Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2011-01-06 Thread Shane Brandes
I think the rule is thus. Clefs shall have no effect on accidentals and therefore notes after the clef change are altered by courtesy accidentals for ease of legibility or where the note occurs in a different octave which requires, in strict notation, its own accidental. On the reasoning that they,

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2011-01-05 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 15:44:22 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: > Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 15:14:05 schrieb David Kastrup: > > Reinhold Kainhofer writes: > > > I would be great, though, if anyone can find a published example of > > > such a situation (most likely in e.g. cello/ba

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2011-01-04 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 4 January 2011 00:35, James Bailey wrote: > > It seems, at least according to section 1.1.3 on accidentals, that this is > intended behavior: > default > > This is the default typesetting behavior. It corresponds to > eighteenth-century common practice: accidentals are remembered to the end of

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2011-01-03 Thread James Bailey
On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > Hi! > > This has been reported on the French user mailing list. > > In the following code the c-natural is not printed if there is a clef > change in the middle of the measure. > > \relative c' { > \clef bass cis2 c > \clef tenor cis2 \cl

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Michael Ellis wrote: > The Dover Edition of the Beethoven Sonatas, a reproduction of the 1923 > Universal Edition (H. Schenker, ed.) has the attached in opus 27, no 2, > second movement (Presto Agitato) mm 54,55. > > In the left hand of mm 54, the clef changes 4 ti

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 15:14:05 schrieb David Kastrup: > Reinhold Kainhofer writes: > > I would be great, though, if anyone can find a published example of such > > a situation (most likely in e.g. cello/bassoon parts/scores, which > > frequently switch between bass and tenor clef). >

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread James Bailey
g-lilypond" ; "lilypond-user" > > Cc: "Philhar" > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:53 AM > Subject: Accidental and clef change issue > > > Hi! > > This has been reported on the French user mailing list. > > In the following code

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > "David Kastrup" wrote in message > news:87aajqowbn@lola.goethe.zz... >> "Phil Holmes" writes: >> >>> >>> Apologies. As you're probably aware, I'm a Windows man, and some >>> postings don't quote properly using my mailreader. >> >> I am sure that there are sensible co

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Phil Holmes
"David Kastrup" wrote in message news:87aajqowbn@lola.goethe.zz... "Phil Holmes" writes: "David Kastrup" wrote in message news:87ei92oxo3@lola.goethe.zz... "Phil Holmes" writes: \relative c' { \clef bass cis2 c \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c % natural is not printed!! \clef ba

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer writes: > Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 14:23:14 schrieb Phil Holmes: >> "David Kastrup" wrote in message >> > I don't think it is correct. If you set the above with \key g\major, >> > you will notice that the key signature is _not_ repeated with a clef >> > change. So

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Dienstag, 28. Dezember 2010, um 14:23:14 schrieb Phil Holmes: > "David Kastrup" wrote in message > > I don't think it is correct. If you set the above with \key g\major, > > you will notice that the key signature is _not_ repeated with a clef > > change. So there is no visual or logical reaso

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > "David Kastrup" wrote in message > news:87ei92oxo3@lola.goethe.zz... >> "Phil Holmes" writes: >> >>> \relative c' { >>> \clef bass cis2 c >>> \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c % natural is not printed!! >>> \clef bass cis2 \clef tenor c >>> } >> >> >> Could you _plea

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Phil Holmes
"David Kastrup" wrote in message news:87ei92oxo3@lola.goethe.zz... "Phil Holmes" writes: \relative c' { \clef bass cis2 c \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c % natural is not printed!! \clef bass cis2 \clef tenor c } Could you _please_ _never_ write an answer or comment in the _signature

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > \relative c' { > \clef bass cis2 c > \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c % natural is not printed!! > \clef bass cis2 \clef tenor c > } Could you _please_ _never_ write an answer or comment in the _signature_ of the original posting? Sensible mailreaders don't quote the s

Re: Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Phil Holmes
Hello, - Original Message - From: "Xavier Scheuer" To: "bug-lilypond" ; "lilypond-user" Cc: "Philhar" Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: Accidental and clef change issue Hi! This has been reported on the French user ma

Accidental and clef change issue

2010-12-28 Thread Xavier Scheuer
Hi! This has been reported on the French user mailing list. In the following code the c-natural is not printed if there is a clef change in the middle of the measure. \relative c' { \clef bass cis2 c \clef tenor cis2 \clef bass c % natural is not printed!! \clef bass cis2 \clef tenor c }