There is no perfect solution which either a) is technically correct for
everyone, or b) is religiously correct for everyone.
Rather, try to learn how to best implement a given solution correctly
such as SPF if it has value to your organization. There will always be
someone foaming at the mout
Friday, June 19, 2009 5:25 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: SPF/TXT records
My comments below will be to all in general, not to anyone specific and
no offence intended to anyone...
RE: Advogato:
Who?
RE: Circlied:
Who ?
Ok enough of the sarcasm :)
Is someone here ser
Swilting, a mail blocker tells me that you are sending something called
mailbomb.tar.bz2 as an attachment, to this mailing list [which,
sensibly, strips it].
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** Joe Yao j...@tux.org - Josep
its simple the spam on open serveur
that provided on big ISP
my exe win32
look the code
look the config file
its all the best simple
Le samedi 20 juin 2009 à 11:59 +0200, swilting a écrit :
> Le samedi 20 juin 2009 à 07:53 +0200, swilting a écrit :
> > a powerfull user of domankeys and DKIM
> >
>
Le samedi 20 juin 2009 à 07:53 +0200, swilting a écrit :
> a powerfull user of domankeys and DKIM
>
> that is it ?
>
> another domain fakessh.eu is up for DK DKIM
>
> the full administrator smtp.wanadoo.fr is a spammeur
>
>
>
> script consists of a while loop surrounding a telnet session
>
a powerfull user of domankeys and DKIM
that is it ?
another domain fakessh.eu is up for DK DKIM
the full administrator smtp.wanadoo.fr is a spammeur
script consists of a while loop surrounding a telnet session
Le vendredi 19 juin 2009 à 22:38 -0400, Joseph S D Yao a écrit :
> On Sat, Jun 20
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 07:24:41AM +1000, Noel Butler wrote:
...
> as the ones given). Seriously if you want to show why not, reference a
> reputable site with reputable commentators.
...
Circleid has reputable commentators. I'm not saying that they all are,
only that there exist some; I have
My comments below will be to all in general, not to anyone specific and
no offence intended to anyone...
> RE: Advogato:
Who?
> RE: Circlied:
Who ?
Ok enough of the sarcasm :)
Is someone here seriously trying to use those sites as a "reason" to not
do something, might as well reference
bind-users@lists.isc.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:41:50 PM
Subject: RE: SPF/TXT records
Or moreover not to bother with SPF at all as suggested in these
documents?:
Why you shouldn't jump on the SPF bandwagon:
http://www.advogato.org/article/816.html
How spammers get around
bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org
[mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Mike Bernhardt
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:37 PM
To: 'Matus UHLAR - fantomas'; bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: SPF/TXT records
So is the general recommendation in this group to NOT implement
y, June 19, 2009 12:31 AM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: SPF/TXT records
On 18.06.09 16:22, Jeffrey Collyer wrote:
> M$ has their own take on SPF called Sender ID, which uses a very similar
> record -
>
> "v=spf2.0" rather than "v=spf1"
>
> so b
On 18.06.09 16:22, Jeffrey Collyer wrote:
> M$ has their own take on SPF called Sender ID, which uses a very similar
> record -
>
> "v=spf2.0" rather than "v=spf1"
>
> so be sure to read up on them both before publishing records for one or
> the other.
It has downfalls so I recommend not even
Jeffrey Collyer wrote:
> M$ has their own take on SPF called Sender ID, which uses a very similar
> record -
>
> "v=spf2.0" rather than "v=spf1"
To be clear, it's "spf2.0/" plus one of "mfrom", "pra", or "mfrom,pra",
e.g., "spf2.0/mfrom" which is essentially the same as regular SPF.
>
> so be s
M$ has their own take on SPF called Sender ID, which uses a very similar
record -
"v=spf2.0" rather than "v=spf1"
so be sure to read up on them both before publishing records for one or
the other.
http://www.openspf.org/SPF_vs_Sender_ID
Hotmail in particular is picky about what it rejects a
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 03:06:14PM -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> I'm assuming you mean it would be rejected if you didn't have an SPF
> record for the company mail server in addition to the record for the
> home consultancy?
In my example, you for some reason don't have control over that DNS
reco
cause it wasn't high
priority.
-Original Message-
From: Joseph S D Yao [mailto:j...@tux.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:43 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: SPF/TXT records
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:22:26PM -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> We don
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:22:26PM -0400, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> We don't allow "all servers" to send email at all. They have to
> specifically be configured to send and relay to the Exchange server
> which itself must be configured to allow them.
>
> The domain, waterinvoice.com is not in genera
ursday, June 18, 2009 12:16 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: SPF/TXT records
It is all too easy for mail marked as from one of your domains to be
forwarded out the other mail server, if your internal mail server lets
every server inside forward mail (e.g., error messages) to it. Unless
It is all too easy for mail marked as from one of your domains to be
forwarded out the other mail server, if your internal mail server lets
every server inside forward mail (e.g., error messages) to it. Unless
you personally set up mail on all servers, in which case you are a
bottleneck. I have a
On 17.06.09 11:19, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> Right my relay might want it but if so that would be in my internal
> view. The Exchange and Sendmail servers only allow relay from specific
> locations and neither is using SPF to authenticate so far as I know.
>
> My question was more related to external
This is a bit OT, but...
You specify in an SPF (TXT) record your outbound MTAs, the ones that
everybody outside of your organization will see your mail sourced from.
If it goes through a third-party outsourced provider, you put the
provider's MTAs in your record (best via an include:). If your
m
org
Subject: Re: SPF/TXT records
On 17.06.09 10:46, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> When one sets SPF/TXT record is it for the relay server/IP that sent
the
> email to the internet or the originating one?
maybe even both. If the outgoing mail relay checks for SPF, and you
don't
use SMTP authentica
On 17.06.09 10:46, Jeff Lightner wrote:
> When one sets SPF/TXT record is it for the relay server/IP that sent the
> email to the internet or the originating one?
maybe even both. If the outgoing mail relay checks for SPF, and you don't
use SMTP authentication (in which case relays may not check f
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