Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 01:20 Joshua Rice via cctech wrote: > > Not cost effective at nearly $10,000! I understand they're very rare, > given they were only used for a few years in industry and they're > clocking on 3/4 of a century old, but even then, that seems an order of > magnitude or two off t

Re: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 1/6/22 6:04 PM, Matt Burke via cctalk wrote: Quiet regulator: http://www.9track.net/posts/h744/h744_ba11_q2e.png Noisy regulator: http://www.9track.net/posts/h744/h744_ts11_q2e.png The yellow trace is the emitter of Q2 (input of L1) and the cyan trace is the output of L1. Q2 seems to be swit

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 08:45 Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > There was also a 1K by 4 version of this tube. > I've never seen any info on a 1K*4 Selectron, but they weren't even able to make the 4K*1 work, and the only production tubes were 256*1.

Re: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Jan-06, at 4:04 PM, Matt Burke via cctalk wrote: > On 06/01/2022 12:59, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote: >> That said, it's not like replacing them with new will *hurt* -- it just >> might not fix the whine. > > I suspect that it won't fix the problem. Slightly hijacking the thread > he

RE: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread W2HX via cctalk
My 2c. I am not familiar with a "whine" but certainly a "hum." Sometimes if a power supply has seen a lot of heavy load over its lifetime, the heat generated can begin to do things to the transformer. And once that heat has done its "thing" to the transformer, it stays that way. And no replacing

Re: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 06/01/2022 12:59, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote: > That said, it's not like replacing them with new will *hurt* -- it just might > not fix the whine. I suspect that it won't fix the problem. Slightly hijacking the thread here but hopefully in a semi-helpful way. I have two of these regula

What happened to Bill Whitson?

2022-01-06 Thread Ryan Ottignon via cctalk
Bill Whitson, the original ClassicCmp ListOp, has a surprisingly little amount of information available about him online. Does anyone know what happened to him after the late 90s? (If anyone has any contact information, that would be nice!) Ryan Ottignon

Re: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
It would be a lot easier to replace the large circular regulator if you're taking the shotgun approach, and much more likely that the regulator is a source of faults. and it's cheaper. For the h744, 45, 54. BUT measuring things is the best way if you can do it. Pull the values from the backpla

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 6, 2022, at 2:11 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 1/6/22 10:17, William Donzelli wrote: >> If you include prototypes, then you need to include ALL the prototypes >> - even things made in single quantities that never worked. >> >> That is a HUGE amount of stuff that makes E

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/6/22 10:17, William Donzelli wrote: > If you include prototypes, then you need to include ALL the prototypes > - even things made in single quantities that never worked. > > That is a HUGE amount of stuff that makes EBAM look gigantic. To be fair, EBAM received a not-insignificant amount of

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Prototypes don't count. -- Will On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 12:41 PM Chuck Guzis via cctech wrote: > > > Perhaps even rarer were the EBAM tubes that CDC worked with during the > 1970s. I recall seeing a 6' rack of a complete assembly sitting in a > hallway at ADL around 1974. If CDC followed the di

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Perhaps even rarer were the EBAM tubes that CDC worked with during the 1970s. I recall seeing a 6' rack of a complete assembly sitting in a hallway at ADL around 1974. If CDC followed the dictates of management then, the unit was probably utterly demolsihed before being sold as scrap metal. --

Re: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 1/6/22 2:52 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I think I may need to replace the two output capacitors in some of my H744 regulators. These are screw terminal 6,000uF 10V parts. I have looked on Mouser, Farnell and Digikey and there don't seem to be any available, and any that are listed are re

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
There was also a 1K by 4 version of this tube. On 1/6/2022 3:03 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: On 2022-Jan-06, at 12:19 AM, Joshua Rice via cctech wrote: Not cost effective at nearly $10,000! I understand they're very rare, given they were only used for a few years in industry and they're

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 6, 2022, at 4:06 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2022-Jan-06, at 12:19 AM, Joshua Rice via cctech wrote: >> Not cost effective at nearly $10,000! I understand they're very rare, given >> they were only used for a few years in industry and they're clocking on 3/4 >> of

RE: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan > via cctalk > Sent: 06 January 2022 12:16 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: RE: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: cctalk

RE: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Chapman > Sent: 06 January 2022 13:00 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: RE: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators > > > One of the H744 regulators whines > > FWIW, none of

RE: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> >> -Original Message- >> From: cctalk On Behalf Of Christian Corti >> via cctalk >> Sent: 06 January 2022 10:02 >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >> >> Subject: Re: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators >> >> On Thu, 6 Jan 2022, r...@jarratt.me.uk wrote

RE: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
> One of the H744 regulators whines FWIW, none of mine are silent under load. If they're not being loaded (e.g. on a test bench, with no dummy load, or if you have all the boards out) they can whine excessively due to no minimum load. > it seems higher than the expected values printed on the me

RE: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Christian Corti > via cctalk > Sent: 06 January 2022 10:02 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2022, r...@jarratt.me.uk wrote: > > If I

RE: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
Rob, The voltage rating is just an absolute maximum. For PSU capacitors the other critical rating is ripple current. Lower voltages are The capacitance value won't be too critical either. At the time that was made typical electrolytic tolerances were -50/+100% So your 6,000uf could be anywhere be

Re: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Jan 2022, r...@jarratt.me.uk wrote: If I can't find 10V rated ones, then, generally up to what sort of voltage rating can I go? Of course, physical size will be a factor, but electrically can it affect operation of the regulator if the rated voltage is too high? If you need to ask thi

Re: Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 06/01/2022 08:52, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > I think I may need to replace the two output capacitors in some of my H744 > regulators. These are screw terminal 6,000uF 10V parts. I have looked on > Mouser, Farnell and Digikey and there don't seem to be any available, and > any that are liste

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Jan-06, at 12:19 AM, Joshua Rice via cctech wrote: > Not cost effective at nearly $10,000! I understand they're very rare, given > they were only used for a few years in industry and they're clocking on 3/4 > of a century old, but even then, that seems an order of magnitude or two off >

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
Not cost effective at nearly $10,000! I understand they're very rare, given they were only used for a few years in industry and they're clocking on 3/4 of a century old, but even then, that seems an order of magnitude or two off the real value. Actually, looking them up, doesn't seem they wer

Re: Memory Tech you don't see very often

2022-01-06 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2022-Jan-06, at 12:19 AM, Joshua Rice via cctech wrote: > Not cost effective at nearly $10,000! I understand they're very rare, given > they were only used for a few years in industry and they're clocking on 3/4 > of a century old, but even then, that seems an order of magnitude or two off >

Source for replacement caps in H744 regulators

2022-01-06 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I think I may need to replace the two output capacitors in some of my H744 regulators. These are screw terminal 6,000uF 10V parts. I have looked on Mouser, Farnell and Digikey and there don't seem to be any available, and any that are listed are really rather costly. Does anyone know where I mi