[cctalk] Re: Need a 1.2mb 5.25 floppy

2023-02-26 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/26/23 16:42, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > Oi. > > So after finally getting things going I started copying the Pro/380 OS > files to a bunch of 1.2mb floppies. Great. However after a bit I started > getting errors, and found that the disks were getting gouges in the > tracks. Sure enough dis

[cctalk] Need a 1.2mb 5.25 floppy

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Oi. So after finally getting things going I started copying the Pro/380 OS files to a bunch of 1.2mb floppies. Great. However after a bit I started getting errors, and found that the disks were getting gouges in the tracks. Sure enough disassembly of my 1.2mb Teac showed that debris had becom

[cctalk] PDP-8/A FPP8/A

2023-02-26 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
Don White designed the FPP8/A. From my recollection, the unit that was sold with 8/A was the second iteration of an Omnibus FPP8. I waa off in LCG working on Jupiter so I never got to see the original but I recall that the redesign to use the cycle stealing version that went to market was because

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
USB floopies are not general purpose devices. They have a fixed number of formats that work, and the rest do not. Warner On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 2:44 PM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > Your troubles with USB floppy drives reinforces my own experiences. They > seem to work okay in windows using a Mi

[cctalk] Better way to extract these TD0 images for P/OS.

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Ok, so after pouting for awhile after destroying my only Teac 1.2mb 5.25 drive (old floppies are garbage) I sat for awhile and thought about this whole issue. The goal is simple: Install P/OS 3.2 on my Pro/380 but doing 21 floppies for the base OS, another 20 or so for the Toolkit, and God know

[cctalk] Re: Serial Disk scipts

2023-02-26 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
Apparently the attachments didn't make it through the email server. Please email me directly for the two scripts. Thanks, mike     bit...@12bitsbest.com On 2/26/2023 2:36 PM, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: Attached are two bash scripts (tested on Raspberry Pi OS) for serial disk. run each

[cctalk] Re: WTB Any storage for a PDP 8/A

2023-02-26 Thread Rick Murphy via cctalk
On 2/26/2023 9:47 AM, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk wrote: On 2/26/2023 1:15 AM, jos via cctalk wrote: On 25.02.23 18:52, silvercreekvalley--- via cctalk wrote: Thanks Vince - I knew about the RX emulators but not the serial disk - that sounds interesting. Is there any documentation on that - I

[cctalk] Re: Booting from B: (Was: Getting QRST files onto

2023-02-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Which versions of DOS let you boot off B: ? CORRECTION: Although the default of DOS used to be A: then first HDD (usually C:), it is the computer firmware, not DOS that decides that. The assumption that C: is the HDD can be annoying. I used to use PCs with four floppies. If jumpered properl

[cctalk] Re: Tadpole RISC laptop RAM modules

2023-02-26 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
>> I don't think it's the connector, but it's junk if it isn't anyway, so I >> might >> see. These things screw in place and the fit was tight getting it out so it >> would boot again, so I don't think it wiggled. Still, would be nice to know a >> source for spares because it seems like others

[cctalk] Re: Tadpole RISC laptop RAM modules

2023-02-26 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
I don't think it's the connector, but it's junk if it isn't anyway, so I might see. These things screw in place and the fit was tight getting it out so it would boot again, so I don't think it wiggled. Still, would be nice to know a source for spares because it seems like others on this list have

[cctalk] Re: Tadpole RISC laptop RAM modules

2023-02-26 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
>> Well, this is the second Tadpole laptop RAM module I've had go bad on me (one >> in my PA-RISC PrecisionBook and now one in my SPARC UltraBook IIi). These are >> the maroon-red 256MB or 512MB screw-in modules marked "Huxley Only" using a >> custom friction fit connector, not regular SO-DIMMs.

[cctalk] Re: Tadpole RISC laptop RAM modules

2023-02-26 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
Well, this is the second Tadpole laptop RAM module I've had go bad on me (one in my PA-RISC PrecisionBook and now one in my SPARC UltraBook IIi). These are the maroon-red 256MB or 512MB screw-in modules marked "Huxley Only" using a custom friction fit connector, not regular SO-DIMMs. I can't find

[cctalk] Re: Tadpole RISC laptop RAM modules

2023-02-26 Thread Doc Shipley via cctalk
On 2/26/23 15:16, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: Well, this is the second Tadpole laptop RAM module I've had go bad on me (one in my PA-RISC PrecisionBook and now one in my SPARC UltraBook IIi). These are the maroon-red 256MB or 512MB screw-in modules marked "Huxley Only" using a custom frictio

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Your troubles with USB floppy drives reinforces my own experiences. They seem to work okay in windows using a Microsoft written utility but not too well in dos or user written programs. It’s hit or miss as to if the program will see the usb floppy. However, using a builtin floppy always seems to

[cctalk] Tadpole RISC laptop RAM modules

2023-02-26 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
Well, this is the second Tadpole laptop RAM module I've had go bad on me (one in my PA-RISC PrecisionBook and now one in my SPARC UltraBook IIi). These are the maroon-red 256MB or 512MB screw-in modules marked "Huxley Only" using a custom friction fit connector, not regular SO-DIMMs. I can't find a

[cctalk] Serial Disk scipts

2023-02-26 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
Attached are two bash scripts (tested on Raspberry Pi OS) for serial disk. run each script with sudo ./. If an existing os8diskserver directory is present it will be renamed and a new copy installed. getos8diskserver -- installs all of the necessary files to build the os8diskserver and the

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Hi Henry! You wanted a SETUP disk for a Deskpro/XE system, right?  Like SP1363 as listed here https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=76542 ?  I was able to do this in Dosbox-X no problem: mount the local directory with sp1363.exe

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 14:54, Henry Bent wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 17:12, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > >> So I'm working on restoring a Compaq DeskPro/XE system to allow me to >> use the 5.25 floppy to copy files from my 3.5 floppies which will come >> from my Windows 10 system so that

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 17:12, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > So I'm working on restoring a Compaq DeskPro/XE system to allow me to > use the 5.25 floppy to copy files from my 3.5 floppies which will come > from my Windows 10 system so that I can extract on the Deskpro/XE using > teledisk the .td0

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Install DOS and Format.exe on a 3.5 floppy Fire it up and when running QRST try selecting the "B" drive. That used to (on a single disk system) prompt you to switch floppies back and forth which *might* work, allowing me to write the image on a

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
QRST does run without issues on DOSBOX, the problem is it can't see the concept of the "A" drive which seems to be a mapped share as opposed to a "physical dopey DMA device". The floppy controller on PC's was always weird as hell, I do remember that. CZ On 2/25/2023 7:29 PM, Wayne S wrote: Si

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Thank you! I'd appreciate it if it comes to that, but I'll give myself a week to find a solution here. All I need is a .img file or something I can burn to floppy with dd. And I have to replace that battery on the motherboard. Looks to be welded in, we'll see CZ On 2/25/2023 7:23 PM, Wa

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Linux would be fine, however there doesn't seem to be a DOS emulator that emulates the ISA bus A: drive. I suppose Linux on a PC with that hardware might work, however the hardware in question is stuck at the "need to configure" which does require a DOS disk which can only be extracted by QRST

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Win 10 comes with cmd so do you need to use dosbox? Windows 10 does not have a 16 bit subsystem anymore. Doesn't work. As for creating a DOS bootable disk, I think the problem is that the low level disk access QRST wants is not availible on a USB floppy drive. So you need a "real" floppy and

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 25, 2023, at 5:11 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > So I'm working on restoring a Compaq DeskPro/XE system to allow me to use the > 5.25 floppy to copy files from my 3.5 floppies which will come from my > Windows 10 system so that I can extract on the Deskpro/XE using teledisk

[cctalk] Re: WTB Any storage for a PDP 8/A

2023-02-26 Thread Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk
On 2/26/2023 1:15 AM, jos via cctalk wrote: On 25.02.23 18:52, silvercreekvalley--- via cctalk wrote: Thanks Vince - I knew about the RX emulators but not the serial disk - that sounds interesting. Is there any documentation on that - I had a look at the GitHub but seemed a bit sparse. I can

[cctalk] Re: WTB Any storage for a PDP 8/A

2023-02-26 Thread jos via cctalk
On 25.02.23 18:52, silvercreekvalley--- via cctalk wrote: Thanks Vince - I knew about the RX emulators but not the serial disk - that sounds interesting. Is there any documentation on that - I had a look at the GitHub but seemed a bit sparse. I can imagine the FFP8/A is hard to find and replic

[cctalk] Re: WTB Any storage for a PDP 8/A

2023-02-26 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Thank you very much Vince. On Sun, 26 Feb 2023, 3:48 pm Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk, < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 2/25/2023 10:46 PM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > Hi Vince, > > > > Could you please point us to the Makefile which "actually converts a disk > > image" using SIMH to "au