Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Keitaro Yamashita
Dear Garib, Thank you very much. I will try the keyword. > Your case: Do you see some sort of modulation of intensities in your images? > Something like weak strong intensities along c axis? Or do you see elongated > peaks in the images. Sorry I'm not sure what "modulation of intensities in imag

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-08 Thread Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve
Hi Gloria, My hobby is space group symmetry. My interest phenix development. > so I can't imagine a protein crystallographer > would ever need to apply the modulation function to a protein atom > that happened to be on one. That's true. Protein residues don't have internal symmetry, therefore

Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Garib N Murshudov
Dear Yamashita Refmac indeed does not apply vdw repulsions (antibumping restraints) if the sum of occupancies is less than 1 and atoms do not belong to the same residue with the same alt code. It means that if you have two or more molecules each with occupancy less than 0.5 then there will be n

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use XDS programme to process data collected at Q315r detector

2010-12-08 Thread wu donghui
Dear all, Following Pierre and Harry's suggestion, problem solved using xdsme -i 'ROTATION_AXIS= -1.0 0.0 0.0'" image_name_*.img. Thank you very much. Good luck for everyone Cheers, Donghui On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:39 AM, LEGRAND Pierre < pierre.legr...@synchrotron-soleil.fr> wrote: > Hi ag

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use XDS programme to process data collected at Q315r detector

2010-12-08 Thread wu donghui
Dear Bosch, Ye, at the moment, I don't know if the geometry of my beamline 13B1 at Taiwan take the same direction as in the script. How can I get this information? Directly ask beamline scientists at Taiwan? or if there is some log files which may contain such information during data collection.

[ccp4bb] Summary of answers to question on "“Blotting paper for plasmid DNA”.

2010-12-08 Thread Parthasarathy Sampathkumar
08 December 2010 Dear All, Below is a summary of answers I obtained for my questions on “Blotting paper for plasmid DNA”. Thank you all very much for your quick response and thanks to CCP4BB. -Partha __ Hideaki Moriyama: How about FTA filter papers (Whatman). https://dgrc.cgb.indi

Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Keitaro Yamashita
Dear Garib, Sorry I'm a little confused. As Eleanor said, Is it true that Refmac doesn't apply vdw restraints if the sum of the atoms occupancies is <= 1? > If you want to deal with translational disorder (e.g. you have a modulated > crystal then there is another way. In my data, there are crys

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria Borgstahl
I've gotten some interesting responses, that I will summarize for the group later, but I thought I should clarify why I asked. I was worrying about this because I have been working out the steps in how to determine the (3+1)D superspace group for a protein crystal. The last step listed in IT vol C

Re: [ccp4bb] Babinet solvent correction [WAS: R-free flag problem]

2010-12-08 Thread Pietro Roversi
Dear all, just to add that Clemens Vonrhein already a few years ago has implemented a procedure similar to the one Simon describes, to automatically fill the cavities in the macromolecule before computing the mask for the solvent, thus avoiding placing solvent where the core of the protein is,

[ccp4bb] Wyckoff positions and protein atoms

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria Borgstahl
My fellow crystallographers, I wanted to take a poll. How many of you have ever had a protein atom on a Wyckoff position (AKA a special position). What kind of molecules have you found at special positions (it would have to contain the symmetry of the special position, right?) I'm thinking it is i

Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
OK, I see. I looked at my log-files, and I also have about 30 restraints for for VDW_symm. Then I looked at another structure with no packing issues, and the corresponding numbers is ~90. What I am saying is that the number of restraints that you have appears to be reasonable. It seems that cla

[ccp4bb] Blotting paper for plasmid DNA

2010-12-08 Thread Parthasarathy Sampathkumar
Dear All, Apologies for non-CCP4 / non-Crystallography question. I planning to spot plasmid DNA on a blotting paper for transport. I do not have any idea what type of blotting paper is used for this purpose. 1. what type of blotting/filter paper should be used? will any type of Whatman paper is

Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Garib N Murshudov
In refmac you can remove vdw interactions between chains using the following command It is an example: vdwr exclude between chains A B or between resdues: vdwr exclude between residues first residue 123 chain A second residue 155 chain B Regards Garib On 8 Dec 2010, at 16:09, Keitaro Yama

Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Garib N Murshudov
At the moment there is no way of telling refmac to ignore clashes between symmetry related atoms. Is there any reason you would want to do that? Perhaps there are other ways of solving the problem you would like to solve. I can add a keyword to force to ignore these clashes if there is sufficien

Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
As far as I know there are no repulsions restraints applied if the sum of the atoms occupancies is <=1.0. If one atom is fully occupied. and another partial then there will be a restraint. Eleanor On 12/08/2010 04:45 PM, Keitaro Yamashita wrote: Dear Ed, These tables were reported by Refmac5

Re: [ccp4bb] superposing (hkl) indexes on diffraction image

2010-12-08 Thread Nicholas Sauter
Keitaro, The Python script we used to make Fig. 1 is contained within the Labelit source code distributed with Phenix, in the file labelit/publications/sublattice/sublattice_Fig1.py The PDF-generating code was never made into a finished product; at present the most important missing element is t

Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Keitaro Yamashita
Dear Ed, These tables were reported by Refmac5: Before refinement, --- Restraint type N restraints Rms Delta Av(Sigma) . VDW repulsions: symmetry: refined_atoms 38 0.232

Re: [ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 01:09 +0900, Keitaro Yamashita wrote: > When I tried to refine using Refmac5, the output told many vdw > repulsions with symmetry mates What do you mean by that? I had a similar situation recently, and there are many records in the log file that say something like this IN

Re: [ccp4bb] superposing (hkl) indexes on diffraction image

2010-12-08 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Keitaro perhaps we should discuss this discreetly off-board! Yes, you can make a picture on the command-line with prediction boxes. I do it frequently. If I take one of our example HypF images (see http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/autostruct/testdata/mosflm/hg_images.tar), then on the command line I

[ccp4bb] Need no clash evaluation among symmetry mates during refinement

2010-12-08 Thread Keitaro Yamashita
Dear all, I'm refining complex structure against X-ray diffraction data with packing disorder. (Some domains overlap with their symmetry mates (4-fold), so their occupancies are set to 0.25) I'd like to know whether refinement programs can exclude any interaction among symmetry mates from geometr

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use XDS programme to process data collected at Q315r detector

2010-12-08 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Thanks Tim, our mails must have crossed :-) @ Donghui: This is the standard JOB card JOB= ALL !XYCORR INIT COLSPOT IDXREF DEFPIX XPLAN INTEGRATE CORRECT what you probably need is after running the first time xds in the directory to go back into your script and change it into JOB=DEFPIX XPLAN INTE

Re: [ccp4bb] superposing (hkl) indexes on diffraction image

2010-12-08 Thread Keitaro Yamashita
Dear Harry, Do you mean that it cannot be done in command line to make picture with prediction boxes? I wrote input file for ipmosflm, by which I had only to click "Predict" to see the predictions on GUI. (I wrote matrix, symmetry and mosaic spread information in the input file!) Or, how can I g

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use XDS programme to process data collected at Q315r detector

2010-12-08 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Donghui, only because XDS shows a warning about an inaccurate solution does not necessarily mean that it did not index your data correctly. Check the file IDXREF.LP (from bottom to top - log-file are usually more interesting that way round). There should be a summary of the refined values a

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use XDS programme to process data collected at Q315r detector

2010-12-08 Thread wu donghui
Marian, It seems that XDS does matter detector type Q315 or Q315r. Same crystals when collected at ESRF Beamline 23-1 using Q315 detector can be processed straightly with the provided script from XDS website and I only need to input ORGX=1536.0 ORGY=1536.0 for indexing or data integration. If XDS

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use XDS programme to process data collected at Q315r detector

2010-12-08 Thread Jürgen Bosch
I don't see the job card in your script. So it will assume job= all and then it is more than normal that xds will complain about the indexing being inaccurate. Look at the idxref.lp file and pick your space group then rerun xds adding job=devpix See what happens Am on my phone will send you my sc

[ccp4bb] CCP4 Study Weekend 2011 - Final week for registration

2010-12-08 Thread ronan . keegan
Dear All, A final reminder about next month's CCP4 Study Weekend entitled "Model Building and Refinement and Validation". The meeting will run from the 5th to the 7th of January and will be held at the University of Warwick in the UK. We have a limited number of places left and the deadline for re

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use XDS programme to process data collected at Q315r detector

2010-12-08 Thread Harry Powell
Hi I think the phi rotation on that beamline is the opposite way round to most other Q315s - so in Mosflm you'd need to have a "DETECTOR REVERSEPHI" line (or click the "reverse direction of spindle rotation" box in iMosflm). I don't know what you'd do in XDS, but I don't think there is anything

Re: [ccp4bb] superposing (hkl) indexes on diffraction image

2010-12-08 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Keitaro You should get the predictions on the images using Mosflm if you supply a matrix & spacegroup. Running the "create_image" part after indexing in iMosflm means that the matrix, symmetry and mosaic spread are all available, so it can be easier doing it this way. There's a very old scr

Re: [ccp4bb] superposing (hkl) indexes on diffraction image

2010-12-08 Thread Keitaro Yamashita
Dear Boaz and Harry, Thank you very much for your suggestions. As pointed out by Harry, I think it is difficult to automatically make a picture of spots labeled with their indexes.. But I have never known that iMosflm could accept the commands of ipmosflm. I'm glad to hear that and it worked ver

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use XDS programme to process data collected at Q315r detector

2010-12-08 Thread wu donghui
Dear all, Thank you very much for your valuable inputs. This is an update based from the suggestions. Following Pierre's suggestion, I installed xdsme ( http://code.google.com/p/xdsme/) and run it. xdsme extracts image header as the below: Image format: adsc Detector type: ADSC 315 D

[ccp4bb] DNA Repair Postdoc in Pearl lab at Sussex

2010-12-08 Thread Laurence Pearl
Postdoctoral Research Fellow Structural Biology of DNA Repair Complexes - Ref: 120 CR-UK DNA Repair Enzymes Group Genome Damage and Stability Centre School of Life Sciences UNIVERSITY OF SUSSEX A Cancer Research UK-funded Postdoctoral position is available immediately in the laboratory

[ccp4bb] FW: Juanma: The Mystery of the Giant Crystals available in Hampton Research

2010-12-08 Thread Bob Cudney
The DVD COMPATIBILITY: Zone 0, compatible with players anywhere in the world. The DVD is available from Hampton Research http://hamptonresearch.com/product_detail.aspx?cid=26&sid=196&pid=606 and Triana http://www.trianatech.com/ Kind Regards, Bob Cudney __

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: Juanma: The Mystery of the Giant Crystals available in Hampton Research

2010-12-08 Thread Mark J van Raaij
In Europe: http://www.trianatech.com/ Mark van Raaij On 3 Dec 2010, at 19:25, Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.) wrote: > FYI, crystal fans. Really worth watching, and with X-mas approaching perfect > gifts for the crystals in your life. BR > > From: JuanMa GarciaRuiz [mailto:juanma.garciar..

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: Juanma: The Mystery of the Giant Crystals available in Hampton Research

2010-12-08 Thread Mark J van Raaij
is this DVD ok or available in Europe, i.e. with the correct regional DVD digital rights format etc.? Mark van Raaij On 3 Dec 2010, at 19:25, Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.) wrote: > FYI, crystal fans. Really worth watching, and with X-mas approaching perfect > gifts for the crystals in y

Re: [ccp4bb] brute force MR

2010-12-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 12/07/2010 09:38 PM, Arnon Lavie wrote: Hi there: The situation: We are facing difficult molecular replacement: we believe we have two molecules in the ASU, but phaser/molrep find only one. Using the electron density calculated using this single molecule, we have manually placed the 2nd molec

Re: [ccp4bb] superposing (hkl) indexes on diffraction image

2010-12-08 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Keitaro Mosflm has been able to output jpegs with predictions for many years - it can also output ppm files (which are not compressed in a lossy way, so probably better for zooming in or converting to other formats). However, you'd need to add the indices to the prediction boxes manually -

Re: [ccp4bb] brute force MR

2010-12-08 Thread Randy Read
Hi, There are a number of possibilities that come to mind: 1. Use the "ROTATE AROUND" option of the brute-force rotation function in Phaser to generate a set of rotation angles similar to your real-space solution, then use each of these for a full translation search. 2. Use my old program BE

Re: [ccp4bb] brute force MR

2010-12-08 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
If the two molecules are related by translational symmetry, at least Phaser is not happy. Since in the second rotation function it removes contribution from the first orientation, if the orientation/rotations of the two molecules in identical, it will fail to see the second rotation applies.