[ccp4bb] hydrogen bonds in proteins

2012-05-11 Thread narayan viswam
Hello All, Sorry for this off-topic question. I'm wondering if people could suggest an online server to identify all kinds of hydrogen bonds and interactions in a given protein structure. Thanks in advance. Narayan

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread James Kiefer
Order of addition when making the solutions is often important to dilute the least soluble component rapidly. Zn acetate is the most soluble Zn salt. Put that in your tube first and then dilute it with your largets volume (probably either water) and then add the other ingredients, consider vortex

Re: [ccp4bb] Baverage calculation

2012-05-11 Thread Dale Tronrud
While a comparison of the B factors is easy to do, interpreting its meaning is not. The B factors are affected not only by the motion of the atoms, but by many other factors, including the overall quality of the order of the crystal. The B factors for a model based on a low resolution data set

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Katherine Sippel
You are correct. My Friday frazzled brain is stuck in pharmacology mode so I was thinking not of free hydroxide concentration but in terms of potential exchangable groups being sequestered by the buffer. No more posting on Friday. My apologies. Katherine On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Jacob Ke

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
Jacob Keller wrote: Just to make sure I understand pH correctly: isn't it true that the [OH-] should always be the same at a given pH (by definition)? Maybe not by definition but by equilibration with [H+] to make water: [H][OH]/[H2O] = Kw [OH] = Kw[H2O]/[H] if [W] is

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
It sounds as though microseeding worked very well, but the crystals are still growing far too quickly. Try diluting the protein and/or the reservoir solution to half the concs you are using or lower. To have enough protein you need larger drops, say 500 + 500 + 200 by hand if you can't do it with

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Thanks. I will try. Rajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:38:20 -0500 From: j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK mitegen loops might help, particularly micromesh... JPK On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Rajesh Kumar wrote: Dear

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Jacob Keller
mitegen loops might help, particularly micromesh... JPK On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Rajesh Kumar wrote: > > Dear Patrick, > > You along with others had made some suggestions last time. May be its a > good time to update. > > With classical screening, I got a crystal like appearances/showe

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES/seeding

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Dear Patrick, You along with others had made some suggestions last time. May be its a good time to update. With classical screening, I got a crystal like appearances/shower with HEPES 7.5 and LiSo4 1.5M. Trying to vary the pH of Hepes or using Tris and with different conc of Lithium I could o

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Roger Rowlett
Almost assuredly you are getting zinc hydroxide precipitate. Zn(OH)2 will readily precipitate from solutions of alkaline Zn(II). Your problem is compounded by the fact that HEPES is a non-coordinating buffer, so it does not help solubilize the zinc ion. You might find a weakly coordinating buff

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Jacob Keller
Just to make sure I understand pH correctly: isn't it true that the [OH-] should always be the same at a given pH (by definition)? JPK On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Katherine Sippel < katherine.sip...@gmail.com> wrote: > That is probably because you pH Tris with HCl rather than HEPES with Na

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
The rationale was to see if Zn could make differences in crystal morphology. This is because the protein has CxxC and CxxH similar to a zinc finger motif.All my efforts, additive screening, MMS, streaking, micro batch, hanging drop, changing drop ratio, drop shape, did not help me to either inc

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Katherine Sippel
That is probably because you pH Tris with HCl rather than HEPES with NaOH. The Ksp for Zn(OH)2 is 3x10^17 so the excess hydroxides are probably what are killing your solution. Cheers, Katherine On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Rajesh Kumar wrote: > If there is no cure , then fine. > pH may n

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Pius Padayatti
pH is the culprit here Like some already mentioned change your pH to 6.4 and use a different buffer like cacodylate or you can use Zinc acetate in water pH still would be 6.4 from your last mail why would you add Zn to your initial hit condition is there any rationale? Padayatti On Fri, May 11,

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
If there is no cure , then fine.pH may not be the answer as it doesn't Happen with TRIS buffer pH 7.6.Thanks to every oneRajesh Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:35:45 -0400 From: dj...@cornell.edu Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK There is no cu

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Initial screen was 0.1 M Hepes 7.5 and 1.25 M LiSO4. I added ZnSO4 to HEPES and immediately it precipitated.Just now I tried to add 10 mM ZnSO4 in to tube after volume is made up and only with HEPES 100mM pH 7.5.It happens as earlier. So is there any way I could use Zn with HEPES. I thought ma

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread David Schuller
On 05/11/12 12:26, Rajesh Kumar wrote: Dear All, This question sounds simple but I dont know the answer. I was preparing a 24 well crystal screen. When I try to use 10 mM ZnSO4 with HEPES (pH 7.6) buffer it precipitates. I tried both ZnCl2 and Zn acetate the effect is same. I dont know why t

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Boaz Shaanan
Could it be that the pH is too high? Zn is amphoteric and you might be seeing a precipitate of Zn(OH)2. Boaz   Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D. Dept. of Life Sciences  Ben-Gurion University of the Negev 

Re: [ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Jacob Keller
Try adding water first, so that you are not mixing concentrated Zn with concentrated HEPES. Also it depends what else is in your cocktail. JPK On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Rajesh Kumar wrote: > Dear All, > > This question sounds simple but I dont know the answer. > I was preparing a 24 we

[ccp4bb] zinc with HEPES

2012-05-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Dear All, This question sounds simple but I dont know the answer.I was preparing a 24 well crystal screen. When I try to use 10 mM ZnSO4 with HEPES (pH 7.6) buffer it precipitates. I tried both ZnCl2 and Zn acetate the effect is same. I dont know why this Zn in not compatible with HEPES.Could

[ccp4bb] CASP 10: Call for targets to assess the state of the art in protein structure modeling

2012-05-11 Thread Torsten Schwede
*CASP 10: Call for targets to assess the state of the art in protein structure modeling* As many of you know, CASP (Critical Assessment of Structure prediction) has been assessing the state of the art in modeling protein structure from sequence since 1994, running a community experiment once e

Re: [ccp4bb] Difficult dataset and refinement--P422? I422?Twinning?

2012-05-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I would proceed in I422 and refine to get a decent model anyway. I presume you have one molecule in that asymmetric unit? You don't give the pointless stats on the merging of symmetry equivalents. That would help decide whether the I point group is the more likely. The pseudo translation peak in P

Re: [ccp4bb] data backup

2012-05-11 Thread Jon Agirre
Dear Sonali, a friend of mine sent me some data a while ago, which also contained the CCP4 database directories, and I was able to continue his work using my version of CCP4. All job history, logs, results etc. appeared to be fine. Jon 2012/5/9 sonali dhindwal > Dear All, > > I want to take th

Re: [ccp4bb] data backup

2012-05-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Is there a fix for this? It has been a perennial request for some time.. eleanor On 9 May 2012 10:53, sonali dhindwal wrote: > Dear All, > > I want to take the backup of all my data which i have refined using CCP4. > Can you please guide if I copy all the ccp4 data folders and then transfer > to

Re: [ccp4bb] Baverage calculation

2012-05-11 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Bishwa, the quickest way is probably to delete the region from the PDB file (e.g. in coot or with an editor) and run baverage again. Cheers, Tim On 05/11/12 11:32, wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to make the comparative study of different mutan

[ccp4bb] Baverage calculation

2012-05-11 Thread
Hi, I would like to make the comparative study of different mutant structures. There is a region which is flexible and missing in some cases. Is there any direct method of calculating the BAVERAGE of that region. I used the baverage program in ccp4 for whole structure but would like to see the val

[ccp4bb] Fwd: Crystallographic Software Fayre (ECM27, Bergen)

2012-05-11 Thread Harry Powell
Hi folks Any of you who are considering attending ECM27 in Bergen may be interested in some of the sessions that have been arranged at this Software Fayre. The full list of Microsymposia at ECM27 should be available in the "next couple of days" > From: Martin Lutz > Date: 10 May 2012 13:48:11