On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 23:31, Zane Healy via cctalk
wrote:
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> On Sep 27, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > On 2021-09-27 10:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote (in part):
> >>
> >> However, much of the "Linux" software is in fact POSIX software, and can
> >> quite easily
I remember in college we raised some money and bought 10 in kit form. It went
so well that 2 weeks later we ordered 10 more kits. We were astonished to find
the second order of 10 already assembled and tested.
Cool stuff…
George Rachor
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
Liam Proven says:
> I know that Sinclair computers were _so_ cheap that in the USA they
> were perceived as toys, not worthy of any serious consideration.
This was true in more wealthy countries outside the US, too. Sinclair never got
anywhere in Germany compared to Commodore, for example. The ZX
On 2021-09-27 3:15 p.m., Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote:
On 2021-09-27 10:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote (in part):
However, much of the "Linux" software is in fact POSIX software, and
can quite easily be ported between Linux and other *NIX-likes, such as
Solaris, macOS and the *BSD family.
On 2021-09-27 9:23 a.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
While restoring and repairing a Data General Nova 2/10 I found a bad
bipolar PROM on the CPU board. The PROM has open-collector outputs and is
organized as 32 words by 8 bits. It appears that one of the open-collector
driver transistors is fau
More like you sell the hardware, then write the software. Look at APPLE
was 68000 now the Apple/386 style cpu. Hardware has no meaning.
Never a fan of RISC or modern designs because you got speed by being
able pipeline DRAM access, not because of RISC or what ever CPU of the
day was.
Ben.
On 2021-09-27 5:38 a.m., Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote:
On 9/26/21 9:05 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
I found this interesting for perspective. The British media (and
AFAICS of Australia, New Zealand and several bits of Europe) have been
saturated with coverage of a much-loved, widely-ce
I quite agree that one OS isn’t better than another. It is one’s personal
choice. However, it would be amiss of me not to acknowledge that some
people prefer one over another and will do so until someone proves
otherwise. My dear friend and I don’t let this situation get in the way of
our relatio
On 9/27/21 3:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
This also sums up nicely what is Linux’s greatest failing.
Software vendors need “Linux”, and what they get is “Red Hat”,
“SLES”, “Ubuntu”, etc. and as a result, the users suffer.
The same can be, and was, said about Unix. IRIX, Solaris, SunOS,
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 2:39 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
> > To my knowledge the Linux kernel was released to the public 30 years ago
> > around this time. My dear friend swears by it and will never go back to
> > Windows even though WIN 11 is much more secure than previous Windows
> > versio
On Sep 27, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On 2021-09-27 10:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote (in part):
>>
>> However, much of the "Linux" software is in fact POSIX software, and can
>> quite easily be ported between Linux and other *NIX-likes, such as Solaris,
>> macOS a
From: Tom Hunter
Subject: Programming Bipolar PROMs
The part is an Intersil IM5600CP, but these were also made by others, for
example Signetics and Philips made the 82S23 and TI and NTE made the
faster
SN74S188N. Some vendors still sell these parts and there are even a few on
Ebay.
How do I
On 2021-09-27 10:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote (in part):
However, much of the "Linux" software is in fact POSIX software, and
can quite easily be ported between Linux and other *NIX-likes, such as
Solaris, macOS and the *BSD family.
I cannot agree. Many developers ensure that their soft
My girlfriend commented to me that Americans don't understand London"s
Fleet Street scene of the 70's and early 80s and how Sinclair products
were represented there. In the US the "Timex Sinclair TS-1000" was a
budget $99 computer for sale in Hallmark gift stores and its marketing
represented
While the American public were very ignorant of Sinclair's achievements,
the US home computer makers were very worried about them. In 1983 both
Commodore and Texas Instruments were working on their "ZX81 killers".
https://www.99er.net/992.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_16
-- Jecel
On 2021-09-27 15:05, Larkin Nickle via cctalk wrote:
Hello,
Is there a list of codewords for old HP-UX media anywhere? I'm
messing with HP-UX 10.20 and OnlineJFS seems to be present on the first
application CD but is locked behind a codeword, which I can't seem to
find anywhere. I have t
Hello,
Is there a list of codewords for old HP-UX media anywhere? I'm messing
with HP-UX 10.20 and OnlineJFS seems to be present on the first
application CD but is locked behind a codeword, which I can't seem to
find anywhere. I have the December '01 application disks handy but no
codewords.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 11:20 AM Brent Hilpert via cctalk
wrote:
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> The 82S23 programming algorithm is in the 1975 Signetics Bipolar Memories
> databook (also on bitsavers).
> Looks like it may be a little more complex than that for the 188.
http://www.bitsavers.org/components/signetics/_dataB
On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:03 AM, mazzinia--- via cctalk
wrote:
>
> As I think others already mentioned, there's no difference between emulators
> run under windows or linux... they are both limited by the cpu and amount of
> ram used to run them, not by the host os
The real difference is in the e
Dear List,
I am looking for older versions of MatLab (3.x, 4.x, and 5.x) for Unix
and (Open)VMS. I'm happy to pay a reasonable price for media kits, or,
alternatively, images of the installation media would suffice.
The media for Windows or Mac can be found on the various abandonware
sites, bu
>
>
>
>
> To my knowledge the Linux kernel was released to the public 30 years ago
> around this time. My dear friend swears by it and will never go back to
> Windows even though WIN 11 is much more secure than previous Windows
> versions. Prior to Linux there were other much-earlier operating syst
On 2021-Sep-27, at 10:52 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:
> On 2021-Sep-27, at 8:23 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
>> While restoring and repairing a Data General Nova 2/10 I found a bad
>> bipolar PROM on the CPU board. The PROM has open-collector outputs and is
>> organized as 32 words by 8
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:23 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk
wrote:
>
> The part is an Intersil IM5600CP, but these were also made by others, for
> example Signetics and Philips made the 82S23 and TI and NTE made the faster
> SN74S188N. Some vendors still sell these parts and there are even a few on
> Eb
On 2021-Sep-27, at 8:23 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
> While restoring and repairing a Data General Nova 2/10 I found a bad
> bipolar PROM on the CPU board. The PROM has open-collector outputs and is
> organized as 32 words by 8 bits. It appears that one of the open-collector
> driver transisto
On 9/27/21 10:05 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote:
> Most of these older fused PROMs are of comparable speed in newer
> EPROMs or E2PROMs. Open collector is a hassle but not too much. One
> can create the needed circuits using surface mount parts for size
> reduction. A hassle but not out of the questio
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 17:23, Tom Hunter via cctalk
wrote:
>
> While restoring and repairing a Data General Nova 2/10 I found a bad
> bipolar PROM on the CPU board.
Maybe it was just feeling depressed this week. Try it again next week
and you might find it works... maybe even really fast?
(Sorr
Most of these older fused PROMs are of comparable speed in newer EPROMs or
E2PROMs. Open collector is a hassle but not too much. One can create the needed
circuits using surface mount parts for size reduction.
A hassle but not out of the question. You usually have to go to a larger ROM
size so i
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 16:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk
wrote:
>
> and i'd rather prefer that this mailing list didn't fall for the same
> petty bickering that can be found across the internet.
+1 to that!
--
Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven
Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gT
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 15:55, Murray McCullough via cctalk
wrote:
>
> even though WIN 11 is much more secure than previous Windows
> versions
[[Citation needed]] ;-)
There still are more choices than people realise.
I sometimes play around with Haiku. It's getting there and is quite
usable for
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Kenneth Gober via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 11:18 AM Alan Perry via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 07:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Obviously, there's more hardware platforms that support L
I recently picked up an EPROM+ programming unit (
https://www.arlabs.com/eprom_plus.html) from eBay used in order to program
a couple of PROMs. Unfortunately, I haven't actually tried it yet but the
82S23 and others are supported. The owner of the company seems to be
extremely responsive to any and
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 11:18 AM Alan Perry via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > On Sep 27, 2021, at 07:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > Obviously, there's more hardware platforms that support Linux (like the
> RPi and other ARM boards)
>
> Doesn’t this have the relationship
Jon wrote...
I can do them with the Data I/O 29B and UniPak 2B. Some of the other UniPaks
can handle them too. They are one of those devices that most of the newer
commercial programmers can't do. I wouldn't call the Data I/O really
affordable, though.
--
Same, I use a data i/o 29B for these
I can do them with the Data I/O 29B and UniPak 2B. Some of the other UniPaks
can handle them too. They are one of those devices that most of the newer
commercial programmers can't do. I wouldn't call the Data I/O really
affordable, though.
If you want to send us a blank we can program it for yo
While restoring and repairing a Data General Nova 2/10 I found a bad
bipolar PROM on the CPU board. The PROM has open-collector outputs and is
organized as 32 words by 8 bits. It appears that one of the open-collector
driver transistors is faulty (but it could also be that a fuse has
"healed").
Th
Doesn’t this have the relationship between the OS and the hardware platform
backwards?
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 07:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Obviously, there's more hardware platforms that support Linux (like the RPi
> and other ARM boards)
As I think others already mentioned, there's no difference between emulators
run under windows or linux... they are both limited by the cpu and amount of
ram used to run them, not by the host os
-Original Message-
From: cctalk On Behalf Of Murray McCullough via
cctalk
Sent: Monday, Sep
The is also the Windows Subsystem for Linux, which basically runs Linux
under Windows.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/
On 9/27/2021 9:07 AM, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote:
Claiming one OS is better than another is always a contentious issue,
and i'd rather prefer that this maili
Claiming one OS is better than another is always a contentious issue,
and i'd rather prefer that this mailing list didn't fall for the same
petty bickering that can be found across the internet. The fact of the
matter is, when it comes to emulation on x86 IBM PC compatibles, both
Windows and
To my knowledge the Linux kernel was released to the public 30 years ago
around this time. My dear friend swears by it and will never go back to
Windows even though WIN 11 is much more secure than previous Windows
versions. Prior to Linux there were other much-earlier operating systems
for 8-bit an
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 13:38, Jules Richardson via cctalk
wrote:
>
> From the other side of that, growing up in the UK, nobody I knew talked
> about Apple or Atari, and Commodore was only on the radar because of the
> C64's capability as a games machine (and later the Amiga) - I don't think I
>
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 03:44, Bill Degnan wrote:
>
> My girlfriend commented to me that Americans don't understand London"s Fleet
> Street scene of the 70's and early 80s and how Sinclair products were
> represented there. In the US the "Timex Sinclair TS-1000" was a budget $99
> computer for
On 9/26/21 9:05 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
I found this interesting for perspective. The British media (and
AFAICS of Australia, New Zealand and several bits of Europe) have been
saturated with coverage of a much-loved, widely-celebrated and revered
hero of tech.
As FC points out, even th
Hi
Looking for a Sparcserver 1000/2000 to add to the sun collection. I’ve never
seen one of these in the UK, but hopefully there might be one around. Happy to
buy / pickup as I know they are heavy in the UK. Outside UK I might be able to
arrange for collection.
Thanks.
On 2021-09-26 7:44 p.m., Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
My girlfriend commented to me that Americans don't understand London"s
Fleet Street scene of the 70's and early 80s and how Sinclair products were
represented there. In the US the "Timex Sinclair TS-1000" was a budget $99
computer for sale i
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