Re: Undelegating a Signed Subdomain

2024-12-10 Thread Ondřej Surý
TL;DR Don't do this. It is not going to work as the origin of the RRSIG would different. gitlab.isc.org. 7200 IN A 52.201.58.154 gitlab.isc.org. 7200 IN RRSIG A 13 3 7200 ( 20241222045850 20241208044609 27566 isc.org.

Re: Undelegating a Signed Subdomain

2024-12-10 Thread Nick Tait via bind-users
Just an idea, but what if you copy the current ZSK key files from the example.com zone and rename the files (i.e. add “bar” into the filenames) so it will be picked up by the bar.example.com zone? In theory that should populate bar.example.com with the correct RRSIG records prior to removing the

Re: forwarding non-domain queries

2024-12-10 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
Good idea, Brian. People should test more. Hope it goes well. Packet captures and Wireshark are your friends. Cheers, Greg On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 at 15:25, Cuttler, Brian R (HEALTH) < brian.cutt...@health.ny.gov> wrote: > Greg, > > > > I have a test server I will enable the changes on before I roll

RE: forwarding non-domain queries

2024-12-10 Thread Cuttler, Brian R (HEALTH) via bind-users
Greg, I have a test server I will enable the changes on before I roll them out to my primary and secondary servers. The test server is where we make all tests and updates to zone files. As I configure the forwarders stanza, I will remove the zone for db.cache and test it out. Thanks, Brian Fr

Re: forwarding non-domain queries

2024-12-10 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
And my point is that you just don't need that hint zone definition at all, especially using custom NS in an environment such as this. Maybe try commenting it out and see if it makes any difference. Greg On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 at 14:48, Cuttler, Brian R (HEALTH) < brian.cutt...@health.ny.gov> wrote:

RE: forwarding non-domain queries

2024-12-10 Thread Cuttler, Brian R (HEALTH) via bind-users
Greg, Yes, I do have that but it looks like this (/etc/dns-root is a link to /etc/bind/zones carry over from an older platform) These are the servers I want to use as the forwards for all queries that aren't either local zones or more specific zones in the internal corp network. brian@cedar:/e

Re: forwarding non-domain queries

2024-12-10 Thread Greg Choules via bind-users
Hi Brian. So in your config you still have a section like this? zone ".: { type hint; file ; }; You don't need it a) at all anyway, for the reason I gave and b) because you are forwarding everything non-local and if you specify "forward only;" for both global forwarding (last resort, simila

RE: forwarding non-domain queries

2024-12-10 Thread Cuttler, Brian R (HEALTH) via bind-users
Nick, Greg, Thank you both, don't deal with that level of detail very often but I love having a clue as to the underpinnings of things. The root priming process is exactly the sort of thing you'd hope a service like this did, and it does! Thanks, Brian From: bind-users On Behalf Of Greg Chou

RE: forwarding non-domain queries

2024-12-10 Thread Cuttler, Brian R (HEALTH) via bind-users
Greg, Thank you. Replacing the db.cache file seems to work for replacing the root servers, I saw traffic shift to an internal router were I had expected/previously seen traffic through the FW. Manager noticed that secondary queries to domain servers were still going through the FW. The forwar

Re: Undelegating a Signed Subdomain

2024-12-10 Thread Bob Harold
>From what Ondřej says, if you can temporarily move the bar.example.com zone to a different set of nameservers, that would be much safer. Then you add the new records and remove the NS delegation of bar from the example.com zone, and wait for TTL's to expire. I would also turn down the TTL's ever

blocking rndc retrieve

2024-12-10 Thread Klaus Darilion via bind-users
Hello! Sometimes (serial quirks) it is necessary to force an AXFR. The "rndc retrieve" only queues the request, so I have to "tail -f" the log file to see if the AXFR was performed, which requires manual inspection. I would like to have a possibility, to trigger the AXFR, and wait until the AX

RE: Sporadic Timeouts after upgrading to bind9.20

2024-12-10 Thread Klaus Darilion via bind-users
Hi Ondřej! We run Ubuntu 24.04. Can you please update the dev-ppa too? Thanks Klaus -- Klaus Darilion, Head of Operations nic.at GmbH, Jakob-Haringer-Straße 8/V 5020 Salzburg, Austria From: Ondřej Surý Sent: Monday, December 9, 2024 2:54 PM To: Klaus Darilion Cc: Klaus Darilion via bind-users

Re: Undelegating a Signed Subdomain

2024-12-10 Thread Petr Špaček
Hello Chris. My take is that the *will* be some sort of breakage even if you do everything right with shortest possible TTLs - because this is the DNS, eventually consistent by design, and wildly misimplemented in practice. So don't feel bad when some breakage occurs :-) It will very much depe