Re: [ccp4bb] Akta Prime

2011-10-12 Thread Jan Gebauer
Dear Mike, strange - I just filed a repair job with labcrew for our old ÄKTA Prime. A technician was in house (for other reasons) when it stopped working and he was confident that he can replace our pump (rotary unit, as he called it)... Well let's hope he really does... On the other hand,

[ccp4bb] REMARK REMARK 3 OVERALL ANISOTROPIC B VALUE.

2011-10-12 Thread Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI
Dear all, can anyone tell me how to obtain the B11, B22, B33 values? After i performed the "anisotropic" refinement of the dataset at 1.6 A using REFMAC5, i can't read these values from the output PDB. thanks stephen -- Dr. Stephen Sin-Yin Chui (徐先賢) Assistant Professor, Department of Chemistry

Re: [ccp4bb] Akta Prime

2011-10-12 Thread Chun Luo
It's not difficult to replace parts of AKTAprime. But the pump may not be available anymore. It should be cheaper to get a new AKTAprime plus than getting a service contract for AKTAprime. AKTAprime plus costs just a little bit over $10,000 for a new one and lasts at least 5 years without a service

Re: [ccp4bb] Monomers in COOT

2011-10-12 Thread Jacqueline Vitali
try file > search monomer library. Hit search without typing anything. It will give you what it has. Jackie Vitali 2011/10/12 Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI > Dear All, > > For all monomers (3 letter) used in COOT, where can i find the full names > of the > whole library? Many thanks > > stephen >

[ccp4bb] Monomers in COOT

2011-10-12 Thread Dr. STEPHEN SIN-YIN, CHUI
Dear All, For all monomers (3 letter) used in COOT, where can i find the full names of the whole library? Many thanks stephen -- Dr. Stephen Sin-Yin Chui (徐先賢) Assistant Professor, Department of Chemistry, The University of Hong Kong, Pokfulam Road, Hong Kong SAR, China. Tel: 22415814 (Office

Re: [ccp4bb] Definition of B-factor (pedantry)

2011-10-12 Thread Frances C. Bernstein
At this point I usually chime in with an explanation of why the Protein Data Bank made some choice or other in the early days but on the matter of U vs. B I have not information to contribute. I can point out the at that time characters were stored in display code on a CDC 6600 and display code u

Re: [ccp4bb] change of origin for reflections or map

2011-10-12 Thread Francois Berenger
Hello, The more I read this mailing list, the more I feel the crystallographer is a very special human being: - he lives in the Fourier space - when he goes to the Cartesian space, he restricts himself to a small box that is replicated to the infinity using symmetry operators and origin shif

Re: [ccp4bb] Akta Prime / FPLC Options / Off Topic

2011-10-12 Thread Paul Smith
Michael, Unfortunately, I actually don't know who serves these machines apart from GE. Because you brought up the subject of GE equipment and service, I thought I would ask the community about the best options for routine crystallographic scale FPLC. In my opinion, following the takeover of Ph

Re: [ccp4bb] help me to determine ligand's b fator?

2011-10-12 Thread 王瑞
Thank you for all your advice.They are all good suggestions! 2011/10/12 王瑞 > Dear Everybody, > > I am sorry for a little off-topic. Could anyone tell me how to > determine a protein, peptide and ligand of a new pdb's b factor? I know > there are rampage and sfcheck to validate in ccp4, but I

Re: [ccp4bb] Definition of B-factor (pedantry)

2011-10-12 Thread James Holton
I think the PDB decided to store "B" instead of "U" because unless the B factor was > 80, there would always be a leading "0." in that column, and that would just be a pitiful waste of two bytes. At the time the PDB was created, I understand bytes cost about $100 each! (But that could be a slight

Re: [ccp4bb] Definition of B-factor (pedantry)

2011-10-12 Thread Phil Evans
Indeed that paper does lay out clearly the various definitions, thank you, but I note that you do explicitly discourage use of B (= 8 pi^2 U), and don't explain why the factor is 8 rather than 2 (ie why it multiplies (d*/2)^2 rather than d*^2). I think James Holton's reminder that the definition

Re: [ccp4bb] Ice rings... [maps and missing reflections]

2011-10-12 Thread George M. Sheldrick
Dear Ethan, Thankyou for the reference, but actually it's the wrong paper and anyway my only contribution to the 'free lunch algorithm' was to name it (in the title of the paper by Uson et al., Acta Cryst. (2007) D63, 1069-1074). By that time the method was already being used in ACORN and by the

Re: [ccp4bb] Ice rings... [maps and missing reflections]

2011-10-12 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 01:12:11 pm Edward A. Berry wrote: > Tim Gruene wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On 10/11/2011 09:58 PM, Ethan Merritt wrote: > >> On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:33:09 pm Garib N Murshudov wrote: > >>> In the limit yes. however

Re: [ccp4bb] Definition of B-factor (pedantry)

2011-10-12 Thread Pavel Afonine
This may answer some of your questions or at least give pointers: Grosse-Kunstleve RW, Adams PD: On the handling of atomic anisotropic displacement parameters. Journal of Applied Crystallography 2002, 35, 477-480. http://cci.lbl.gov/~rwgk/my_papers/iucr/ks0128_reprint.pdf Pavel On Wed, Oct 12,

Re: [ccp4bb] help me to determine ligand's b fator?

2011-10-12 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hello, 2011/10/12 Xiaopeng Hu > I made a simple script for this, perhaps you can edit it for your case. > Just save it as baverage.sh, then run it as ./baverage.sh your.pdb. > Here is another option: phenix.pdbtools model_statistics=true model.pdb or phenix.model_vs_data model.pdb data.hkl w

Re: [ccp4bb] Ice rings... [maps and missing reflections]

2011-10-12 Thread Edward A. Berry
Tim Gruene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/11/2011 09:58 PM, Ethan Merritt wrote: On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:33:09 pm Garib N Murshudov wrote: In the limit yes. however limit is when we do not have solution, i.e. when model errors are very large. In the limit

[ccp4bb] Akta Prime

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Colaneri
Dear all, We have an AktaPrime and GE Lifesciences stop servicing these instruments because they are getting old. Does anyone know of a third party company that gives contracts to maintain these instruments? Thank you. Mike Colaneri

[ccp4bb] How to make a geometric and energetic statistics for 20 NMR structures calculated by CNS program?

2011-10-12 Thread Huayue Li
Hi, all I don't know how to make a geometric and energetic statistics for 20 NMR solution structures calculated by CNS program. How to calculate r.m.s. deviations from idealized geometry; and how to calculate bond, angle, improper, vdw, NOE, cdih, and total energy? The pdb output files by C

Re: [ccp4bb] Definition of B-factor (pedantry)

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Phil My understanding is that when the B factor was devised it was believed that it wouldn't represent any physical reality and was initially at least widely regarded as a "garbage dump" for errors. So it made no difference whether or not it was related to the natural length in reciprocal spac

Re: [ccp4bb] help me to determine ligand's b fator?

2011-10-12 Thread Christian Roth
Hi, as Tim pointed out Rsym, I/sigma, Redundancy could not be obtained from a pdb, but you find it in the ouptut of SCALA, XSCALE, or similar scaling programs. I use Moleman2 from the Uppsala Software Factory to get the B values out of my pdb. F.e. "Bf St Type" provide B-Factors for every compon

Re: [ccp4bb] help me to determine ligand's b fator?

2011-10-12 Thread Xiaopeng Hu
I made a simple script for this, perhaps you can edit it for your case. Just save it as baverage.sh, then run it as ./baverage.sh your.pdb. #!/bin/bash echo "--" grep '^ATOM' $1|cut -b61-66|cat |awk '{sum+=$1} END { print " Protein Average B =",sum/NR;print

Re: [ccp4bb] Definition of B-factor (pedantry)

2011-10-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Not sure if this is helpful Phil, but SCALEIT output includes various definitions taken from the Willis and Prior book. But then there is the problem of converting the amplitude B factors to real space.. I attach my anisotropy notes.. It doesnt address the ? of sensible conventions!! E On 10

[ccp4bb] Definition of B-factor (pedantry)

2011-10-12 Thread Phil Evans
I've been struggling a bit to understand the definition of B-factors, particularly anisotropic Bs, and I think I've finally more-or-less got my head around the various definitions of B, U, beta etc, but one thing puzzles me. It seems to me that the natural measure of length in reciprocal space i

Re: [ccp4bb] help me to determine ligand's b fator?

2011-10-12 Thread Paul Emsley
On 12/10/11 12:53, 王瑞 wrote: > Dear Everybody, > > I am sorry for a little off-topic. Could anyone tell me how to > determine a protein, peptide and ligand of a new pdb's b factor? I > know there are rampage and sfcheck to validate in ccp4, but I only > found a overall b factor in their result. > >

Re: [ccp4bb] help me to determine ligand's b fator?

2011-10-12 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear , A PDB file is a coordinate file. The quantities you mention, Rsym, I/sigI, and Redundancy are quantities calculated from the measured data and can therefore not be determined from a PDB file. The PDB file also contains the B-factor, so in orde

[ccp4bb] help me to determine ligand's b fator?

2011-10-12 Thread 王瑞
Dear Everybody, I am sorry for a little off-topic. Could anyone tell me how to determine a protein, peptide and ligand of a new pdb's b factor? I know there are rampage and sfcheck to validate in ccp4, but I only found a overall b factor in their result. By the way, are there a software to det

[ccp4bb] postdoc position at Imperial College London

2011-10-12 Thread Zhang, Xiaodong
We wish to recruit a Research Associate to work with Professor Xiaodong Zhang’s research team in the Division of Molecular Biosciences, Centre for Structural Biology, at the South Kensington Campus of Imperial College London. This project is led by Prof. Xiaodong Zhang (http://www3.imperial.ac.

Re: [ccp4bb] change of origin for reflections or map

2011-10-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
If you have two pdb files - one for each ha solution, you can use csymmatch -pdbin-ref soln1.pdb -pdbin soln2.pdb -origin-hand -connetivity-radius 1 Eleanor On 10/11/2011 10:58 PM, George M. Sheldrick wrote: There are 4 possible origins in I222. There is a simple but inelegant way to check.

Re: [ccp4bb] Ice rings... [maps and missing reflections]

2011-10-12 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/11/2011 09:58 PM, Ethan Merritt wrote: > On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:33:09 pm Garib N Murshudov wrote: >> In the limit yes. however limit is when we do not have solution, i.e. when >> model errors are very large. In the limit map coefficie

Re: [ccp4bb] Ice rings... [maps and missing reflections]

2011-10-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Here we are I presume only worried about strong reflections lost behind an ice ring. At least that is where the discussion began. Isnt the best approach t this problem to use integration software which attempts to give a measurement, albeit with a high error estimate? The discussion has stra

Re: [ccp4bb] change of origin for reflections or map

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Tickle
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, James Holton wrote: > My list has 8 different allowed > shifts for I222, but I assume this is because the 0,0,1/2 shift is > part of a symmetry operator. I guess it is a matter of semantics as > to wether or not that is an "allowed shift"? > > James, the (0,0,1/2