:11 PM Christian Liendo wrote:
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> I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
> in the United States and now you have multiple ones such as but not
> limited to:
>
> American Computer M
I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
in the United States and now you have multiple ones such as but not
limited to:
American Computer Museum
Computer History Museum
Computer Museum of America
Large Scale Systems Museum
Rhode Island Computer Museum
System Source Co
Wayne, you must be one of those thirty-something techies from another thread.
for those of us in our 60s and 70s,
setup mode? huh? old TVs and monitors were purely analog. No on-screen
displays and non-volatile memory bytes for setup. adjustments for size and
position were rheostats. i
IIRC, didn’t most older pc monitors have a setup mode where one of the options
was interlace or non-interlace.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 20, 2024, at 09:35, Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
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> I think you have that backwards.
>
> TVs use interlace. Older PC displays may do so, or not;
I think you have that backwards.
TVs use interlace. Older PC displays may do so, or not; typically the 480 line
format was not interlaced but there might be high resolution modes that were.
The reason was to deal with bandwidth limitations.
Flat panel displays normally support a pile of input
This may have been covered before, VERY early in this tread.
I think I tried a game on a flatscreen, and had issues. I don't know if it
applies to the radio shack Color Computer, the interest of the original poster.
many games and entry pcs with old style tv analog format, don't interlace, and
On Sunday, May 19th, 2024 at 13:31, ben via cctalk
wrote:
> My mind is fine, it the eyes that are going.
> Screens are getting bigger and text is getting smaller.
> I must be dreaming that.
HiDPI flatpanel displays definitely don't help with this. :/
The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
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> On May 20, 2024, at 9:33 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk
> wrote:
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>
> Den 2024-05-20 kl. 15:26 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk:
>>
>> ...
>> I just flipped through it briefly, and spotted what was the Electrologica
>> headquarters (page 143). And a few pages later there is a bit of history
Den 2024-05-20 kl. 15:26 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk:
On May 20, 2024, at 6:08 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk
wrote:
...
I used to work on the P6000 series, and they had a very interesting
architecture. For those who want to know a bit more about Philips' history, I
can recommend an e-book
> On May 20, 2024, at 6:08 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> I used to work on the P6000 series, and they had a very interesting
> architecture. For those who want to know a bit more about Philips' history, I
> can recommend an e-book written by one of the guys in Sweden, where
Den 2024-05-20 kl. 10:56 skrev Tony Duell via cctalk:
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 4:56 PM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
wrote:
Thank you, Josh. How did your passion start with classical computers? Maybe
this helps in understanding the generation?
I know how I got started, but not really why. Although
I've also had TVs with modular RF inputs. One was a huge plasma wall TV and
the other a tiny cheap caravan TV but both had locations for an RF input
card which I assumed could be replaced by cards to suit local national TV
standards. These have no visible controls and, like the PC TV cards,
probabl
At one time I had a few Bt848 based PCI TV tuner cards for a PC - Hauppage
was a big player but there were others. Some were composite video in, some
also had a TV tuner section.
I tried one as a video converter for PAL composite out from some home micro
- possibly a Jupiter Ace. It wasn't that g
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 4:56 PM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Thank you, Josh. How did your passion start with classical computers? Maybe
> this helps in understanding the generation?
I know how I got started, but not really why. Although I can explain
how it progressed.
It was May 1986, I
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 1:08 PM Will Cooke via cctalk
wrote:
> Does anyone know of a small TV tuner that tunes old analog TV channels (US
> NTSC) and outputs composite or VGA or HDMI signals? I've looked around a bit
> but haven't found anything. It's relatively easy to build one, but I would
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