[ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-06 Thread Dianfan Li
Dear all, Thanks a lot for good suggestions on this topic. To answer some of the questions: The apo strucuture has not been solved; the crystals dissolved upon soaking (my term 'crack' was not accurate); and I have not tried co-crystallization. A brief summerization here: 1) Soak/Co-crystalli

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-03 Thread Ed Pozharski
Consider cross-linking crystals with glutaraldehyde. The caveat here is that you may end up with the protein conformation that is forced by lattice, but if the issue is just the fragility, you should be fine. I assume that crystals simply crack but do not dissolve? Certainly, as others have said

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread Yuri Pompeu
Maybe someone has suggested this already... If so, I am re-enforcing it. If the cracking is coming from actual molecular movement induced by binding (and not other reason like differing ionic strength in your soaking conditions) you could try setting up some co-crystallization and (hopefully) gr

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread
. Best of luck Sofia Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: Dianfan Li Sender: CCP4 bulletin board Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 19:17:03 To: Reply-To: Dianfan Li Subject: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues Dear all, Sorry about

[ccp4bb] Subject: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi , To add to the previous comments, crystallization of GTP or ATP (or their analogues) with their kinase/ A- or G-tpases can depend on a lot of factors that were mentioned (such as packing). A simple common problem is that ATP solutions should be carefully buffered prior to their use for soakin

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread Boaz Shaanan
972-8-646-1710 From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Dianfan Li [l...@tcd.ie] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:17 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues Dear all, Sorry about a non-crystallographic quest

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread Artem Evdokimov
I assume that cocrystallization has failed? What you are experiencing is likely the effect of conformational transition caused by ligand. You can try very slow adition (even microdialysis) or if your ligand is fairly insoluble then you can just add a tiny solid particle of inhibitor to your drop an

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread Francis E Reyes
On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Dianfan Li wrote: > I am working on a kinase and would like to get an ATP analogue into > the crystals. When soaked with AMP-PCP, the kinase crystals crack in > about 15 min at 4 C. 15 minutes is a long time. Scoop crystals during that time period. Do the cracked

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread Fischmann, Thierry
etin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Dianfan Li Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 2:17 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues Dear all, Sorry about a non-crystallographic question here. I am working on a kinase and would like to get an ATP a

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Dianfan Li wrote: > I am working on a kinase and would like to get an ATP analogue into > the crystals. When soaked with AMP-PCP, the kinase crystals crack in > about 15 min at 4 C. This isn't too surprising; most kinases undergo global conformational changes (dom

[ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread Dianfan Li
Dear all, Sorry about a non-crystallographic question here. I am working on a kinase and would like to get an ATP analogue into the crystals. When soaked with AMP-PCP, the kinase crystals crack in about 15 min at 4 C. I could try other analogues like AMP-PNP etc, but those would probably behavou