On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, Tom Gardner wrote:
Fred:
Please quote the current version of the oral history,
It says:
Porter: Jimmy said that you guys got together with the guys at Wang in a
dark bar one night and, after a
discussion, you decided on the size of what the smaller diskette should be
and ther
Fred:
Please quote the current version of the oral history,
It says:
Porter: Jimmy said that you guys got together with the guys at Wang in a
dark bar one night and, after a
discussion, you decided on the size of what the smaller diskette should be
and there was a cocktail napkin
on the b
I always thought it was interesting how 5 1/4 is 3U (rack units). I thought
there might have been some relationship to that. But could have been just
coincidence.
73 Eugene W2HX
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From: Tom
Updated information:
I have the Pi Console up and running a getty shell on the VT-220 (as
9600 baud).
I start the Oscars OpenVG client with *./sw2 localhost
*I have this same issue whether I am using an ssh shell or the VT-220 shell.
**
The spacewars game comes up on the HDMI display and
I am trying to run spacewar (IF-4) on my PiDP-8/I with the video running
on the PI HDMI monitor and the keyboard being my VT-220 attached via USB
to RS-232 adapter.
I am able run OS/8 on the VT-220.
I am able to run spacewar running with the remote VC8E program on my
Windows box (port )
Sorry, there was no U consideration in the FH 5¼-inch form factor
decision. It is 5.75 in × 3.25 in × 8 in; none of these have integer "U"
relationships.
SA engineering studied the various 8-track tape drives then available and
found no standard form factor so they picked a set of numbers tha
https://www.foryourparty.com/cocktail-napkins
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Chris Elmquist
> On Aug 21, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, Ali wrote:
>> You should just do it and add a teeny tiny disclaimer at the bottom
>> regarding the veracity of the story. It would make for a
On Mon, 22 Aug 2022, W2HX wrote:
I always thought it was interesting how 5 1/4 is 3U (rack units). I
thought there might have been some relationship to that. But could have
been just coincidence.
I think that it is related.
I think that the drive (not the diskette) was apparently intended to b
>-Original Message-
>From: Fred Cisin [mailto:ci...@xenosoft.com]
>Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2022 12:31 PM
>To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>Subject: [cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a
dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]
>On Sun, 21
BTW, I first heard the story in the late 1980s? My recollection was that
it was in a sidebar in a magazine article. I can't currently find that.
Massaro's denial of it
http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/Oral_History/5.25_3.5_Floppy_Drive/5.25_and_3.5_Floppy_Panel.oral_history.20
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, Ali wrote:
You should just do it and add a teeny tiny disclaimer at the bottom
regarding the veracity of the story. It would make for a great gag gift!
Or if you want to get real fancy have a QR code that can be scanned on
each napkin for a site with more detailed discussio
RESENT FOR LEGIBILITY
>I seriously considered getting some custom
>napkins printed up (bars
>sometimes have personalized napkins; 5.25" is
>available, although these
>days, bars usually use smaller, just to keep from
>making rings on the
>tables), with just the outline of a 5.25" disk jacket
>I seriously considered getting some custom >napkins printed up (bars
>>sometimes have personalized napkins; 5.25" is >available, although these
>>days, bars usually use smaller, just to keep from >making rings on the
>>tables), with just the outline of a 5.25" disk jacket >printed on them
>>(p
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote:
The only person who ever promulgated the "Dr. Wang bar napkin" story was Jim
Porter who was not in any way involved with the decision as to the size of
the 5½ drive or media size and only began telling his tale many years after
the decision.
Both
The only person who ever promulgated the "Dr. Wang bar napkin" story was Jim
Porter who was not in any way involved with the decision as to the size of
the 5½ drive or media size and only began telling his tale many years after
the decision.
Both Massaro and Adkisson deny there was ever such a
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if the standard "litany" for
retrying read errors on floppies was due to the disc-and-follower of the
SA400, more so than the leadscrew of the Micropolis. I doubt that
there's much of a difference with the
Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if the standard "litany" for
retrying read errors on floppies was due to the disc-and-follower of the
SA400, more so than the leadscrew of the Micropolis. I doubt that
there's much of a difference with the taut-band mechs.
Anyway, the litany runs like this:
On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 01:26:44PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
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>
> Oh, I am well aware that you know far more about such things than I
> ever did, nor ever will.
> I was explaining it for the youngsters on the list, who may not have
> ever encountered such. And, who might not even b
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