Re: [PATCH] adding in serverboot v2 draft RFC.

2024-05-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
he > reasoning behind it. Not that "Serverboot V2" is a working name. We > have yet to find a better name for it. > --- > hurd/bootstrap.mdwn | 7 + > hurd/what_is_an_os_bootstrap.mdwn | 24 + > open_issues/serverbootv2.mdwn | 899 +

[PATCH] adding in serverboot v2 draft RFC.

2024-05-26 Thread jbra...@dismail.de
open_issues/serverbootv2 is meant to inline the content. * open_issues/serverbootv2.mdwn: Sergey proposed this new bootstrap for the Hurd. This is a draft RFC document that explains the reasoning behind it. Not that "Serverboot V2" is a working name. We have yet to find a better name for it.

Re: [PATCH 9/9] Remove `serverboot'; fix "make dist" in `mach-defpager'

2011-04-05 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! I can confirm that ‘make dist’ works like a charm: http://hydra.nixos.org/job/gnu/hurd-master/tarball The latest tarball can be obtained from: http://hydra.nixos.org/job/gnu/hurd-master/tarball/latest Thanks, Ludo’.

Re: [PATCH 9/9] Remove `serverboot'; fix "make dist" in `mach-defpager'

2011-04-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Ludovic Courtès, le Sat 17 Jul 2010 20:21:55 +0200, a écrit : > Comments? Applied after update, thanks! Samuel

Re: [PATCH 9/9] Remove `serverboot'; fix "make dist" in `mach-defpager'

2011-03-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ludovic Courtès, le Wed 23 Mar 2011 19:24:18 +0100, a écrit : > l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > > This is the potentially controversial patch. :-) > > > > It removes serverboot, which is no longer built since commit > > dfa4d617a012dd46d3849e0d2538a4b7890c1306

Re: [PATCH 9/9] Remove `serverboot'; fix "make dist" in `mach-defpager'

2011-03-23 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hello! l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > This is the potentially controversial patch. :-) > > It removes serverboot, which is no longer built since commit > dfa4d617a012dd46d3849e0d2538a4b7890c1306 (Sept. 2004), and moves the > files that are actually used by ‘mach-def

How about dropping serverboot completely? [Was: Remove `serverboot'; fix "make dist" in `mach-defpager']

2010-08-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, To fix make dist, instead of fixing serverboot, Ludovic proposes to just at last drop it. Thoughts? Samuel Ludovic Courtès, le Sat 17 Jul 2010 20:21:55 +0200, a écrit : > This is the potentially controversial patch. :-) > > It removes serverboot, which is no longer built sin

Re: Serverboot, let it die...

2004-09-10 Thread Roland McGrath
> Please let serverboot die a silent death, nobody should be using it. Dead. > Index: serverboot/ChangeLog > 2004-09-03 Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Makefile (target): Variable removed. That's

Re: Serverboot, let it die...

2004-09-10 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
> Please let serverboot die a silent death, nobody should be using > it. Dead. Thanks! > Index: serverboot/ChangeLog > 2004-09-03 Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >* Makefile (target): Variable removed. That's a silly way to

Serverboot, let it die...

2004-09-03 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Please let serverboot die a silent death, nobody should be using it. Index: serverboot/ChangeLog 2004-09-03 Alfred M. Szmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Makefile (target): Variable removed. Index: serverboot/Makefile =

Re: Buffer freed too early in serverboot

2003-01-04 Thread Roland McGrath
I put some changes into boot/boot_script.c that might fix this. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Buffer freed too early in serverboot

2003-01-04 Thread Peter Bruin
Hi, In serverboot/bootstrap.c, the buffer allocated for the configuration file is freed after the file is parsed. However, the parsing code in boot/boot_script.c puts pointers to the buffer in the `cmds' variables, which are used during execution of the script. So either boot.c should mak

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Philip Charles
On 19 Dec 2002, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > "Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Corking. > > > >What's that mean? > > > > >From WordNet (r) 1.7 [wn]: > > > > corking > >adj : (informal) very good; "a bully pulpit"; "a neat sports car"; > > "had a

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
> corking >adj : (informal) very good; "a bully pulpit"; "a neat sports car"; > "had a great time at the party"; "you look simply > smashing" [syn: {bang-up}, {bully}, {cracking}, {dandy}, > {great}, {groovy}, {keen}, {neat}, {nifty},

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Corking. > >What's that mean? > > >From WordNet (r) 1.7 [wn]: > > corking >adj : (informal) very good; "a bully pulpit"; "a neat sports car"; > "had a great time at the party"; "you look simply > smash

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
> Corking. What's that mean? >From WordNet (r) 1.7 [wn]: corking adj : (informal) very good; "a bully pulpit"; "a neat sports car"; "had a great time at the party"; "you look simply smashing" [syn: {bang-up}, {bully}, {cracking}, {dandy}, {g

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Still, is the unused code somehow filtered out from the source tree >> when a release is made? > >See hurd/Makefile. > > Corking. What's that mean? ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
> Still, is the unused code somehow filtered out from the source tree > when a release is made? See hurd/Makefile. Corking. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The problem with having them still in the tree is that it's not obvious >> at a quick glance which tools are pieces aer still in use and worth >> learning when you're a new person. As an example, when James Morrison >> was doing pa

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 09:08:59PM +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > Still, is the unused code somehow filtered out from the source tree > when a release is made? With automake yes. 'make dist' only pulls in the files that are actively referenced in the make files. That is, incidentally, what I'

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
> The problem with having them still in the tree is that it's not obvious > at a quick glance which tools are pieces aer still in use and worth > learning when you're a new person. As an example, when James Morrison > was doing patch reviews and sending a patch nearly every week a freq

Re: serverboot

2002-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Jeff Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The problem with having them still in the tree is that it's not obvious > at a quick glance which tools are pieces aer still in use and worth > learning when you're a new person. As an example, when James Morrison > was doing patch reviews and sending a p

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 09:58:53AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > "Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >ufs-fsck is fsck for ufs, I belive that bsdfsck is the same thing only > >rewritten. > > > > I mean the other way of course, ufs-fsck is a rewritten version of > > b

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 09:58:06AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Also, is there a reason to keep bsdfsck, defpager and libtreefs > > around? About libtreefs I'm a bit unsure, since it might be useful. > > But I doubt this since it hasn't been touched since 1996 (there is not > > even a C

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Why do you want to delete things like this? Because I feel like it. They are in-progress, it's in the CVS source, which is the right place for things like that. Of course they are not in the release, but that's a separate question. Am I wrong to say that libtreefs is obsolete, dead

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >ufs-fsck is fsck for ufs, I belive that bsdfsck is the same thing only >rewritten. > > I mean the other way of course, ufs-fsck is a rewritten version of > bsdfsck. Please correct me if this _not_ the case. You are correct. bsdfsck is the

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, is there a reason to keep bsdfsck, defpager and libtreefs > around? About libtreefs I'm a bit unsure, since it might be useful. > But I doubt this since it hasn't been touched since 1996 (there is not > even a ChangeLog). Why do you want to

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
ufs-fsck is fsck for ufs, I belive that bsdfsck is the same thing only rewritten. I mean the other way of course, ufs-fsck is a rewritten version of bsdfsck. Please correct me if this _not_ the case. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] h

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Is bsdfsck just fsck for ufs? If yes, it should probably be renamed for consistency. ufs-fsck is fsck for ufs, I belive that bsdfsck is the same thing only rewritten. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listin

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 03:50, M. Gerards wrote: > > Also, is there a reason to keep bsdfsck, defpager and libtreefs > > around? About libtreefs I'm a bit unsure, since it might be useful. > > But I doubt this since it hasn't been touched since 1996 (there is not > > even a ChangeLog). Is bsdfsck j

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Why do you want to remove bsdfsck? bsdfsck is duplicate code of ufs-fsck AFAICS. Can someone please explain what libtreefs does, why it exists and what is missing? I think most people (including me) don't have an idea. It is (was) a library for tree structured translators, it exists

Re: serverboot

2002-12-18 Thread M. Gerards
> Also, is there a reason to keep bsdfsck, defpager and libtreefs > around? About libtreefs I'm a bit unsure, since it might be useful. > But I doubt this since it hasn't been touched since 1996 (there is not > even a ChangeLog). Why do you want to remove bsdfsck? I think it will be used more oft

Re: serverboot

2002-12-17 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Convenience for the hackers who really hack is one of the most persuasive arguments on any subject in the project. GRUB is great for multiboot support and nothing else is so great. Other things are better in other ways and not so great for multiboot support. Can't you pass the module

Re: serverboot

2002-12-17 Thread Philip Charles
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: > Is anyone using serverboot anymore? If not, then it could maybe be > removed. FYI, the severboot option was removed from the GRUB floppy image distributed with the K1 image. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedi

Re: serverboot

2002-12-17 Thread Roland McGrath
> Your arument about not removing serverboot is to have only one thing > to paste? Please, you can do better. If that was the case we could > skip using the multiboot stuff in grub and use serverboot instead > since it is less to type or whatever. Convenience for the hackers who re

Re: serverboot

2002-12-17 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
serverboot is still handy if you're not using GRUB, but e.g. mkmbimage with netboot or mklinuximage or suchlike (to have only one thing to paste in there). Your arument about not removing serverboot is to have only one thing to paste? Please, you can do better. If that was the ca

Re: serverboot

2002-12-17 Thread Roland McGrath
> Is anyone using serverboot anymore? If not, then it could maybe be > removed. serverboot is still handy if you're not using GRUB, but e.g. mkmbimage with netboot or mklinuximage or suchlike (to have only one thing to paste in there). _

serverboot

2002-12-17 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Is anyone using serverboot anymore? If not, then it could maybe be removed. Also, is there a reason to keep bsdfsck, defpager and libtreefs around? About libtreefs I'm a bit unsure, since it might be useful. But I doubt this since it hasn't been touched since 1996 (there is not even a

Re: mach-defpager/serverboot changes (tmpfs too)

2002-03-24 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 06:53:09PM -0800, Jeff Bailey wrote: > On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 08:38:37PM -0500, Roland McGrath wrote: > > > I don't expect that anyone is still using serverboot since we've had > > boot script support in the kernel for a while now. > >

Re: mach-defpager/serverboot changes (tmpfs too)

2002-03-23 Thread Neal H Walfield
> I have been actively recommending serverboot over the bootscript > method. In almost all cases where people show up on irc with boot > problems, I tell them to switch to serverboot and it solves the > problems. Of the installations that I have done, I have had no problems.

serverboot

2002-03-23 Thread Roland McGrath
> I have been actively recommending serverboot over the bootscript > method. In almost all cases where people show up on irc with boot > problems, I tell them to switch to serverboot and it solves the > problems. I wish I'd known this. We've had positive reports about ke

Re: mach-defpager/serverboot changes (tmpfs too)

2002-03-23 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 08:38:37PM -0500, Roland McGrath wrote: > I don't expect that anyone is still using serverboot since we've had > boot script support in the kernel for a while now. I have been actively recommending serverboot over the bootscript method. In almost all ca

mach-defpager/serverboot changes (tmpfs too)

2002-03-23 Thread Roland McGrath
I have just checked in changes that excise the default pager functionality from serverboot. The $(paging-file) et al boot script functions are still recognized, but now just print a message telling you to use swapon. The magic "die $(serverboot)" line is ignored completely, and serv

Re: Getting rid of serverboot. Finally.

2001-10-07 Thread Neal H Walfield
Roland McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> In boot, we incorrectly setup the default kernel_command_line. > > Eh? Isn't the kernel's name part of a real kernel command line? This is correct. Thus, we are looking at a different bug; in the general case, we only pass options to init when usin

Re: Getting rid of serverboot. Finally.

2001-10-07 Thread Roland McGrath
> There was a problem with the output. Well then you should have described it in your bug report! > I think that the problem what I was seeing is that the strings are > generally longer than 80 characters. Thus, they wrap onto the next > line. In fact, the first module that is loaded on my sys

Re: Getting rid of serverboot. Finally.

2001-10-07 Thread Neal H Walfield
>> This patch also corrects the output: I have no clue what the padding with >> spaces was all about, however, it seems to me to be completely >> superfluous; the output is now consistent with other messages. > > Was there a problem with the output, or is this an aesthetic change? There was a p

Re: Getting rid of serverboot. Finally.

2001-10-07 Thread Roland McGrath
> In boot, we incorrectly setup the default kernel_command_line. Eh? Isn't the kernel's name part of a real kernel command line? ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: Getting rid of serverboot. Finally.

2001-10-07 Thread Roland McGrath
> I have confirmed that the following combinations, first with your code > and then, with my new patches, work: Thanks! > > [subhurd] new hurd's boot -> old boot script -> old hurd > > Check. However, I fail to see why we even want to be compatible here; My rationale was that one might want t

Re: Getting rid of serverboot. Finally.

2001-10-07 Thread Neal H Walfield
I have confirmed that the following combinations, first with your code and then, with my new patches, work: > new gnumach -> new hurd's serverboot -> new hurd Check. > new gnumach -> old hurd's serverboot -> old hurd Check. > old gnumach -> new hurd'

Re: Getting rid of serverboot

2001-09-30 Thread Roland McGrath
> Can you check if trailing spaces are correctly stripped? They were not. I just checked in a fix for that. Please test it. ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-hurd

Re: Getting rid of serverboot

2001-09-30 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 05:13:34AM -0400, Roland McGrath wrote: > The first thing to test with the new kernel is that an old-style boot still > works. It checks if there is exactly one multiboot module and its module > string contains no spaces (i.e. "/boot/serverboot"), an