Re: [ccp4bb] complex multi-crystal averaging

2019-01-10 Thread Andrew Lovering
Thanks everyone for the pointers. I should clarify - my issue here is the multiple stage "disconnect" between PDB in xtal1 -> cutout density (into a "interim cell" just for this stage) -> phaser MR with density search model into xtal2 Hence, do I just simply pop the model from (1) into the "int

[ccp4bb] complex multi-crystal averaging

2019-01-09 Thread Andrew Lovering
Dear All, I suspect the way out of this is a new crystal (!) but interested to hear any advice. I have two crystal forms of a 500aa protein, vaguely tube-shaped 1=P3121, diffracts to 4.1 ang, 3 copies in asu, 86% solvent; map indicates it is a relative of other folds (but those are not so clos

Re: [ccp4bb] Complex seeding

2011-09-22 Thread VAN RAAIJ , MARK JOHAN
agree, any crystallisation idea is worth pursuing, given you have or can make enough sample to try it with. having said that, wouldn't you tend to select for the same crystals as the seed, i.e. crystals of the component on its own? have you tried limited proteolysis of your sample, incl. a bit of

Re: [ccp4bb] Complex seeding

2011-09-22 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Hi Peter This idea was discussed at the recent RAMC meeting, and there is at least one example where it has worked. Generally, cross-seeding can work as long as you have homology. See e.g. Obmolova et al. Acta Crystallogr. 2010, D66, 927–933. The same group has reported seeding a complex with

Re: [ccp4bb] Complex seeding

2011-09-21 Thread VAN RAAIJ , MARK JOHAN
agree, any crystallisation idea is worth pursuing, given you have or can make enough sample to try it with. having said that, wouldn't you tend to select for the same crystals as the seed, i.e. crystals of the component on its own? have you tried limited proteolysis of your sample, incl. a bit

Re: [ccp4bb] Complex seeding

2011-09-21 Thread Enrico Stura
The idea is not at all crazy. In a sense it is quite similar to Stoichiometric variation screening* if you consider that the lattice of the crystallized subunit may contain planes that might be conserved in the crystal of your hope for 3 protein complex. *Stura, E.A., Graille, M., Taussig, M

Re: [ccp4bb] Complex seeding

2011-09-21 Thread Peter Hsu
I forgot to mention, I can reconstitute the complex (co-expression/mixing proteins) and the complex comes off both ion exchange and an SD200 as one peak. Just haven't had luck with getting crystals.

Re: [ccp4bb] Complex seeding

2011-09-21 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2011-09-21 at 18:04 +0100, Peter Hsu wrote: > Or is this just a crazy/bad idea? If there is one thing that I learned about crystallization, is that very few ideas are so crazy that they are bad (i.e. not worth trying). Well, if dried seaweed and ground horse hair are good for seeding, I d

[ccp4bb] Complex seeding

2011-09-21 Thread Peter Hsu
Hi all, I've been trying to crystallize a 3 protein complex recently with little success. However, crystals of each subunit have previously been crystallized. I was wondering if any one knows of any literature/experiences where people have used seeds from an individual subunit to seed for a com

Re: [ccp4bb] complex

2010-05-18 Thread Roger Rowlett
For gel exclusion chromatography it is generally adsvisable to include 100 mM NaCl or equivalent ionic strength in the elution buffer to suppress nonspecific adsorption. In addition the pH and ionic strength of the elution buffer should be compatible with your protein folding stability. It is possi

[ccp4bb] complex

2010-05-18 Thread intekhab alam
Hello I am trying to complex two proteins of 57 and 18 kda and using pET 22b as an expression system. I purified both with His tag and the purity is quite nice after Ni-NTA (Buffer is Tris,Nacl and Imidazole). After purification with Ni_NTA i tried to improve my protein purity using gel filteration

Re: [ccp4bb] Complex degradation

2009-05-25 Thread Herman . Schreuder
-Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Office 2004 Test Drive User Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 3:02 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Complex degradation Dear members, I am trying to crystallize a complex of two proteins

[ccp4bb] Complex degradation

2009-05-21 Thread Office 2004 Test Drive User
Dear members, I am trying to crystallize a complex of two proteins prepared in Tris, NaCl and DTT. The problem is one of the proteins degrades over time and allows only the second protein to crystallize. While addition of protease inhibitors such as EDTA is one of the ways to go, I would like to kn