Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Dave Mielke writes: > [quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2015/11/13 at 11:26 +0200] >>BRLTTY nowadays displays colour names incorrectly with the Describe Character >>command. > Could you please test this with the latest code to see if it's been resolved? It seems to work now. I wrote a small

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Aura Kelloniemi, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 10:23:33 +0200, wrote: > I could not get the blink attribute working on Linux console. Traditionally it > changed the background colour to be bright, as the bold attribute does for the > foreground colour. The background color can not be made bright, only the fo

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Aura Kelloniemi on 2015/11/17 at 10:23 +0200] >I could not get the blink attribute working on Linux console. Traditionally it >changed the background colour to be bright, as the bold attribute does for the >foreground colour. I know what you mean, but your wording may be a bit co

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 10:07:37 +0100, wrote: > Aura Kelloniemi, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 10:23:33 +0200, wrote: > > I could not get the blink attribute working on Linux console. Traditionally > > it > > changed the background colour to be bright, as the bold attribute does for > > the > >

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Samuel Thibault writes: > Samuel Thibault, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 10:07:37 +0100, wrote: >> Aura Kelloniemi, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 10:23:33 +0200, wrote: >> > I could not get the blink attribute working on Linux console. >> > Traditionally it >> > changed the background colour to be bright, as the bold

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Aura Kelloniemi, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 14:58:22 +0200, wrote: > Samuel Thibault writes: > > Samuel Thibault, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 10:07:37 +0100, wrote: > >> Aura Kelloniemi, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 10:23:33 +0200, wrote: > >> > I could not get the blink attribute working on Linux console. > >> > Traditio

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Shérab
Samuel Thibault (2015/11/17 14:06 +0100): > The problem is that these userland-driven terminals don't provide the > screen output. Ideally we'd manage to gather the people implementing > them, and get to define a common interface to access the screen > output. Isn't AT-SPI good enough for that? Or

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Shérab, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 15:04:54 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault (2015/11/17 14:06 +0100): > > The problem is that these userland-driven terminals don't provide the > > screen output. Ideally we'd manage to gather the people implementing > > them, and get to define a common interface to access t

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Shérab
Samuel Thibault (2015/11/17 15:15 +0100): > It is heavy for performance (at *best* thousands of requests > per second), and it is really not suited to getting terminal > information. The AccessibleTerminal interface has never been actually > implemented. > > Generally speaking, the way AT-SPI work

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Shérab, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 15:26:25 +0100, wrote: > I was just wondering whether it wouldn't e > possible to improve r enrich AT-SPI to make it more suitable for > terminals, my concern being to avoid having too many standards and APIs > around. But if you think it's best to just have another API b

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Mario Lang
Samuel Thibault writes: > Shérab, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 15:04:54 +0100, wrote: >> Samuel Thibault (2015/11/17 14:06 +0100): >> > The problem is that these userland-driven terminals don't provide the >> > screen output. Ideally we'd manage to gather the people implementing >> > them, and get to defin

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by Mario Lang on 2015/11/17 at 22:11 +0100] >This is a very old open problem. I remember we agreed long ago on doing >it similar to how Screen already does it (via the patch), but in a >"standardized" way, such that the *same* sort of SHM layout could be >used for several different

[BRLTTY] a couple of brltty problems with humanware brailliant bi 40

2015-11-17 Thread covici
Hi. I have discovered since the update to the Humanware brailliant bi 40, I am getting no keyboard response with brltty -- I can use the four keys on the front, but the keyboard is dead. So I tried to do a git pull to see if that would help, but when I ran configure it said error cannot find Prog

Re: [BRLTTY] a couple of brltty problems with humanware brailliant bi 40

2015-11-17 Thread Shérab
Hi, You should probably run ./autogen before running ./configure. Shérab. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@mielke.cc For general information, go to: http://mielke.cc/mailman/listinfo/brl

Re: [BRLTTY] a couple of brltty problems with humanware brailliant bi 40

2015-11-17 Thread Bram Duvigneau
Hi, Recent firmware versions have the ability to turn the braille keyboard off. Please check in the Brailliant settings (double press power button) if it is enabled. Bram On 17-11-2015 21:58, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Hi. I have discovered since the update to the Humanware brailliant bi > 4

Re: [BRLTTY] a couple of brltty problems with humanware brailliant bi 40

2015-11-17 Thread covici
hmmm, strange but there is one, since there was a ./configure I never thought to run autogen, but I will try that. Seems to have worked -- thanks. But I still have no keyboard at all. Shérab wrote: > Hi, > > You should probably run > ./autogen > before running ./configure. > > Shérab. > _

Re: [BRLTTY] a couple of brltty problems with humanware brailliant bi 40

2015-11-17 Thread Dave Mielke
[quoted lines by cov...@ccs.covici.com on 2015/11/17 at 15:58 -0500] >I tried to do a git pull to see if that would help, but when I ran configure >it said error cannot find Programs/brltty.h in . or .. and indeed there is no >file brltty.h in the Programs directory. You need to run ./autogen b

Re: [BRLTTY] a couple of brltty problems with humanware brailliant bi 40

2015-11-17 Thread covici
Yep, it was off -- whoever would have thought that they would have that as the default -- thanks much. Bram Duvigneau wrote: > Hi, > > Recent firmware versions have the ability to turn the braille keyboard > off. Please check in the Brailliant settings (double press power button) > if it is ena

Re: [BRLTTY] a couple of brltty problems with humanware brailliant bi 40

2015-11-17 Thread covici
OK, so now I have the keyboard working in my virtual consoles, but orca is not seeing brltty at all. There is a brlapi.key in /etc and this did work with the older verwsion I was using, but now no joy. Bram Duvigneau wrote: > Hi, > > Recent firmware versions have the ability to turn the braill

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mario Lang, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 22:11:15 +0100, wrote: > When we originally planned to do it via SHM, D-Bus was not around. > Is SHM still the best option? It's *way* faster than any IPC. > However, D-Bus has access control, and maybe we could make use of that > to minimize potential security risk

Re: [BRLTTY] Broken colour names

2015-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Dave Mielke, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 16:19:13 -0500, wrote: > [quoted lines by Mario Lang on 2015/11/17 at 22:11 +0100] > >This is a very old open problem. I remember we agreed long ago on doing > >it similar to how Screen already does it (via the patch), but in a > >"standardized" way, such that the *

[BRLTTY] Braille voyager 70

2015-11-17 Thread Alexander Masic
Hi. I have still issues with my Braille voyager 70. I have now purchased an Convert box wich Optelec provide. The price was more or less robb. but ok. 70 cells display is 70 cells display. So now it,s works very well with both Jaws 17 and window eyes and other screenreaders running windows 10

[BRLTTY] Interfacing with terminal emulators (was: Re: Broken colour names)

2015-11-17 Thread Aura Kelloniemi
Samuel Thibault writes: > Mario Lang, on Tue 17 Nov 2015 22:11:15 +0100, wrote: >> When we originally planned to do it via SHM, D-Bus was not around. >> Is SHM still the best option? [--] >> The libraries are a convenience, but it is perfectly >> possible to code a standalone AT-SPI client just