Starting with CakePHP - Guide

2012-09-02 Thread Glauco Custódio
Hi guys, I have made a post in pt-BR teaching how to start with CakePHP, as I know that many brazilian developers follow this group I wanna share it with them: http://blog.glaucocustodio.com/2012/09/01/iniciando-com-framework-cakephp/ Thank you. -- You received this message because you are s

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread b logica
I would like to offer some help with the official docs. I'm not sure how much time i can put in because, like everyone else, i've got a crap-load on my plate already. But the docs do need some serious help. The presentation, for one, makes it difficult to find things. That, and the underlying gene

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread Samuel DeVore
On Feb 8, 2008 2:10 PM, Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't that just like the API, generated from code? > > And it seems to have stopped after 11/7/07 > > I think the plan was that it was going to support the notion of comments like the php.net manual. But like you said it died, which ha

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread Scott Sharkey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I second this. it's a great way to provide the general method and > usage while also providing multiple, more specific examples that often > are more relevant in the real world. ONLY if they are moderated... too many people use the comments as a place to request fr

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread Baz
Isn't that just like the API, generated from code? And it seems to have stopped after 11/7/07 On Feb 8, 2008 2:54 PM, Samuel DeVore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I quite like the system in php.net - you've got the "official" docs > > > pages, then a list of user-submitted relevant comme

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread Samuel DeVore
> > I quite like the system in php.net - you've got the "official" docs > > pages, then a list of user-submitted relevant comments underneath. I > > often find what I'm looking for in the user comments. If these could > > be moderated and other users could vote on them, it might make for a > > fin

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread interactive
I second this. it's a great way to provide the general method and usage while also providing multiple, more specific examples that often are more relevant in the real world. brian Quoting grigri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I quite like the system in php.net - you've got the "official" docs > p

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread grigri
I quite like the system in php.net - you've got the "official" docs pages, then a list of user-submitted relevant comments underneath. I often find what I'm looking for in the user comments. If these could be moderated and other users could vote on them, it might make for a fine system to add to t

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread Baz
Why do we keep comparing to Zend? They got an entire team on doc. alone. The think that our only problem here lies with 1.2. IMO, the current 1.1manual is fine for me (maybe have one complete doc, so you don't have to keep clicking through chapters). The only thing we need right now is to get the

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread Mech7
Hmmm yes all these blogs scattered everywhere really doesn't help anybody... I hope one day cake will have a manual to the standards of ZendFW.. http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/ It's easy to read and has lots of example code... for every part of the framework. --~--~-~--~~

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-08 Thread foxmask
On Feb 6, 6:03 pm, Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, this is the problem I have with the lack of documentation: > > CakePHP was somewhat intimidating for me to get started with. With that > said, I have done a few simple apps, an make-shift CMS that serves my > purpose, and just genera

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread Rajesh
Thanks John for the reply. I really look forward to the new wiki-like application. - Rajesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread John David Anderson (_psychic_)
Rajesh, The new application is very wiki-like. It allows easy contributions (hopefully). It's different in that it has more structure (data is in tree form) and there's an approval/revision process built in. We hope it'll make things easier - hopefully we can have something to show really

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread Rajesh
I ever think that you understood what i wrote. i just tried to explain what would ease the pressure on you guys. If there was a discussion previously on wiki, you could have just said "NO for a wiki" or "Its on the way" but not they way you had said. I just started cakePHP for about 4 months now

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread Baz
Ok ok ok, enough of all this talk Pointing fingers is going to help. I gather that people are busy, due to CakeFest etc. But when that's done, I'm expecting someone to send me a link or something telling me where to go to sign up for stuff. Because I've heard tons of complaints about nobody

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread Chris Hartjes
On Feb 7, 2008 1:03 PM, Rajesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a suggestion, why not open up a WIKI where everyone can > contribute and have a set of people as Moderators, that way sending > emails back and forth for documentation would reduce and also that > would ease the load on the people

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread Dardo Sordi Bogado
I like that one. On Feb 7, 2008 4:03 PM, Rajesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a suggestion, why not open up a WIKI where everyone can > contribute and have a set of people as Moderators, that way sending > emails back and forth for documentation would reduce and also that > would ease the l

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread Rajesh
Just a suggestion, why not open up a WIKI where everyone can contribute and have a set of people as Moderators, that way sending emails back and forth for documentation would reduce and also that would ease the load on the people writing the current documentation. -Rajesh --~--~-~--~~

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread John David Anderson (_psychic_)
On Feb 7, 2008, at 6:17 AM, MonkeyGirl wrote: > > find a better way of doing something and I'll update my guide to do it > that way instead." > > If I was writing official documentation, I'd feel like I was saying > "this is how it's *supposed* to be done, how it *should* be done." I > don't f

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread MonkeyGirl
> By the way, I am Japanese. I think Japanese developers want to read > documents in Japanese. So I want to translate your guide into Japanese. > Can I do that? The way I understand the hacker spirit, everybody's free to share and build upon everyone else's work, which is what makes free software

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread MonkeyGirl
On Feb 6, 5:03 pm, Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm never sure whether I'm doing things the "right" way. To be > honest, all this MVC stuff was brand new to me by the time I started. This > is why I've been hesitant to submit articles to the bakery, for example. > Since a lot of my stuff, can

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread dr. Hannibal Lecter
> Settle down - I think you've completely over-reacted. Nate's comment > wasn't a flame, but yours was. While Nate's opinion might be correct here (up to a point), it is obvious that his people skills are not his forte.. This is not a flame, it is just an opinion. No hard feelings towards Nate,

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread avairet
n ground and write an only official doc? And after that, French, Japanese, German, Spanish and many other Cakers can translate your prose! Sorry for my simple English... Avairet On Feb 3, 7:01 pm, MonkeyGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Just to let you all know, I've f

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-07 Thread Takuo SHIONO
documents in Japanese. So I want to translate your guide into Japanese. Can I do that? Best Wishes, Takuo Shiono MonkeyGirl wrote: > Hi! > > Just to let you all know, I've finally written enough of the CakePHP > guide that I'm working on to warrant putting it online at last.

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-06 Thread asturges
I completely agree with the comment about the API. I realize it is a very technical document with a specific purpose, but a few lines of example code here and there would broaden its reach to many more users. I also agree with the sentiment about wanting to contribute but being unsure of one's qua

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-06 Thread John David Anderson (_psychic_)
On Feb 6, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Baz wrote: > I can't help but feel that I'm not the only one who feels that way. > What would "qualify" one to be able to contribute to the Official > Cake documentation or the Bakery? There is no qualification. New people have the distinct advantage of being a

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-06 Thread Baz
Personally, this is the problem I have with the lack of documentation: CakePHP was somewhat intimidating for me to get started with. With that said, I have done a few simple apps, an make-shift CMS that serves my purpose, and just general fudging around with stuff and trying to get things working.

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-06 Thread Dr. Tarique Sani
On Feb 6, 2008 9:55 PM, phpjoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that only an idiot would be happy to contribute to anything > after such a stupid comment. > > I like CakePHP as a product (otherwise I wouldn't be here), but nate, > you should work on your human skills. Huh! Where did that com

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-06 Thread John David Anderson (_psychic_)
rency, completeness and >> accuracy. I >> don't mean to denigrate your efforts here, but I really think that >> efforts like these often serve to scatter and spread the pool of >> useful information thinner, which just makes it harder to find, which >> makes

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-06 Thread phpjoy
harder to find, which > makes people more frustrated. > > On Feb 3, 1:01 pm, MonkeyGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > Just to let you all know, I've finally written enough of the CakePHP > > guide that I'm working on to warrant putting it o

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-05 Thread luke BAKING barker
theres a book coming for Cake too - by David Golding: http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-CakePHP-Professional-David-Golding/dp/1430209771/ On Feb 5, 10:11 am, accom06 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is great! > > Thanks. > > -- Aaron > > On 5 Feb, 08:58, "Julio Protzek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-05 Thread accom06
This is great! Thanks. -- Aaron On 5 Feb, 08:58, "Julio Protzek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, awsome work Zoe :) > > The official docs is really missing something like this. As Mark said, a > rails book like tutorial is a great idea too. > The lack of good, consistent and updated documenta

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-05 Thread Julio Protzek
Hey, awsome work Zoe :) The official docs is really missing something like this. As Mark said, a rails book like tutorial is a great idea too. The lack of good, consistent and updated documentation is the worst problem for new users. I agree with brian about the 'hidden' 1.2 docs. In the end eve

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread DragonI
Great work John!! Really forward to reading this. On Feb 4, 8:41 pm, "John David Anderson (_psychic_)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 4, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Keith wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 11:48 am, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> John gets little to no help from outside contributor

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread Keith
This is great. Thanks! On Feb 4, 8:41 pm, "John David Anderson (_psychic_)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 4, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Keith wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 11:48 am, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> John gets little to no help from outside contributors, and the only > >> way th

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread John David Anderson (_psychic_)
On Feb 4, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Keith wrote: > > On Feb 4, 11:48 am, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> John gets little to no help from outside contributors, and the only >> way the >> community has seen fit to contribute is with scattered, one-off >> tutorials at various levels of currency, comp

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread Keith
On Feb 4, 11:48 am, nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John gets little to no help from outside contributors, and the only way the > community has seen fit to contribute is with scattered, one-off > tutorials at various levels of currency, completeness and accuracy. I agree with Nate here. I put

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread John David Anderson (_psychic_)
On Feb 4, 2008, at 10:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think it's a good start Zoe. > > I disagree with Nate on one point, I think the more examples and > tutorials on Cake the better, regardless of where they exist. CakePHP > desperately needs better documentation and once it has it, it's

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread interactive
efforts here, but I really think that > efforts like these often serve to scatter and spread the pool of > useful information thinner, which just makes it harder to find, which > makes people more frustrated. > > On Feb 3, 1:01 pm, MonkeyGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread nate
 pm, MonkeyGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Just to let you all know, I've finally written enough of the CakePHP > guide that I'm working on to warrant putting it online at last. It's > available here: > > http://cakephp.bytenoise.co.uk/ >

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread Chris Hartjes
On Feb 4, 2008 11:13 AM, hellfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a suggestion, it would be nice if someone wrote in that manual > ways to configure different databases. I'm having a lot of trouble > using SQL Server 2005 and it's been hard to find any documentation. > > cheers. When you say

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread hellfish
.com/ > > Regards, > > Keith > > On Feb 3, 1:01 pm, MonkeyGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi! > > > Just to let you all know, I've finally written enough of the CakePHP > > guide that I'm working on to warrant putting it online at las

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread Keith
Keith On Feb 3, 1:01 pm, MonkeyGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Just to let you all know, I've finally written enough of the CakePHP > guide that I'm working on to warrant putting it online at last. It's > available here: > > http://cakephp.byteno

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3, 7:01 pm, MonkeyGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Just to let you all know, I've finally written enough of the CakePHP > guide that I'm working on to warrant putting it online at last. It's > available here: > > http://cakephp.bytenoise.co.uk

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-03 Thread Daniel Hofstetter
Hi Zoe, It would be cool if there is a way to subscribe to this guide, so you automatically get notified if there is an update. Anyway, good luck with this project! -- Daniel Hofstetter http://cakebaker.42dh.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message bec

Re: CakePHP guide

2008-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
have too many good documents. Thanks again and good luck with this initiative. Ian. On Feb 3, 12:01 pm, MonkeyGirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > Just to let you all know, I've finally written enough of the CakePHP > guide that I'm working on to warrant put

CakePHP guide

2008-02-03 Thread MonkeyGirl
Hi! Just to let you all know, I've finally written enough of the CakePHP guide that I'm working on to warrant putting it online at last. It's available here: http://cakephp.bytenoise.co.uk/ It's only the first three chapters so far, but hopefully I should have a lot more