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On 15/07/2010, at 16.40, Phoebe Rice wrote:

> What would be wrong with WORDS?  They were such a clever
> invention.  I can tell the difference between colors, but it
> takes a second step to figure out what they mean anyway.  Why
> not just write "no info" over the gray ones?  And a 1-word
> caption on all the little icons would help, IMHO.
>   Phoebe
> 
> ---- Original message ----
>> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:56:58 -0400
>> From: Mischa Machius <mach...@med.unc.edu>  
>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing PDBprints - salient,
> at-a-glance info about PDB entries  
>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> 
>>  There are so many ways to address this issue.
>>  Perhaps the simplest would be to use a combination
>>  of dimming and thick, solid borders vs. dashed
>>  borders to distinguish the two states of the icons.
>>  Cheers! MM
>>  On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Kevin Cowtan wrote:
>> 
>>    Better still, I can let you see them though my
>>    eyes. Here's what the icons look like to me, and a
>>    link to Vizcheck, the tool I used to generate
>>    them:
>> 
>>    http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~cowtan/colour/pdb/pdb.html
>> 
>>    http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php
>> 
>>    Running this in various modes you should be able
>>    to pick colours which work for everyone, not just
>>    for me.
>> 
>>    Flip Hoedemaeker wrote:
>> 
>>      Yep, its green-blue vs grey... Bad choice I
>>      guess? Perhaps you can provide a set of examples
>>      that work for you?
>> 
>>      Flip
>> 
>>      On 7/15/2010 13:20, Kevin Cowtan wrote:
>> 
>>        Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote:
>> 
>>          For a five-minute illustrated introduction
>>          to PDBprints (including
>> 
>>          instructions on how to include them in your
>>          own webpages) point your
>> 
>>          browser to:
>> 
>>          http://pdbe.org/pdbprints
>> 
>>        Good idea.
>> 
>>        But the icons for published/unpublished,
>>        protein present/protein absent,
>> 
>>        nucleotide present/nucleotide absent and
>>        ligand present/ligand absent
>> 
>>        look identical to me - I have to read the alt
>>        text.
>> 
>>        Is there some colour thing going on here which
>>        is invisible to protanopes?
>> 
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> Phoebe A. Rice
> Assoc. Prof., Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
> The University of Chicago
> phone 773 834 1723
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> 
> RNA is really nifty
> DNA is over fifty
> We have put them 
>  both in one book
> Please do take a 
>  really good look
> http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp

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