Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Tony Finch
Michael McNally wrote: > On 5/8/13 9:33 AM, Jeremy P wrote: > > > > However, there are times where registering a real domain just isn't > > practical. For example, I'm not going to ask all of the students in my > > courses to go out and register a .com for the semester. > > The flip side of this

Re: Stalling slave transfers

2013-05-09 Thread Cathy Almond
On 08/05/13 19:15, Tom Sommer wrote: > > On 5/8/13 12:25 PM, Cathy Almond wrote: >> On 08/05/13 08:26, Tom Sommer wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a problem with one of 3 slave servers, all set up the exact same >>> way, with the exact same bind version and configuration. >>> >>> One slave has a prob

Re: Stalling slave transfers

2013-05-09 Thread Tom Sommer
On 5/9/13 11:36 AM, Cathy Almond wrote: I don't think you solved the problem - I think you moved it (or made it happen faster...) The refresh errors indicate that the master isn't responding to your slave for some reason. That's what you'll need to investigate. I would suggest auditing the di

Re: BIND Configuration

2013-05-09 Thread WBrown
I don't know how it's done, I'm not a networking guru, but here we have 2 upstream providers and somehow we route out through both, and both can route in to our /16 network. No messing with DNS changes depending on which ISP is having problems, As Clarke's third law states, "Any sufficiently

RE: Stalling slave transfers

2013-05-09 Thread Luther, Dan
Tom, What happens when you "dig +tcp example.com @1.2.3.4"? Specifically I'm wondering here if the slave you're having problems with is blocking TCP port 53. Such a configuration would allow you to query the master server, but not transfer to/from it. Dan Luther Operations Engineer Systems Op

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 5/8/13 9:33 AM, Jeremy P wrote: > However, there are times where registering a real domain just isn't > practical. For example, I'm not going to ask all of the students in my > courses to go out and register a .com for the semester. Michael McNally wrote: The flip side of this is that wha

RE: BIND Configuration

2013-05-09 Thread Ward, Mike S
Sounds like they are using BGP for routing. That's probably the way we are going to go. That way we don't have to make any crazy changes in our bind configurations. Thanks all for the replies. -Original Message- From: bind-users-bounces+mward=ssfcu@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-b

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Tony Finch
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 09.05.13 10:21, Tony Finch wrote: > > Right. Give each student a subdomain of some existing domain, even if the > > subdomains aren't publicly delegated. > > yes, so they will start using it in their job and home. They shouldn't do that if the teacher has proper

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Mike Hoskins (michoski)
-Original Message- From: Tony Finch Date: Thursday, May 9, 2013 11:01 AM To: Matus UHLAR - fantomas Cc: "bind-users@lists.isc.org" Subject: Re: architecture question >Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> On 09.05.13 10:21, Tony Finch wrote: >> > Right. Give each student a subdomain of som

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 09.05.13 10:21, Tony Finch wrote: > Right. Give each student a subdomain of some existing domain, even if the > subdomains aren't publicly delegated. Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: yes, so they will start using it in their job and home. On 09.05.13 16:01, Tony Finch wrote: They shouldn't

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Tony Finch
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > On 09.05.13 10:21, Tony Finch wrote: > > > > Right. Give each student a subdomain of some existing domain, even > > > > if the subdomains aren't publicly delegated. > > > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > yes, so they will start using it in their job and hom

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Jeremy P
I certainly didn't intend to spark off such a firestorm with my original question. I have learned a lot from the debate though. On the question of what to use with students, it is a fine thing to say "we should only do things the way they are done in real life so students don't learn bad habits",

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread WBrown
> From: Jeremy P > In my experience the students who "get it" and comprehend the > concepts are able to heed the warnings of "in real life, we would do > this a little different". The students who don't "get it" are gonna > misconfigure regardless of what TLD I tell them to use in the lab. >

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Jeremy P
Too often its the corner office friend! You are right, those other people may get hired, but not by people who know how to interview. I ran an IT department for 10 years prior to teaching and my goals of hiring were always first, don't hire jerks. Second, hire people who know their stuff inside

Re: Mailing list "reply-to" setting

2013-05-09 Thread Carlos M. martinez
My mail setup is as limited as my eyesight. As I mentioned, I have emails in my inbox and filter afterwards in order to keep mbox size at reasonable levels. In this way I don't forget to check this or that folder. While on inbox I filter by looking at the tags. Works really well and I know quite a

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Dave Warren
On 2013-05-09 11:27, Jeremy P wrote: I certainly didn't intend to spark off such a firestorm with my original question. I have learned a lot from the debate though. On the question of what to use with students, it is a fine thing to say "we should only do things the way they are done in real

Re: Mailing list "reply-to" setting

2013-05-09 Thread James
On 5/9/2013 5:02 PM, Carlos M. martinez wrote: My mail setup is as limited as my eyesight. As I mentioned, I have emails in my inbox and filter afterwards in order to keep mbox size at reasonable levels. In this way I don't forget to check this or that folder. While on inbox I filter by looking

Re: Mailing list "reply-to" setting

2013-05-09 Thread Sten Carlsen
This is also the way I use mail, so +1. On 09/05/13 23:02, Carlos M. martinez wrote: > My mail setup is as limited as my eyesight. As I mentioned, I have > emails in my inbox and filter afterwards in order to keep mbox size at > reasonable levels. In this way I don't forget to check this or that

Re: Mailing list "reply-to" setting

2013-05-09 Thread Chris Buxton
On May 9, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Carlos M. martinez wrote: > My mail setup is as limited as my eyesight. As I mentioned, I have > emails in my inbox and filter afterwards in order to keep mbox size at > reasonable levels. In this way I don't forget to check this or that folder. I'm sorry, but I have t

Re: Mailing list "reply-to" setting

2013-05-09 Thread Doug Barton
Seriously, can we stop discussing this now? If you need subject line tags, or your mail client doesn't properly know how to respond only to the list, or whatever -- please go work that out on your own. The majority of users on the list don't want or need these things, and many of us find thi

Re: architecture question

2013-05-09 Thread Dave Warren
On 2013-05-08 11:13, btb wrote: it's also mildly humorous that they used to quite religiously endorse .local, in some documents even categorizing use of the same domain name on an internal and external network as a "security risk". Keep in mind that this was before ubiquitous, always-on TCP/I