Re: [ccp4bb] How to get formfactor for Zn +2.

2011-10-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Thank you all. I had forgotten about checking pdb record formats.. Eleanor It works when you follow the rules! On 10/04/2011 05:05 PM, Frances C. Bernstein wrote: I checked back and the 1992 format decscription did not use columns 77 - 80 for ATOM/HETATM records. But the 1996 document did use

Re: [ccp4bb] How to get formfactor for Zn +2.

2011-10-04 Thread Frances C. Bernstein
I checked back and the 1992 format decscription did not use columns 77 - 80 for ATOM/HETATM records. But the 1996 document did use them. I then checked the old Newsletters and the proposed use of columns 77 - 80 was discussed in April 1995. Frances ===

Re: [ccp4bb] How to get formfactor for Zn +2.

2011-10-04 Thread Ian Tickle
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Eleanor Dodson wrote: > OK > > So the ATOM TYPE has ZN O C S etc in column 77/78 and the +2 etc in 79/80 > > Is there any documentation for this? > > E Yes, see: ftp://ftp.wwpdb.org/pub/pdb/doc/format_descriptions/Format_v33_A4.pdf Though this has been the forma

Re: [ccp4bb] How to get formfactor for Zn +2.

2011-10-04 Thread Garib N Murshudov
I think it is a pdb rule. Here are some of the rules: http://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/format33/sect9.html Charges (confusingly) could be 2+ etc. Regards Garib On 4 Oct 2011, at 16:41, Eleanor Dodson wrote: > OK > > So the ATOM TYPE has ZN O C S etc in column 77/78 and the +2 etc in 79/80

Re: [ccp4bb] How to get formfactor for Zn +2.

2011-10-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
OK So the ATOM TYPE has ZN O C S etc in column 77/78 and the +2 etc in 79/80 Is there any documentation for this? E On 10/04/2011 03:56 PM, Garib N Murshudov wrote: If you will put element names in correct positions then refmac may have a chance to find it. Here is corrected positions: AT

Re: [ccp4bb] How to get formfactor for Zn +2.

2011-10-04 Thread Garib N Murshudov
If you will put element names in correct positions then refmac may have a chance to find it. Here is corrected positions: ATOM 1893 O HOH A 258 -8.934 52.268 49.467 0.00 66.53 O ATOM 1894 ZNZN B 1 -10.456 38.580 26.267 1.00 57.36 ZN+2 ATOM 1895 O

[ccp4bb] How to get formfactor for Zn +2.

2011-10-04 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Can anyone advise me how to get the Zn+2 formfactor from atomsf.lib The input coordinate is given atom type ZN+2 but the formfactor is that for Zn: I changed the atom name to Zn+2 but that made no difference... ATOM 1893 O UNK A 258 -8.934 52.268 49.467 0.00 66.53 O ATOM 1