Re: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor

2012-03-14 Thread Roger Rowlett
Dipankar, An MR R-factor of 53% is close to what you get with a random, incorrect solution. Even for challenging MR cases, your MR R-factor should normally be under 50% before rigid-body refinement of the MR solution. As others have mentioned, you should not proceed directly to refinement unl

Re: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor

2012-03-14 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 09:26 +, Dipankar Manna wrote: > After running molrep R-factor is around 53% (100% identity), after > rigid body refinement its showing around 49% and after restrained > refinement its showing around 47%. Sounds like you didn't get a solution. With 100% identity MR in m

Re: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor

2012-03-14 Thread Herman . Schreuder
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Dipankar Manna Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:26 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor Dear Crystallographers

Re: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor

2012-03-14 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Manna Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:26 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor Dear Crystallographers, Can anybody guide me how to reduce R-factor, means which are the basic parameters I have

Re: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor

2012-03-14 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Dipankar If you've been reading the ccp4bb for more than a couple of weeks, you should have realised that reducing your R-factor is *not* the goal of refinement - having a low R-factor is one of the consequences of having built your model well and of having performed a good refinement.

Re: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor

2012-03-14 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Dipankar, if you refine your model straight after molecular replacement you risk to further strengthen model bias which could result in hovering out features in your data which otherwise help you improve your model. Look at the model and the map

[ccp4bb] How to reduce R factor

2012-03-14 Thread Dipankar Manna
Dear Crystallographers, Can anybody guide me how to reduce R-factor, means which are the basic parameters I have to look for to reduce the R-factor during refinement. I am newly learning the refinement. After running molrep R-factor is around 53% (100% identity), after rigid body refinement its

Re: [ccp4bb] How to reduce R-factor and Free-R

2009-12-18 Thread Francis E Reyes
What is the space group? Is there unmodeled density? Are all residues in your construct built? What is the refinement protocol? FR On Dec 18, 2009, at 6:47 AM, james09 pruza wrote: Dear All, I am trying to solve a 2.55 A resolution data set. The R-factor is around 24% while Free-R is

[ccp4bb] How to reduce R-factor and Free-R

2009-12-18 Thread james09 pruza
Dear All, I am trying to solve a 2.55 A resolution data set. The R-factor is around 24% while Free-R is 30%. The Residues in most favourable region is 95% while additionally allowed region is 5%. What are the ways to reduce the R-factor and Free-R? Around 100 water molecules are placed. Thanks in