Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michal Suchanek, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 16:34:42 +0100, a écrit : > On 17/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Arne Babenhauserheide, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 12:26:30 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > > As for automatically building live CDs and/or qemu images, this would be > > > > very useful

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 18/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michal Suchanek, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 16:34:42 +0100, a écrit : > > > On 17/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Arne Babenhauserheide, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 12:26:30 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > > > > As for automatically

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michal Suchanek, le Tue 18 Mar 2008 13:15:27 +0100, a écrit : > > Debian doesn't wait for non-official architectures to catch up. > > They do delete Hurd packages when there are no new ones to replace > them? No, but they do delete _all packages when there are new ones to replace them, even if th

Package installability and testing (was: Re: GSoC application deadline passed)

2008-03-18 Thread Michael Banck
(CCing debian-hurd as this is really Debian-specific now) On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 01:15:27PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote: > On 18/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michal Suchanek, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 16:34:42 +0100, a écrit : > > > > > On 17/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread Philip Charles
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Michal Suchanek wrote: > On 18/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michal Suchanek, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 16:34:42 +0100, a écrit : > > > On 17/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Arne Babenhauserheide, le Mon 17 Mar 2008 12:26:3

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | It takes me 30-50 hours to produce a set. The | development over this time has been considerable, from one partialy | filled CD (with dependency checking disabled) to K15 and its 17 images. \-- Is there any do

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread Michal Suchanek
On 18/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michal Suchanek, le Tue 18 Mar 2008 13:15:27 +0100, a écrit : > > > > Debian doesn't wait for non-official architectures to catch up. > > > > They do delete Hurd packages when there are no new ones to replace > > them? > > > No, but the

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michal Suchanek, le Tue 18 Mar 2008 17:01:21 +0100, a écrit : > > > Plus keep all versions of packages on some "hurd-core" list until > > > somebody manually marks a newer version as verified working. > > > > > > It's not necessarily so simple, you need to check all the rdeps etc. > > But checki

Re: accepted to SoC

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 01:48:54AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:16:04PM +, James Youngman wrote: > > Great news. I also note that gEDA, GCC and Hurd were also > > accepted. > > Indeed GNU Hurd has been accepted. While at it (sorry for misusing this thread

Re: Thread model (was: Ext2 superblock fault)

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:41:01AM +, Samuel Thibault wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED], le Sun 16 Mar 2008 08:52:56 +0100, a écrit : > > What makes me wonder is, how can it happen in the first place that > > so many requests are generated before the superblock is requested > > during handling o

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:52:17AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:48:25AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It's just really bad luck, you absence at this very time... You are > > indeed the one hoped to get most help from. If I had known about this > > before, I

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi again, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:37:04AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > El Sunday, 16 de March de 2008 18:44:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > escribió: > > (Oh, by the way, before you accuse me of arrogance: I consider my > > own person mostly useless myself.) > > The GSoC applications doesn't

Re: Wiki slowness

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 03:11:21PM +0100, Carl Fredrik Hammar wrote: > Ikiwiki seems to recompile markdown to html after every change. If it > unnecessarily recompiles the *entire* wiki after each edit It doesn't. It first checks which files have changed, and then recompiles only the affect

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:13:01AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > It's just darn hard to write a somewhat funny mail while being really > annoyed, but not trying is worse, I think. > > And I think you good a great job at it. Thanks :-) > I think one reason, why the contribution wa

Server overriding; chroot (was: Google Summer of Code participation)

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 12:47:23AM +0800, Wei Shen wrote: > I read the project ideas list, and found "server overriding mechanism" > is there. I have once tried investigating this issue, but failed to > continue at last. Still, I wonder whether I should submit my > modification to Glibc for a

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:26:30PM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > El Sunday, 16 de March de 2008 20:55:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > escribió: > > > When we had the HURD in my informatics class, one task was to find > > > out information about the HURD, and as I searched for information > > >

Tracking development status (was: GSoC application deadline passed)

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:37:56AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > El Friday, 14 de March de 2008 16:23:34 Michael Banck escribió: > Else, a GNU Hurd news aggregator might be useful. > > There are many Hurd groups, so maybe an RSS feed which aggregates all > rss feeds from the differe

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:48:50AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:03:30AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Oh, and yes: Amazingly, I actually managed to hand in my^H^Hour > > application before the deadline. What is to be done now is waiting to > > see whether I

Re: Thread model

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:50:31AM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote: > At Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:01:22 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:10:17PM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote: > > > > using some kind of continuation mechanism: Have a limited number > > > > of threads

Re: Thread model

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:00:02PM -0400, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 08:25 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > We could move the servers one by one -- starting with the disk > > filesystems, as this is where the issues are manifesting most... > > But this is still no

Re: Thread model

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:47:40AM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote: > At Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:21:19 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 05:12:03PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > As for the threading model, more than one kernel thread per real > > > CPU doesn't see

Automated releases (was: GSoC application deadline passed)

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 04:34:42PM +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote: > On 17/03/2008, Samuel Thibault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem is that there is no easy automatic process: missing > > dependencies have to be found in the archive, etc. > > > What kind of archive? Shouldn't Debian

Re: Developer Blog

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:20:38AM +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > How many people would write into that blog? A couple, I presume. > Would that Blog become the main way of information about the Hurd? Certainly not. But it would probably become the main vehicle for conveying *topic

Re: Developer Blog

2008-03-18 Thread olafBuddenhagen
Hi, On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 01:13:12AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > Who actually is writing/blogging about the Hurd? I think you already asked that once. As you know, I'm blogging about mostly Hurd-related topics, but not regularily, and it's rather "philosophical" stuff anyways, not materia

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread Philip Charles
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > --- On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Philip Charles > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | It takes me 30-50 hours to produce a set. The > | development over this time has been considerable, from one partialy > | filled CD (with dependency

Re: GSoC application deadline passed

2008-03-18 Thread Philip Charles
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But do we *want* to preserve that terrible state?... > > Sooner or later we will *have* to release -- and the longer we wait, > the stronger the pressure to come up with something ground breaking. It > get's worse and worse. We need to break

Re: Tracking development status (was: GSoC application deadline passed)

2008-03-18 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit [EMAIL PROTECTED] dies 18/03/2008 hora 12:31: > Well, the idea of an aggregator was brought up before. But I actually > like the idea of a shared blog more. The aggregator has less administraive burden and more flexibility. You don't have to manage accounts and access to a shared ressource

Building the CDs (was Re: GSoC application deadline passed)

2008-03-18 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Philip Charles dies 19/03/2008 hora 12:51: > There is only one thing worse than my documentation, and that is my > code. Could you make both available? Curiously, Pierre -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP 0xD9D50D8A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Automated releases (was: GSoC application deadline passed)

2008-03-18 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit [EMAIL PROTECTED] dies 18/03/2008 hora 16:03: > As Michael pointed out, that would be pretty useful, but probably > quite some work. Aren't all the automated tools for that already made? Couldn't we just use britney with our own settings? Curiously, Pierre -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP 0x

Re: Server overriding; chroot (was: Google Summer of Code participation)

2008-03-18 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit [EMAIL PROTECTED] dies 18/03/2008 hora 16:38: > Now the problem is that a chrooted process can create a passive > translator. When this translated node is accessed, the translator > process currently won't be started in the context of the chrooted > process, but in that of the normal global

Re: Server overriding; chroot (was: Google Summer of Code participation)

2008-03-18 Thread Wei Shen
Hi, On 3/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I also find "secure chroot implementation" in the list. IMHO, the > > unsafty of chroot is not caused by passive translator. In fact, > > currently chroot is implemented totally at client side by changing the > > INIT_PORT_CRDIR po