Re: OT - Starting IT Training

2018-01-05 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
dude go after ur cicsco way better pay On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 12:06 AM, Kip Koon - The Computer Doc via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi My Friends, > > Just a quick message to let everybody know that I am starting IT Training > Monday, January 8, 2018 to get the certifications I need.

OT - Starting IT Training

2018-01-05 Thread Kip Koon - The Computer Doc via cctalk
Hi My Friends, Just a quick message to let everybody know that I am starting IT Training Monday, January 8, 2018 to get the certifications I need. When finished I plan to have my A+, N+ and S+ certifications. For those unfamiliar with these certifications, this is paper work proving I have the k

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread James B DiGriz via cctalk
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:18:53 -0800 Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: Of course, update your OS as soon as updates are available, > as patches (which will likely slow your system down) are forthcoming > from Microsoft and various Linux trees. > You want to test those updates before you apply them

Re: non-PC Floppy imaging

2018-01-05 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 01/05/2018 01:52 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: Hi, I now have a number of uCode diskettes for my IBM 4331. I would somehow like to image them so: a) I have backups in case the floppies themselves go bad b) be able to investigate their contents in case I have to “merge” the contents o

Re: non-PC Floppy imaging

2018-01-05 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 01/05/2018 02:45 PM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > > IBM invented the 8" floppy disk format. Generally their disks follow the > standard 3740 format. I would try that first. > > https://ub.fnwi.uva.nl/computermuseum/diskettes.html > I've got a pretty good pile of IBM 8" disks,from System/3

Re: R: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 01/05/2018 02:37 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > I don't know how long YOU expect to live, but I don't think that I will > last as long as a lot of my data (which FEW if ANY will want)   (But, > I've asked my lawyer to place in my will, provisions for my collection > of "alien" disks to go t

RE: non-PC Floppy imaging

2018-01-05 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Guy > Sotomayor via cctalk > Sent: 05 January 2018 19:53 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: non-PC Floppy imaging > > Hi, > > I now have a number of uCode diskettes

Re: R: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Here's a government-(Canada) sponsored paper on the subject: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes/longevity-recordable-cds-dvds.html In any case, my

Re: R: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread ANDY HOLT via cctalk
"Is there a form of machine readable data older than 150 years?" Jacquard cards; Morse recorder; certain musical instrument programmes. Also with modern scanners virtually any printed material and some handwritten. Andy

Re: R: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk wrote: The M kind of dvd supports guarantee over 1000 years of retention, and resistance to acid/alien invasion/etc let's start with: "How old is the oldest surviving M-disc?" "Is there a form of machine readable data older than 150 years?" "Hav

Re: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Diane Bruce via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:33:47PM +, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> Do they also guarantee there will be a device capable of reading it >> in 1000 years? > > It was bad enough with the BBC Domesday project. > > Pape

Re: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 09:33:47PM +, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > Do they also guarantee there will be a device capable of reading it > in 1000 years? It was bad enough with the BBC Domesday project. Paper. Paper is the only way. acid free paper. > > bill > > __

Re: non-PC Floppy imaging

2018-01-05 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2018-01-05 4:08 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Hi, I now have a number of uCode diskettes for my IBM 4331. I would somehow like to image them so: a) I have backups in case the floppies themselves

Re: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Do they also guarantee there will be a device capable of reading it in 1000 years? bill From: cctalk on behalf of Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 4:01 PM To: 'Paul Koning'; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject:

Re: R: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 01/05/2018 01:01 PM, Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk wrote: > The M kind of dvd supports guarantee over 1000 years of retention, and > resistance to acid/alien invasion/etc Here's a government-(Canada) sponsored paper on the subject: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conse

Re: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > > On Jan 5, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org > >> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote

R: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
The M kind of dvd supports guarantee over 1000 years of retention, and resistance to acid/alien invasion/etc -Messaggio originale- Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Paul Koning via cctalk Inviato: venerdì 5 gennaio 2018 21:45 A: Warner Losh; General Discussion:

Re: Large discs

2018-01-05 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 5, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe >>> using enterprise level one

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: > >> I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe >> using enterprise level ones. >> Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6 >>

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
In cases where the source remains available, in case of problems, nothing can beat it for sneaker-net. It does not contribute noticeably to the transfer speeds. On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote: You're one of the first people I've heard quote that. Do you know where that is s

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe using enterprise level ones. Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6 months if unpowered... any more time means being lucky. Would suck to save, s

Re: non-PC Floppy imaging

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I now have a number of uCode diskettes for my IBM 4331. I would somehow > like to image them so: > a) I have backups in case the floppies themselves go bad > b) be able to investigate their content

Re: non-PC Floppy imaging

2018-01-05 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
I don’t know much about the system itself but if it used one of the typical IBM 8” diskette formats, you may be able to use IMD or Teledisk and an appropriate multi-density floppy controller. I’ve had pretty good success with

Re: non-PC Floppy imaging

2018-01-05 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I now have a number of uCode diskettes for my IBM 4331. I would somehow > like to image them so: > a) I have backups in case the floppies themselves go bad > b) be able to investigate their content

non-PC Floppy imaging

2018-01-05 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
Hi, I now have a number of uCode diskettes for my IBM 4331. I would somehow like to image them so: a) I have backups in case the floppies themselves go bad b) be able to investigate their contents in case I have to “merge” the contents of multiple floppies to make a single good one These

RE: Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
Ed Sharpe wrote: >what about xenon processors?? Xenon? You mean the processor jointly developed by Microsoft & IBM based on the PowerPC architecture, developed and used in the Xbox 360? Or perhaps did you mean Xeon (note no N in the middle)? There is a big difference. Don't know if the Xeno

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
You're one of the first people I've heard quote that. Do you know where that is said? Years ago several friends and myself all picked up 64mb usb thumb drives so we could have multiple backups of a game and few other projects we were coding.  Maybe it was an extended period of time (we ended up

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
A 6TB hard drive, available for about $130 (or less), would be equivalent to about 60 of the 100GB BDXL disks, which seem to go for about $6 each, so $360 for around 6TB. And the hard disk will take less time to read and write. And the hard drive would take up less space. JRJ On 1/4/2018 7:50 P

Re: Able ENABLE (was: Boot RXS)

2018-01-05 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
>> From: Jim Stephens >> I had a meeting with Ken Omohundro on 12/7 and will be having dinner >> with him again soon. I'll ask him about it. I know he doesn't have any >> records left, but I could take him your notes and see what he recalls. > Thanks very much for that offer;

R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe using enterprise level ones. Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6 months if unpowered... any more time means being lucky. Would suck to save, store, and after some years find the data mangled

PDP-10 subreddit

2018-01-05 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Here's a PDP-10 subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PDP10/