What would be wrong with WORDS? They were such a clever invention. I can tell the difference between colors, but it takes a second step to figure out what they mean anyway. Why not just write "no info" over the gray ones? And a 1-word caption on all the little icons would help, IMHO. Phoebe
---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:56:58 -0400 >From: Mischa Machius <mach...@med.unc.edu> >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient, at-a-glance info about PDB entries >To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > There are so many ways to address this issue. > Perhaps the simplest would be to use a combination > of dimming and thick, solid borders vs. dashed > borders to distinguish the two states of the icons. > Cheers! MM > On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Kevin Cowtan wrote: > > Better still, I can let you see them though my > eyes. Here's what the icons look like to me, and a > link to Vizcheck, the tool I used to generate > them: > > http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~cowtan/colour/pdb/pdb.html > > http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php > > Running this in various modes you should be able > to pick colours which work for everyone, not just > for me. > > Flip Hoedemaeker wrote: > > Yep, its green-blue vs grey... Bad choice I > guess? Perhaps you can provide a set of examples > that work for you? > > Flip > > On 7/15/2010 13:20, Kevin Cowtan wrote: > > Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: > > For a five-minute illustrated introduction > to PDBprints (including > > instructions on how to include them in your > own webpages) point your > > browser to: > > http://pdbe.org/pdbprints > > Good idea. > > But the icons for published/unpublished, > protein present/protein absent, > > nucleotide present/nucleotide absent and > ligand present/ligand absent > > look identical to me - I have to read the alt > text. > > Is there some colour thing going on here which > is invisible to protanopes? > > -- > EMAIL DISCLAIMER > http://www.york.ac.uk/docs/disclaimer/email.htm > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mischa Machius, PhD > Director, Center for Structural Biology > Assoc. Professor, Dept. of Pharmacology > Member, Lineberger Comprehensive Cancer Center > University of North Carolina > 4079 Genetic Medicine > CB#7365 > 120 Mason Farm Road > Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7365, U.S.A. > tel: +1-919-843-4485 > fax: +1-919-966-5640 > email: mach...@med.unc.edu Phoebe A. Rice Assoc. Prof., Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology The University of Chicago phone 773 834 1723 http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/01_Faculty/01_Faculty_Alphabetically.php?faculty_id=123 RNA is really nifty DNA is over fifty We have put them both in one book Please do take a really good look http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp