Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-30 Thread Farid Hajji
> > Really? Here's an example where this is not true (anymore?). > > I was referring to this [1] implementation which makes a minimal use > of BSD features -- at least when I ported it. > > [1] http://www.awfulhak.org/ppp.html Okay, that clarifies a lot of things ;-) Regards, -Farid. -- Fari

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-23 Thread Neal H Walfield
> Really? Here's an example where this is not true (anymore?). I was referring to this [1] implementation which makes a minimal use of BSD features -- at least when I ported it. [1] http://www.awfulhak.org/ppp.html ___ Bug-hurd mailing list [EMAIL PRO

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-23 Thread Neal H Walfield
> And the tunnel device has all the semantics from the BSD tunnel device, > because that was my reference implementation at that time. The only semantic that um-pppd relies on with respect to the tunnel device is that it acts like a bidirectional fifo. ___

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-23 Thread Farid Hajji
> Really? Here's an example where this is not true (anymore?). In > FreeBSD 4.5RC (-STABLE), last cvsupped 01/20/2001: ^ Of course, I meant 01/20/2002 ;-) Sorry about the confusion. -Farid. -- Farid Hajji -- Unix Systems and Network Admin | P

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-23 Thread Farid Hajji
> > BTW, a BSD-based pfinet is highly desired, mainly because of > > um-pppd. Recent changes in the FreeBSD Net/3 (especially the > > netgraph(4) infrastructure [e.g. ng_pppoe], KAME, ...) influenced > > 'ppp' so much, that it would be very hard to synchronize FreeBSD ppp > > with the Hurd versio

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-23 Thread Farid Hajji
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 05:12:30PM -0500, Neal H Walfield wrote: > > Wrong. The only reliance that um-pppd has on pfinet is a tunnel > > device; everything else is pretty much standard. > > And the tunnel device has all the semantics from the BSD tunnel device, > because that was my reference

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-14 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
> "Farid" == Farid Hajji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Farid> Look at netgraph(4) in FreeBSD: Farid> Farid> http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=netgraph&apropos=0&sektion=4&manpath=FreeBSD+4.4-stable&format=html Farid> It looks like an interesting and probably portable w

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-14 Thread Farid Hajji
> > > 1). I propose to move all linux code out of pfinet and make separated > > > library with linux ip stack. > > > > This is not a horrible idea, and I once thought of doing the same > > thing myself. > > What would be *really* nice is a nice library with nice well-defined > and reasonably s

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-13 Thread Niels Möller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > Peter Novodvorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 1). I propose to move all linux code out of pfinet and make separated > > library with linux ip stack. > > This is not a horrible idea, and I once thought of doing the same > thing myself.

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Peter Novodvorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So what can be done -- is to make some good interface in this > library. It should generic enough for being applied to BSD ip stack > too. I don't think you understood what I wrote. The details of what the Linux network stack expects from the rest

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-12 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
Hello, Jeroen! > "Jeroen" == Jeroen Dekkers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jeroen> On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 01:42:46AM +0300, Peter Jeroen> Novodvorsky wrote: >> I've read Protocol Service Decomposition for High-Performance >> Networking and it influenced on me much. I think it r

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-12 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
Hi, Thomas! > "Thomas" == Thomas Bushnell, BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> Peter Novodvorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> 1). I propose to move all linux code out of pfinet and make >> separated library with linux ip stack. Thomas> This is not a horrible idea, and

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-12 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 01:42:46AM +0300, Peter Novodvorsky wrote: > I've read Protocol Service Decomposition for High-Performance > Networking and it influenced on me much. I think it reasonable idea to > insert a thin network interfaces code into kernel (actually what > linux-src/net/core is). B

Re: PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Peter Novodvorsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1). I propose to move all linux code out of pfinet and make separated > library with linux ip stack. This is not a horrible idea, and I once thought of doing the same thing myself. However, two things block the idea: 1) The amount of Hurd speci

PROPOSAL: making liblinux_net library

2002-01-12 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
Hello! I've read Protocol Service Decomposition for High-Performance Networking and it influenced on me much. I think it reasonable idea to insert a thin network interfaces code into kernel (actually what linux-src/net/core is). But it is far goal and somebody might not accept it. One of ideas i