Hi folks - if any of the folks I used to know are still on this list (Tony
Duell? Pete Turnbull? Jim Doran? Jules Richardson?), I just wanted to let
you know I'll be visiting TNMoC for the first time on 11th Aug. I
mentioned this on the Edinburgh Computer History Project list and a few of
the old
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, Austin Pass wrote:
I'm trying to preserve my Acorn ADFS 3.5" discs. To this end, I've
purchased a KryoFlux "Pro" board and a new-old-stock ALPS floppy drive.
I've hooked it all up to a Windows 8.1 VM and everything *seems* to be
working. However, the .adl images I create are
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Austin Pass wrote:
> I'm trying to preserve my Acorn ADFS 3.5" discs. To this end, I've purchased
> a KryoFlux "Pro" board and a new-old-stock ALPS floppy drive.
>
> I've hooked it all up to a Windows 8.1 VM and everything *seems* to be
> working. However, the .a
" I do remember
reading that the EHT rectifier diode valves and shunt stabiliser triodes in
early
colour TVs gave off enough Xrays to be dangerous"
This is true. I have here an old HV octal-base tube rectifier that came out
of a color set. The vacuum envelope itself is encased in a second outer
en
Rob wrote
-
I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for
excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is
coming from so I can complain to my ISP?
-
Gone are the days when people "just know" about mailman-owner, etc. :)
Rather
Please keep this thread reigned in. It comes up about once a year and never
ends well.
I don't mind if people post a thread about something that may not quite be
classic - once in a great while per person. But if someone is only/always
talking about something I don't feel is classic, they'll be as
On 07/01/2016 03:00 PM, TeoZ wrote:
> People junked most of the older small low res slow refresh non
> working (bad caps) non widescreen LCD monitors by now. I kept one I
> got free and fixed ages ago for bench testing (has just a VGA
> connection) since it is easy to move around. Newer gaming vide
For some things like video editing a tube monitor has better color
gamet..sp?... than chap or enemy middle expensive lcds
Most important to me is this color although for data and juSt to stretch time
line across I use 40 Inch lcd flats
Good flats are good but price is very ex
People junked most of the older small low res slow refresh non working (bad
caps) non widescreen LCD monitors by now. I kept one I got free and fixed
ages ago for bench testing (has just a VGA connection) since it is easy to
move around. Newer gaming video cards don't even have VGA out anymore s
> I have found there are two possible causes for excessive bounce,
>
> a) Worn out shock absorbers.
>
> b) Badly adjusted high area female support systems
>
Very helpful
:-) :-)
On 7/1/2016 5:01 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
On 01/07/2016 18:10, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for
excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the
problem is
coming from so I can complain to my ISP?
Thanks
Rob
I have
On 01/07/2016 18:10, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for
excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is
coming from so I can complain to my ISP?
Thanks
Rob
I have found there are two possible causes for exce
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> The premise is that some things will NEVER be considered "classic". EVER.
> Not for historians. Not for Anthropologists. Not for archeologists. Not
> for paleontologists. There are some machines that the coprolite
> (fossilized feces) colle
On 2016-07-01 4:08 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
Not a very good comparison because one is pointed at your head for
months or years and the latter is momentary.
...
How much of the health damage of early color TV was due, not to the
hardware, but to the quality of the content?
(USA networks were/are cl
On 2016-07-01 4:08 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
Not a very good comparison because one is pointed at your head for
months or years and the latter is momentary.
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, tony duell wrote:
I am not convinced that the effect is purely cumulative anyway. In other
words,
a lower intensity (and lo
I'm trying to preserve my Acorn ADFS 3.5" discs. To this end, I've purchased a
KryoFlux "Pro" board and a new-old-stock ALPS floppy drive.
I've hooked it all up to a Windows 8.1 VM and everything *seems* to be working.
However, the .adl images I create are all 0KB in size.
I've created a profi
Not a very good comparison because one is pointed at your head for
months or years and the latter is momentary.
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, tony duell wrote:
I am not convinced that the effect is purely cumulative anyway. In other words,
a lower intensity (and lower energy) beam for longer might not do a
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, j...@cimmeri.com wrote:
I fully get the distinction between -- for instance -- a classic Ford Mustang
and a classic Ford Pinto.
Everyone agrees, the Mustangs are classic, but there *are* people who are
into Pintos.
I knew a family that was into them 30 years ago.
. . . and
On 7/1/2016 2:33 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
"I wasn't here for the last XXX number
of times that that flamewar raged" is
not an acceptable reason to
deliberately re-ignite it.
It is an easy, fully objective
parameter for OLD machines, not for
"classic" machines, which is subjective.
If you w
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, j...@cimmeri.com wrote:
Wouldn't have guessed to discuss an iMac here, but rather than picking &
choosing certain computer models as being appropriate to discuss here or not,
wouldn't it just be easier (and fairer) to define a certain number of years
past which it *is* appro
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, j...@cimmeri.com wrote:
This is why it's just easier to use a single criteria -- age -- and leave it
at that. Why is age acceptable everywhere else in collecting, but not here?
Otherwise, someone (the list owner?) has to pontificate over a list of
acceptable computers. Go
> On Jul 1, 2016, at 3:27 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote:
>
>
>
> On 7/1/2016 2:03 PM, Toby Thain wrote:
>> On 2016-07-01 2:46 PM, Ian Finder wrote:
>>> That was my thought too- color CRTs are where this really mattered- which
>>> is why I mentioned black and white.
>>>
>>> I am not overly concern
On 7/1/2016 2:03 PM, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2016-07-01 2:46 PM, Ian Finder wrote:
That was my thought too- color CRTs
are where this really mattered- which
is why I mentioned black and white.
I am not overly concerned, someone in
the IRC channel I'm in asked and I
thought I'd ping. Even then,
On 07/01/2016 11:48 AM, Toby Thain wrote:
> Or, for free, a dumpster LCD. I find working ones discarded
> regularly, and 90% of the non-working ones are just bad inverter caps
> ($2 worth).
Been there, done that--and even depopulated the inverter section on one
PCB (badly designed--capacitors ho
> > I am not overly concerned, someone in the IRC channel I'm in asked and I
> > thought I'd ping. Even then, in a color CRT without any lead shielding, I'd
> > bet the emissions pale in comparison to any kind of real medical X-ray.
>
> Not a very good comparison because one is pointed at your he
On 2016-07-01 2:46 PM, Ian Finder wrote:
That was my thought too- color CRTs are where this really mattered- which
is why I mentioned black and white.
I am not overly concerned, someone in the IRC channel I'm in asked and I
thought I'd ping. Even then, in a color CRT without any lead shielding,
Computers don't (yet) have voting
rights. :-)
The hell they don't!
Remember when Hanging Chad htrew the deciding vote?
Actually we want this Packard Bell http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl;_3.jpg
for the computer display at SMECC!
Also want any promo material, artwork, manuals etc etc etc
drop me a line offlist with a title of SMECC Packard Bell please
to _couryhouse@aol.com_ (mailto:couryho...@aol
Actually we want this Packard Bell http://www.smecc.org/itemsklkljl;_3.jpg
for the computer display at SMECC!
Also want any promo material, artwork, manuals etc etc etc
drop me a line offlist with a title of SMECC Packard Bell please
to _couryhouse@aol.com_ (mailto:couryho...@aol.c
> On Jul 1, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
> We're entering another interesting period of time. For those who want a
> desktop PC to read email and surf the web, the display could well turn
> out to be the most expensive component by far.
Interestingly, the RPi could result in the res
On 2016-07-01 2:39 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
On Jul 1, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 07/01/2016 11:10 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
As I understand it, the Raspberry Pi is not that far off (and before
it, the ZX Spectrum). But then, there are half a dozen models of
Raspberry Pi, even exclud
> I know a few list members who have been doing this, after fixing CRT
> cataracts.
>
> Was that glass additionally leaded to cut down on X-rays at all? Is there a
> risk to that?
It probably was leaded glass, but mono CRTs only run at about 15kV on the
final anode. I don't think you get much of
That was my thought too- color CRTs are where this really mattered- which
is why I mentioned black and white.
I am not overly concerned, someone in the IRC channel I'm in asked and I
thought I'd ping. Even then, in a color CRT without any lead shielding, I'd
bet the emissions pale in comparison to
> On Jul 1, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Ian Finder wrote:
>
> I know a few list members who have been doing this, after fixing CRT
> cataracts.
>
> Was that glass additionally leaded to cut down on X-rays at all? Is there a
> risk to that?
>
> These are mostly black and white CRTs.
From what I remember
I know a few list members who have been doing this, after fixing CRT
cataracts.
Was that glass additionally leaded to cut down on X-rays at all? Is there a
risk to that?
These are mostly black and white CRTs.
--
Ian Finder
(206) 395-MIPS
ian.fin...@gmail.com
> On Jul 1, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
>
> On 07/01/2016 11:10 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
>
>> As I understand it, the Raspberry Pi is not that far off (and before
>> it, the ZX Spectrum). But then, there are half a dozen models of
>> Raspberry Pi, even excluding the Pi Zero.
>
> ...an
On 07/01/2016 11:10 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> As I understand it, the Raspberry Pi is not that far off (and before
> it, the ZX Spectrum). But then, there are half a dozen models of
> Raspberry Pi, even excluding the Pi Zero.
...and numerous clones. This email is being run through a server
run
>
>
> Unfortunately, I think we'll have to come to grips with the realization
> that
> in 50 years, beige box and other sorts of (soulless) commodity PCs will be
> primarily what survive amongst retro enthusiasts.
>
>
>
There are vintage early WWW era intel machines that are historic if not
vintag
On 1 July 2016 at 20:00, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> It can't be numbers sold, either, because virtually everyone agrees the
> Commodore 64 qualifies as appropriate and that machine was the greatest
> single selling model of computer of all time.
As I understand it, the Raspberry Pi is not that far
> Computers don't (yet) have voting
> rights. :-)
>
> But you're defining "spirit" and listing
> criteria by which a machine is
> appropriate or not. A PS/2 with an
> 80386 running Windows 3.1 is acceptable,
> whereas a Packard Bell with an 80386
> running Windows 3.1 is not.Yeah, you
On 1 July 2016 at 03:09, Terry Stewart wrote:
> My classic/vintage computer activity has taken a back seat lately but I did
> find a machine I had on the "classic" list for some time. It's now part of
> the collection.
> http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/collection/imac.htm
Totally an interes
On 1 July 2016 at 18:48, Ian Finder wrote:
>
> Likewise there are Packard Bell X86 older than that iMac, that would
> qualify by most age limits I'd expect to be imposed, but that I'd cringe at
> seeing discussed here.
This is one of the things I find a little odd about the Facebook
Vintage Comp
On 7/1/2016 11:48 AM, Ian Finder wrote:
The original iMac is old enough to vote... And besides, I don't think
drawing a chronological line in the sand is necessarily sensible.
Just don't violate the spirit of classic computing? (A G5 tower that you
run Linux on is not classic computing, for in
I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for
excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is
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Thanks
Rob
The original iMac is old enough to vote... And besides, I don't think
drawing a chronological line in the sand is necessarily sensible.
Just don't violate the spirit of classic computing? (A G5 tower that you
run Linux on is not classic computing, for instance)
Likewise there are Packard Bell X86
> >> Some would say this is not vintage, classic or collectible (and so
> >> shouldn't be discussed here). However, these are all subjected terms which
> >> can be (and are!) argued about at length.
>
> Wouldn't have guessed to discuss an iMac
> here, but rather than picking & choosing
> certai
On 7/1/2016 9:00 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
Some would say this is not vintage, classic or collectible (and so
shouldn't be discussed here). However, these are all subjected terms which
can be (and are!) argued about at length.
Wouldn't h
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Jay West wrote:
> Terry wrote...
>> Some would say this is not vintage, classic or collectible (and so
>> shouldn't be discussed here). However, these are all subjected terms
>> which can be (and are!) argued about at length.
>
> To which Ethan replied:
>
> I
Terry wrote...
> Some would say this is not vintage, classic or collectible (and so
> shouldn't be discussed here). However, these are all subjected terms
> which can be (and are!) argued about at length.
To which Ethan replied:
I would say that it is. It's an iconic machine that runs a
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 02:19:54PM +0300, Plamen Mihaylov wrote:
> Anyone have Motorola based AIX installation cds at least 4.1.4r4 or newer?
Did you manage to find a copy? If not, I _think_ I have a copy somewhere so
can take a look.
I assume this is for a PowerStack?
Cheers, MJ
--
Michael-Joh
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
> My classic/vintage computer activity has taken a back seat lately but I did
> find a machine I had on the "classic" list for some time. It's now part of
> the collection.
> http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/collection/imac.htm
Cool.
> So
>
>
> >
>
> I seem to remember an OSI version/docs. I may have the docs for this if
> anyone wants me to investigate...
>
> Bill Degnan
> twitter: billdeg
> vintagecomputer.net
> -
>
> I'm interested, Bill. Thank you for checking.
> -
>
>
So far, I have not found it. I have a lot of unl
Hi all,
I've got an Dolch C100D Analyzer with an bunch of Probes lately,
And I'm lookinffor someone that has an Dolch LA with an Disassembler
Option - ROM installed and is able to read out it's contents.
I Do habe an C100D analyzer, got it w/o any documentation but the
LAM3250 docs available at t
yes smecc saved one... I do not see a lot of them around anymore
In a message dated 6/30/2016 6:40:37 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
te...@webweavers.co.nz writes:
My classic/vintage computer activity has taken a back seat lately but I
did
find a machine I had on the "classic" lis
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