Nick, Greg,

Thank you both, don't deal with that level of detail very often but I love 
having a clue as to the underpinnings of things.
The root priming process is exactly the sort of thing you'd hope a service like 
this did, and it does!

Thanks,
Brian


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Hi Nick.
True, they do, but very infrequently. Here are the ones I could find from 
recent history:
b-root 2023-11-27
i-root 2016-03-23
h-root 2015-12-01
d-root 2013-01-03
l-root 2007-11-01

Despite those changes, each release of BIND (and other resolvers, I believe) 
contains the current set, whatever they are, and one of the first things a 
resolver does when it starts receiving queries is to update the set of roots in 
a process known as root priming.
So, genuinely private networks aside, there is no reason to maintain your own 
hints file and therefore hint zone.

Cheers, Greg

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 at 07:26, Nick Tait via bind-users 
<bind-users@lists.isc.org<mailto:bind-users@lists.isc.org>> wrote:
On 10/12/2024 12:25, Greg Choules via bind-users wrote:
> Actually you don't need it anyway, even if you are doing recursion, as
> Internet root hints have been built into BIND for many years. The only
> reason you would need a hint zone is to define custom roots for a
> private network that is *completely* isolated from the Internet. Your
> corporate network does not meet that criterion because your corporate
> DNS servers will be answering names from the Internet. Therefore, lose
> the hint zone.

The only consideration here is that every so often a change might be
made to the root DNS servers, and based on past experience it has taken
many months for the compiled-in list of root servers within BIND to be
updated, which results in warnings being logged by BIND. Having a hint
file allows you to update that file - either manually or by upgrading a
distro package (e.g. "dns-root-data" on Ubuntu) - to eliminate those
warnings.

Nick.

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