Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Poul Nissen
> not just write "no info" over the gray ones? And a 1-word > caption on all the little icons would help, IMHO. > Phoebe > > Original message >> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:56:58 -0400 >> From: Mischa Machius >> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Intro

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 15 July 2010 11:33:30 am Dunten, Pete W. wrote: > I like the species icon for 2cbr, human crabp in your list > http://xray.bmc.uu.se/gerard/structures_pdbprints.html. > > Is it something from Greek mythology? Ah yes, the minotaur genome project. I like the species icons to some exten

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Dunten, Pete W.
...@xray.bmc.uu.se] Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:02 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries If you were born before the Dutch lost their first World Cup final, you may remember the days when "everybody" knew that PDB entry 1t

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Phoebe Rice
Phoebe Original message >Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:56:58 -0400 >From: Mischa Machius >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > There are so many ways to address this issue. >

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Mischa Machius
There are so many ways to address this issue. Perhaps the simplest would be to use a combination of dimming and thick, solid borders vs. dashed borders to distinguish the two states of the icons. Cheers! MM On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Kevin Cowtan wrote: > Better still, I can let you see them

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Better still, I can let you see them though my eyes. Here's what the icons look like to me, and a link to Vizcheck, the tool I used to generate them: http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~cowtan/colour/pdb/pdb.html http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php Running this in various modes you sho

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Peter Keller
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Tim Gruene wrote: Maybe icons which are crossed out might be a better solution for the negative ones. The problem with this is that "X-RAY" crossed out suggests "no X-rays", i.e. a non X-ray experiment, not an X-ray experiment for which the structure factors are unavaila

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Frances C. Bernstein
I have trouble distinguishing the green and grey on my MacBook. Herbert, who is colorblind, can just barely distinguish that there are two different colors. Note that 1 of 12 men are colorblind so this is actually quite common. I would suggest using a pale transparent image to suggest abse

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
http://pdbe.org/pdbprints Good idea. But the icons for published/unpublished, protein present/protein absent, nucleotide present/nucleotide absent and ligand present/ligand absent look identical to me - I have to read the alt text. Is there some colour thing going on here w

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Tim Gruene
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:20:02PM +0100, Kevin Cowtan wrote: > Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: >> For a five-minute illustrated introduction to PDBprints (including >> instructions on how to include them in your own webpages) point your >> browser to: >> >> http://pdbe.org/pdbprint

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
Yep, its green-blue vs grey... Bad choice I guess? Perhaps you can provide a set of examples that work for you? Flip On 7/15/2010 13:20, Kevin Cowtan wrote: Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: For a five-minute illustrated introduction to PDBprints (including instructions on how to include them in you

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: For a five-minute illustrated introduction to PDBprints (including instructions on how to include them in your own webpages) point your browser to: http://pdbe.org/pdbprints Good idea. But the icons for published/unpublished, protein present/prote

[ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries

2010-07-15 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
If you were born before the Dutch lost their first World Cup final, you may remember the days when "everybody" knew that PDB entry 1tim was the structure of chicken triosephosphate isomerase, 1hhb was human haemoglobin, 1lyz was hen egg-white lysozyme, etc. Unfortunately, life for a structural b