Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Those who know me, for example, will know I have little interest in physical exercise. But I bought a mat intended for such activities because it was a suitable material for lininng a carrying case for a piece of photographic equipment. On Mon, 13 May 2019, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: A dec

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Those who know me, for example, will know I have little interest in physical exercise. But I bought a mat intended for such activities because it was a suitable material for lininng a carrying case for a piece of photographic equipment. A deceased friend lined some airtight camera cases with foa

Re: RS2030 MIPS workstation

2019-05-13 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/4/19 10:29 AM, Dennis Grevenstein via cctech wrote: > I have the same problem with a cloned MIPS machine, a Sumitomo > Sumistation SP300. The biggest problem with my machine is that the > NVRAM holds the ethernet address. If it goes flat, there seems to be > no way to reprogram the NVRAM.

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/13/19 9:10 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 5/13/19 10:04 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: >> Those who know me, for example, will know I have little interest in >> physical exercise. But I bought a mat intended for such activities >> because it was a suitable material for lininng a ca

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/13/19 10:04 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: On the other hand I do not object to buyng something because the _intended_ use is of no interest to me. I hoist my drink to you. If you have a use for it, great. If not, then pass. Oh, that's not the intended use? Pft. Those who know me,

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:57 AM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, 13 May 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > The last game that I recall playing with any frequency was Chess 3.0 on > > a Cyber 74. Other games over the years have held my interest for only > > a couple of hours, tops.

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/13/19 9:48 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: "RPG" today doesn't mean a computer language anymore. In the circles that I travel in, Report Program Generator is quite common. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

IBM 1620 manuals

2019-05-13 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
I just discovered a binder with 2 IBM 1620 manuals. A quick check shows bitsavers has these and newer editions of them. So, does anybody want : IBM 1620 Central Processing Unit, Model 2 (Form A26-5781-1) and IBM 1620 Monitor II System Reference Manual (Form C26-5774-0) Jon

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/13/19 7:50 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 5/13/19 5:38 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> So which term came first, "gaming adapter" or "network bridging"? > > Without a doubt, "network bridging".  But good luck going into the > average box store (or possibly even online etailers)

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/13/19 7:52 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: I had to google "gaming adapter" because I had never heard the term before, and I've been working with 802.11 since 2001 when all we had was 2mbps. Maybe it's a regional term. I've heard other people use it in multiple states here in the U.S.

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/13/19 5:38 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: So which term came first, "gaming adapter" or "network bridging"? Without a doubt, "network bridging". But good luck going into the average box store (or possibly even online etailers) and getting someone to know what a "network bridging" dev

Re: PDP-11/40 available, Arizona

2019-05-13 Thread Robert Ollerton via cctalk
where is this located? I might be able to help with moving/storage. On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 11:54 AM Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sat, 11 May 2019, ED SHATTNER wrote: > > JUST DOWN THE ROAD A FEW HOURS FROM US HERE! > > ED# > > You should go check it out.

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 5:47 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 5/13/19 3:58 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > I don't want to get into a long discussion; I merely wanted to point > > out that you're unlikely to find the term "gaming adapter" in Linux > > tech docs as they're not written f

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Malcolm via cctalk
> Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 17:41:24 -0500 > From: "Charles" > To: "cctalk digest" > Subject: Network cards and Win98SE > Message-ID: <4F49BB9C660F44B8B67371D3BAB651AA@CharlesDellLap> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I h

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 13 May 2019, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: The last game that I recall playing with any frequency was Chess 3.0 on a Cyber 74. Other games over the years have held my interest for only a couple of hours, tops. For the last 30 years, I haven't even bothered to look. Fred, how about you

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/13/19 4:21 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > "gaming adapter" is a broad category like "vacuum / hoover" or "copier / > Xerox" or "tissue / Kleenex" or "automobile".  All of which have many > names that can be used equally across many different broad categories. > > "Gaming adapters" take

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/13/19 4:05 PM, Charles via cctalk wrote: >> You could have installed a gaming adapter, opened the web page, >> connected it to the wireless and been done. > > Sure, but you assume I know anything about online gaming (I don't); it > would require purchasing one, *and* I already had the Linksys

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/13/19 5:05 PM, Charles via cctalk wrote: Sure, but you assume I know anything about online gaming (I don't); No, I do not. "gaming adapter" is a broad category like "vacuum / hoover" or "copier / Xerox" or "tissue / Kleenex" or "automobile". All of which have many names that can be use

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Charles via cctalk
You could have installed a gaming adapter, opened the web page, connected it to the wireless and been done. Sure, but you assume I know anything about online gaming (I don't); it would require purchasing one, *and* I already had the Linksys router and card, just gathering dust for years! I lik

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
I use    3  com  stuff  I  think    the other brands   I  toss in a  box in the warehouse. later   3  com  stuff auto  finds  etc  works  fine... lats a long  time! ( paint it  grey and It  will not  rust ) Ed# In a message dated 5/13/2019 3:39:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/13/19 3:58 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I don't want to get into a long discussion; I merely wanted to point out that you're unlikely to find the term "gaming adapter" in Linux tech docs as they're not written for that audience. And it's very likely that something with the Debian kern

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/13/19 3:56 PM, Charles via cctalk wrote: Thanks for the tips. The reason I’m not using Ethernet cable is because the Vintage Computer Room (where this PC resides) is on the 2nd floor around a couple of corners, and my DSL modem/router and unfiltered phone line are in the 1st floor study. W

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/13/19 11:58 AM, Grant Taylor wrote: > On May 12, 2019, at 10:17 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: >> Don't know a thing about gaming and never wanted to--wrong generation, I >> guess. > > Perhaps “gaming adapter” is the wrong term for this audience. > > Let me describe it as a type of s

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Charles via cctalk
Thanks for the tips. The reason I’m not using Ethernet cable is because the Vintage Computer Room (where this PC resides) is on the 2nd floor around a couple of corners, and my DSL modem/router and unfiltered phone line are in the 1st floor study. Would take a long run and some drilling, or duct

KCC on TOPS-20 linking question

2019-05-13 Thread Adam Thornton via cctalk
So, I've been porting Frotz to TOPS-20. https://github.com/athornton/tops20-frotz It's been going fine, except that I have something going on with the linker I don't have enough expertise to understand. On Mark Crispin's panda distribution, "cc -o frotz *.c" does the trick. But on TOPS-20 on the

Re: TMSCP docs?

2019-05-13 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/13/19 9:47 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > Thanks! I'd completely missed that directory on Bitsavers (thrown off by > "dsa" I guess) and nothing turned up in my various searches. I had hoped to find more on the HSC-x0 controllers but tech details haven't surfaced.

Re: TMSCP docs?

2019-05-13 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 12:52 AM Matt Burke via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 13/05/2019 00:05, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > > I've been working on an MSCP controller implemented on top of Joerg > Hoppe's > > Unibone and that's been going fairly well, modulo a few oddities here an

Re: How were 32-bit minis built in the 70s/80?

2019-05-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 13, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 8:20 AM Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > ... >> On the subject of custom chips: DEC used gate arrays a lot. For example >> there is the Pro 380 in which much of the discrete chip logic from the Pro >> 350 has

Re: How were 32-bit minis built in the 70s/80?

2019-05-13 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> Prime used 74181 chips for some of their CPUs. I have a 150 CPU > board (1980, though it was likely a relatively minor rehash of an > older board), for example. To extend this comment, I found 74S181 chips in the schematics for Prime's first machines, the P100/P200/P300, with dates of 1972-7

Re: How were 32-bit minis built in the 70s/80?

2019-05-13 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 8:20 AM Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > There were also the AMD2901, 2903, 29203 family of bit-slice components, > > with the 2910 sequencer. > > The VAX 730 was built with 2901s. Yep. I pulled some 2901s from a VAX 11/730 CPU board in the early 90s to repair a Tempest

Re: Pleas ID this IBM system....

2019-05-13 Thread Ed C. via cctalk
Anybody knows what happened with the German IBM 360? Was it ever picked up? Will photos or details about the lot ever surface? Regards. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:47 PM Lawrence Wilkinson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 16/04/2019 22:22, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > > Clea

Re: How were 32-bit minis built in the 70s/80?

2019-05-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 11, 2019, at 11:26 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk > wrote: > > On 05/11/2019 06:14 PM, Warren Toomey via cctalk wrote: >> I'm building my own 8-bit CPU from TTL chips, and this caused me to think: >> how were 32-bit minis built in the late 70s and early 80s? In particular, >> how was the A

RE: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Liam Proven via > cctalk > Sent: 13 May 2019 12:18 > To: John Many Jars ; General Discussion: > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Network cards and Win98SE > > On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 12:02, John Many Jars via cctalk > wrote: > >

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 12:02, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote: > > I just run PUTR under DosBox on a modern PC. A pain but... easier. Can that read/write physical media? -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.co

Re: Network cards and Win98SE

2019-05-13 Thread John Many Jars via cctalk
I just run PUTR under DosBox on a modern PC. A pain but... easier. On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 23:41, Charles via cctalk wrote: > I have tried for two days to get wireless networking running on my old PC > under Win 98SE, so I can use PUTR without a separate partition or boot. XP > is on an 8.4 GB d

Re: TMSCP docs?

2019-05-13 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 13/05/2019 08:51, Matt Burke via cctalk wrote: The protocol specification for MSCP and TMSCP is available here: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/dsa/mscp/ You might also want to look at the implementation of MSCP and TMSCP in Simh: https://github.com/simh/simh/blob/master/PDP11/pdp11_rq.c

Re: TMSCP docs?

2019-05-13 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 13/05/2019 00:05, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > I've been working on an MSCP controller implemented on top of Joerg Hoppe's > Unibone and that's been going fairly well, modulo a few oddities here and > there (if you have a Unibone and want to beta-test it, it's up at > https://github.com/livin