Re: Chip in first Apple AirPort WiFi

2017-04-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Apr 12, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Ethan via cctalk wrote: > I still have a pre-wifi 13" long ISA WaveLan card that is in the 915mhz ISM > band sitting on a shelf. Weird Stuff had one too when last I was there. -- Chris

Re: C, STL, primitive languages that live on and on ... Re: Does anyone here know Siemens STL?

2017-04-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Apr 17, 2017, at 1:33 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 04/17/2017 01:23 PM, Guy Dawson via cctalk wrote: >> I think timing had a lot to do with C's success. >> >> It's a decent language and at the time powerful and flexible compared >> to other languages. Universities picked up UNIX

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 04/17/2017 09:20 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > Is track 0 sector 1, formatted as 512BPS? If not, how does it even > come up with the idea to try 1024BPS? (in order to read it, to find > out that it should try it for reading it...) > > (at location 0Bh in the BIOS Parameter Block, is the bytes per >

Got a request for an image of CP/M for Morrow Disk Jockey

2017-04-17 Thread william degnan via cctalk
I got a request through my web site for a CP/M System Boot Disk for the Morrow Disk Jockey DMA Controller Board. Anyone have an image I could make to help this guy out? Thanks BIll

Re: Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 17 Apr 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: WinNT/2K/XP will read Japanese PC98 MS-DOS 1024*8*2*77, but I don't know if it'll format that particular format (never tried). Doubtful on FORMAT, since that is working from a very short list of choices, but reading (and hence writing) can be

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 04/17/2017 07:01 PM, Terry Stewart via cctalk wrote: > Yes, the point is Fred, it didn't. So, if /N is 15, then it must > ONLY accept T:40 or 80, yea? WinNT/2K/XP will read Japanese PC98 MS-DOS 1024*8*2*77, but I don't know if it'll format that particular format (never tried). --Chuck

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
>If you can find an old registered copy of FORMATQM, it allowed very >flexible formatting. So, you could format a DMF floppy by defining a >format in the FORMATS.CFG file thus: Reminds me of NEWDOS/80 V2 on the TRS-80 Mod 1/III. The PDRIVE command let you define your very own disk format! No o

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 04/17/2017 05:43 PM, Terry Stewart via cctalk wrote: >>> It may also be that is just doesn't support 77 and can only do 80 >>> tracks. > >> I don't think it is this. I can format it fine with 77 tracks >> using 22DSK > and IMD. It has no problem reading or >writing to 77 track formatted > dis

Re: Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
>>It may also be that is just doesn't support 77 and can only do 80 tracks. >I don't think it is this. I can format it fine with 77 tracks using 22DSK and IMD. It has no problem reading or >writing to 77 track formatted disks. Oh sorry Dwight, I thought you meant the drive here. You mean MS-DO

Re: Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, dwight via cctalk wrote: Some times it reads part of the disk. I don't know what it is looking at but it won't format over some types of original data. I've often erased with supper magnet to get past such stuff. That really got silly when they added "UNFORMAT"! It may a

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
>It may also be that is just doesn't support 77 and can only do 80 tracks. I don't think it is this. I can format it fine with 77 tracks using 22DSK and IMD. It has no problem reading or writing to 77 track formatted disks. Terry

Re: Extracting files off unknown 8_inch_disks Any thoughts

2017-04-17 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017, Terry Stewart via cctalk wrote: I'm puzzled why I couldn't format the disk using the /t:77 and /n:15 switches. Did MS-DOS just go by what was in the CMOS. If that's the case, why have those switches at all? Are they just legacy switches for pre-CMOS machines? The /T: an

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread dwight via cctalk
Some times it reads part of the disk. I don't know what it is looking at but it won't format over some types of original data. I've often erased with supper magnet to get past such stuff. It may also be that is just doesn't support 77 and can only do 80 tracks. Dwight

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
>Here's a writeup for those interested: >http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2017-04-15- adventures-with-an-8-inch-disk-drive-part1.htm One thing in this project puzzled me. Initially when I was testing the drive I tried to format it for 77-tracks. I used the command FORMAT B: /u /T:77 /N:1

Re: Kennedy 9000 Tape Drives, Terminals and Packs

2017-04-17 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 4/17/2017 1:11 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: There was an invoice that says they're Kennedy 9000-3, 4s models. Wow! One of those would be very cool to get. I can't find any information on the "4S" model, though. I am wondering if it has a SCSI interface. If it does, even better.

Horrible error in "pdp11 bus handbook"

2017-04-17 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
Just a heads-up that the 1979 edition of the "pdp11 bus handbook" has a very serious editing error in it, in the description of UNIBUS arbitration. On page 38, immediately after step 13 of the NPR Arbitration Sequence ("13. SACK must be negated before BBSY may be negated."), it says "A bus ma

Re: C, STL, primitive languages that live on and on ... Re: Does anyone here know Siemens STL?

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 04/17/2017 01:23 PM, Guy Dawson via cctalk wrote: > I think timing had a lot to do with C's success. > > It's a decent language and at the time powerful and flexible compared > to other languages. Universities picked up UNIX and C and taught a > lot of students. The went forth taking their skil

RE: Kennedy 9000 Tape Drives, Terminals and Packs

2017-04-17 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
Sorry all, this was meant to be a personal Email. Still haven't gotten used to the new way that the list works. My apologies. -Rick -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rick Bensene via cctalk Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 1:11 PM To: Ear

Re: C, STL, primitive languages that live on and on ... Re: Does anyone here know Siemens STL?

2017-04-17 Thread Guy Dawson via cctalk
I think timing had a lot to do with C's success. It's a decent language and at the time powerful and flexible compared to other languages. Universities picked up UNIX and C and taught a lot of students. The went forth taking their skills with them. On 16 April 2017 at 01:56, Charles Dickman via c

RE: Kennedy 9000 Tape Drives, Terminals and Packs

2017-04-17 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
> I was helping out someone here locally to dig thru a pile of electronics that > he had obtained in helping out a woman clean out her house. > Her husband passed away and she wanted the space back. Apparently the > husband "somehow" dealt in HW repair. > A good number of the items were known b

Kennedy 9000 Tape Drives, Terminals and Packs

2017-04-17 Thread Earl Baugh via cctalk
I was helping out someone here locally to dig thru a pile of electronics that he had obtained in helping out a woman clean out her house. Her husband passed away and she wanted the space back. Apparently the husband "somehow" dealt in HW repair. A good number of the items were known broken spares

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread dwight via cctalk
Hi Tez You where lucky. You had a format that was more or less standard. I have disk done in formats that are not so common. One was a real toughie. I had some 5.25 and some 8 inch hard sectored disk in MFM format. These were for the Polymorphic machines. I'd modified a Polymorphic 8 inch co

Re: cctech Digest, Vol 34, Issue 15

2017-04-17 Thread Peter Cetinski via cctalk
> On Apr 16, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Tim Mann via cctech > wrote: > > I hadn't heard of the MISE or M3SE before, so I googled. Remarkable > projects. It's pretty tempting to get an M3SE to play with on the Model 4P > that I bought as a reference platform when I was adding 4P support to xtrs. > (I don

RE: cctech Digest, Vol 34, Issue 15

2017-04-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
From: cctech [cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Tim Mann via cctech [cct...@classiccmp.org] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 8:13 PM To: cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: cctech Digest, Vol 34, Issue 15 Brief comments on a couple of topics... I ha

Re: Extracting files off “unknown” 8 inch disks. Any thoughts…

2017-04-17 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
Hi, Just an update on this. I still haven't got those 8' floppies of unknown origin to play with but I HAVE made a lot of progress with my own disks. Thanks to everyone who gave me help with this. Here's a writeup for those interested: http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2017-04-15-adventur