On September 1st as a warm-up to the annual Perl conference in Granada,
Spain I'll be delivering a crash course on Perl Essentials which will
prepare beginners for the talks at the rest of the conference, as well as
giving them a 6 month enrolment at Geekuni.
http://act.yapc.eu/ye2015/
ariable outside this cycle.
You, of course, responsible not to write things like
for (@array) {
say "original loop variable $_";
foo($_);
say "reversed loop variable $_";
}
sub foo {
$_[0] = reverse $_[0];
}
but i think, it's important for beginners to understand such
ifish.org/
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CN=$_,PCID=" . join ("&", @{$result{$_}}) . ";" for sort keys
> %result;
>
> Outcome is exatly what you want
> EARFCN=1900,PCID=0&1&2&4;
> EARFCN=1902,PCID=5&6&7&8;
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> ср, 6 мая 2015 г. в 10:25, :
>
>>
>
$_ eq 'NULL';
my ($earfcn, $pcid) = /^(\d+)-(.+)$/;
push @{$result{$earfcn}}, $pcid;
}
say "EARFCN=$_,PCID=" . join ("&", @{$result{$_}}) . ";" for sort keys
%result;
Outcome is exatly what you want
EARFCN=1900,PCID=0&1&2&am
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:09 PM, wrote:
> See the subject line
It's really hard to interpret what you mean here, because ... you're
posting to one.
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On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 5:55 PM, David Christensen
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> Someone wrote:
>>
>> Can you please make the subject line read like a Perl topic rather than a
>> personal message in future?
>
>
Cirrect!
> People posting on beginners@perl.org can be beginners with mail
Someone wrote:
Can you please make the subject line read like a Perl topic rather than a
personal message in future?
http://lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html states:
A list for beginning Perl programmers to ask questions in a
friendly atmosphere.
People posting on beginners
should expect that different Perl programmers can, will, and are
entitled to, write their Perl programs differently; and be tolerant of
those differences.
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On 06/13/13 22:55, Shlomi Fish wrote:
That's nice and dandy, but please don't publish the products of your
"one-liners turned into scripts" here without cleaning them up first, because
there are beginners on this mailing list who need to learn good practices from
the code
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On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Thanos Zygouris <
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> What can i do about it? I use gmail (you can see that) and mutt MUA.
Nothing, I got the same msg - a little farther down:
This is the mail system at host x6.develooper.com.
...
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age as well. I believe this is just a matter
of G-mail requiring messages from the OP's mail domain
(fedex.com, IIRC) to be properly authenticated, and it seems that
the OP's mail is not. Therefore G-mail refuses it, and the Perl
beginners mailing list daemon is just notifying us that the m
Below it's a mail i received from ezmlm program...complains about some mails
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10 Aug 2012 13:41:51 -0500
>>>> Bill Stephenson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, I've been working on an example web based app that demonstrates
>>>>> pretty much how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note
>>>>> pad app for
o
draw a track and I've done that with GD too, but I suppose it can be done with
CSS too, so demoing both approaches would be nice.
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;> So, I've been working on an example web based app that demonstrates
>>>> pretty much how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note
>>>> pad app for beginners to play with. I put the app and code on my
>>>> Linux web server here:
>>>&
;> pretty much how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note
> >> pad app for beginners to play with. I put the app and code on my
> >> Linux web server here:
> >>
> >> http://www.raspberryperl.com
> >
> > Love it.
> >
>
On 08/13/2012 12:45 AM, Owen wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:41:51 -0500
> Bill Stephenson wrote:
>
>> So, I've been working on an example web based app that demonstrates
>> pretty much how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note pad
>> app for
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:41:51 -0500
Bill Stephenson wrote:
> So, I've been working on an example web based app that demonstrates
> pretty much how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note pad
> app for beginners to play with. I put the app and code on my
nstrates pretty much
how I've been doing things lately, it's a simple note pad app for beginners to
play with. I put the app and code on my Linux web server here:
http://www.raspberryperl.com
My goal is to give beginners some code that's configured to run on the
raspberry pi a
Another nice beginners site and a great weekly perl digest list to
subscribe to:
What's new on the Perl Beginners' Site <http://bit.ly/SyaFxg>
Shlomi Fish maintains the http://Perl-Begin.org site, an alternative to the
'official' learn.perl.org site. Once in a while he
you should also add perl-beginners zingers for the threads where
people go ape shit and make genehack want to do evil :)
seriously, some of them are somewhat humorous in hind sight. it would
be easy to find them for the list (threads >20 messages) too.
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Shlomi F
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ConnectME. That was very useful as a network appliance, but at US$47 in small
quantities, it only had one each Ethernet and serial ports.
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> Sales pitch? :)
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Sales pitch? :)
hed are getting Apache, MySQL, and the GD (libgd) running on the RPi
and hooking it to the internet.
Since Perl is already installed on the linux OS the RPi is a great beginners
platform to learn on. From what I've gathered over there, CPAN works, there are
some issues, but some successes too.
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On May 3, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Shawn H Corey wrote:
> On 12-05-03 09:55 AM, John SJ Anderson wrote:
>> One situation I really want to avoid with perl-beginners is having the
>> "old hands" here send people to other lists, only to have the people
>> on those other l
On 12-05-03 09:55 AM, John SJ Anderson wrote:
One situation I really want to avoid with perl-beginners is having the
"old hands" here send people to other lists, only to have the people
on those other lists say "we don't have time to hold your hand, maybe
you should ask on pe
> Sorry, but this is a beginners list. Questions about learning Perl or the
> modules in perlmodlib are consider beginners questions. Questions about
> other modules are not.
No offense intended, but I disagree.
None of the questions in this thread have been off-topic for
perl-beginne
Okay, meta-topics are always on topic, but this one is pretty run into
the ground and doesn't have anything to do with Perl -- let's let this
thread die out, and get back to the beginner questions...
thanks,
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On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Shawn H Corey wrote:
> On 11-10-06 11:37 AM, Zachary Zebrowski wrote:
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>> some mail clients (eg. Gmail) make it very hard to bottom post. Thanks
>> for not excluding me. :)
>>
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> I don't mind top posters but I wished more people would trim the quotes.
> Top post
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> On 11-10-06 11:37 AM, Zachary Zebrowski wrote:
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>> some mail clients (eg. Gmail) make it very hard to bottom post. Thanks
>> for not excluding me. :)
>>
>
> I don't mind top posters but I wished more people would trim the quotes.
> Top postin
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Cc: Perl Beginners
Subject: Re: John SJ Anderson is Perl Beginners list moderator
++ some mail clients (eg. Gmail) make it very hard to bottom post.
Thanks
for not excluding me. :)
On Oct 6, 2011 11:28 AM, "John SJ Anderson"
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from the "don't demand/order top-posting", I think this is a
> fair synopsis of current list behavior, which was a large factor in
> this decision.)
>
> Thanks for raising the issue, Octavian.
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> chrs,
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de from the "don't demand/order top-posting", I think this is a
fair synopsis of current list behavior, which was a large factor in
this decision.)
Thanks for raising the issue, Octavian.
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om-post should be not allowed, or if top-posting is not accepted, then this
should be described somewhere in the list's description.)
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Hello list members,
John SJ Anderson has accepted the role of list moderator. He'll be
responsible for the moderation of this list as he sees fit. If you have any
questions about that you can ask him directly or read the somewhat out of
date FAQ about the list:
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Yes it works fine with Windows 7. I myself have been using it for a long
time now. :)
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> Yes. ActivePerl-5.14.1.1401-MSWin32-x86 works well on Window 7.
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Yes. ActivePerl-5.14.1.1401-MSWin32-x86 works well on Window 7.
7.
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Do you know if Perl works fine under Windows 7 also?
Yes, no problems with perl on Windows 7.
Cheers,
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Hi all,
Even though in most cases I use Perl in production under Linux, I use to
develop the programs under Windows, and until now I used Perl only under
Windows XP.
Do you know if Perl works fine under Windows 7 also?
Thanks.
Octavian
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On Wednesday 24 Mar 2010 20:16:40 NAKO wrote:
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You can find a definitive list (and many other resources) on the Perl
Beginners' Site:
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Regards,
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http://learn.perl.org/books.html is a good start. The rest of the
http://learn.perl.org/ website is worth a look too, which is why it's
linked in the footers o
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:48:39 +0530, Sudheer K wrote:
> I am planning to start programming perl for my project . i am just a
> beginner to perl
> can i get information related to videos/links and books especially for
> beginners which can help me writing scripts .
Since you mention v
Hi Sudheer,
Some links to help you get started:
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http://learn.perl.org/
Good luck learning Perl. :-)
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Hi Sudheer!
On Friday 12 Mar 2010 09:18:39 Sudheer K wrote:
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> I am planning to start programming perl for my project . i am just a
> beginner to perl
> can i get information related to videos/links and books especially for
> beginners which can help me writing sc
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possibilities, but it helps you to get your job done (and therefore
helps me to pay my rent).
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I am planning to start programming perl for my project . i am just a
beginner to perl
can i get information related to videos/links and books especially for
beginners which can help me writing scripts .
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xplanations, post patches to
perldiag and add
use diagnostics;
to the beginner mode programs.
And to find the other possibly problematic code constructs I think
you'd better use Perl::Critic with whatever settings you think are
best for beginners than attempting to develop your own. I do
Hi,
there are a bunch of errors that beginners make a lot and that perl
does not catch or that the given error message is too generic.
use warning;
==
In my perl training classes the first thing I teach is to use strict;
and use warnings;
For some reason - maybe because my students are
From: "Gabor Szabo"
To: "Octavian Râsnita"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Octavian Râsnita
wrote:
From: "Gabor Szabo"
Could you please tell us what does PDK give
s smaller files than PAR and it gives less errors.
Oh so it allows you to create exe files of your code.
Great. thanks.
Gabor
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From: "Gabor Szabo"
Could you please tell us what does PDK give you?
PDK doesn't extract the files with the perl source code and for most cases
this protection is enough.
It creates smaller files than PAR and it gives less errors.
Octavian
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p them know which modules need attention to make life even
easier for Perl users on Win32.
Could you please tell us what does PDK give you?
regards
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y to take people with 0 perl knowledge
(e.g. Dreamwidth) while others expect the person to
understand OOP.
It can be as simple as a page on the TPF Perl 5 wiki.
What do you think?
Gabor
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ets were lost over time
because the knowledge transfers from master to apprentice were not
always complete for a variety of reasons.
There may be a way to do it efficiently short of a viable neural
interface, but so far no silver bullets have been found. Perhaps a few
more experiments are in order. Has anyone tried to imagine a "World of
PerlCraft" game.
Bob McConnell
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From: "Gabor Szabo"
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Octavian Râsnita wrote:
From: "Gabor Szabo"
As in many of the project the core developers
are usually more Linux/OSX people and the beginners will tend to be more
Windows people, one will have to go the extra miles
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Octavian Râsnita wrote:
> From: "Gabor Szabo"
>>
>> As in many of the project the core developers
>> are usually more Linux/OSX people and the beginners will tend to be more
>> Windows people, one will have to go the extra mi
From: "Gabor Szabo"
As in many of the project the core developers
are usually more Linux/OSX people and the beginners will tend to be more
Windows people, one will have to go the extra miles and explain in terms
that make sense on windows. If done correctly and documents are gene
Thank you, all of you for your input!
I think you made very interesting and valuable points,
many of which I have not thought earlier.
Actually I was hoping to get the responses of beginners to understand
their POV but the input of the others was also interesting.
My objectives are two-fold.
1
publisher adds quality
checking, support for authors in standardizing, etc. Also, I think an
author would put more care into something that is going "in print" [on
paper or on-line] than something that is going into a blog.
As the saying goes, "You get what you pay for..
formulate an algorithm, I believe that would be
a "success".
I've also heard of repositories as a deterrent from cheating. If you
make a rule to commit every day, it leaves a record of how your project
[made by just you] grew. I'm not so sure how effective this is...
Gabor Szabo wrote:
in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html
I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly.
The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-)
So let me ask it on this list.
As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a
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perl mentor to lead this for the
sometimes before beginners can get it right especially for non
computer scientist.
Goke
On 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote:
>
>
> --- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote:
>
> From: fudmer rieley
> Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners
> To:
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote:
From: fudmer rieley
Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners
To: beginners@perl.org
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:42 AM
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote:
From: fudmer rieley
Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners
To: "Raymon
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, fudmer rieley wrote:
From: fudmer rieley
Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners
To: "Raymond Wan"
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 6:57 AM
The need is for a problem book with real explained answers
[producing such a problem book would be a massive u
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Gabor Szabo wrote:
From: Gabor Szabo
Subject: Re: Perl projects for beginners
To: "fudmer rieley"
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 7:20 AM
please post this to the list
Gabor
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:12 PM, fudmer rieley wrote:
> Besides the Instructional
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 12:13 +0300, Erez Schatz wrote:
> Accidentally sent to Gabor, rather to the list:
>
> 2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Many projects assume a lot of background already that beginners
> > might not yet have. What things would beginners
learn Perl as you end up with the issues that Philip mentioned...issues
> with software engineering which will end up distracting people.
>
I'd agree with this. Contributing to a project is well above a
beginners level, unless you're already an accomplished programmer and
looki
Accidentally sent to Gabor, rather to the list:
2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo :
> Hi,
>
> Many projects assume a lot of background already that beginners
> might not yet have. What things would beginners need in order to
> get involved in a project?
I think it all boils down to clear, s
ave "Practice problems" at the end of the chapter. I'm sure
you could start with those if you want newbies to start with
something... Of course, a more Perl-oriented book would be ideal.
Ray
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Hi Gabor.
So far, in my quest to learn perl, it's been pretty easy to learn how
to program basic applications, that perform simple functions using
modules from CPAN.
I think beginners would greatly benefit from learning how to write
their OWN perl module to aid in performing a task. This
2009/9/7 Gabor Szabo :
> Hi,
>
> in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html
> I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly.
> The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-)
>
> So let me ask it on this list.
>
> As I think
Hi,
in a blog post http://szabgab.com/blog/2009/09/1251862435.html
I recently asked how to make a project beginner friendly.
The best answer I got was to ask the beginners. Clever :-)
So let me ask it on this list.
As I think think the best way to learn Perl is tor practice a lot
and the best
Ajay Kumar asked:
> Gesendet: Freitag, 21. August 2009 12:23
> An: beginners@perl.org
> Betreff: RE: WELCOME to beginners@perl.org
>
> Hi All
>
> I have great issues
>
> 1) perl -e '$a=0.123451005;$a=sprintf("%.8f",$a);print"=$a\n";'
&g
the second one wrong result
For second one result should be 5.12345101 but it is giving 5.12345100
May I know why it behabe So
Perl says for commercial data it does not work for some values
Let me know if you have any other function that do round of with great
accuracy
Thanks in advance
Aj
e and help with this regard would be very much
appriciated.
Awaiting for your quick response.
Thanks,
Srinivasa Prasad
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Hi Randal,
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
"Raymond" == Raymond Wan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raymond> In academia, it is common to blame the student, but up to a point, it
Raymond> might be worth asking if the teacher can teaching things
Raymond> differently...especially if enough s
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz)
> In my view, there are no stupid students. Only misstated pre-reqs, misaligned
> goals, or *bad* instructors. No excuse for any of those.
Not being too stupid might be considered a pre-req. Though usualy
it's not stated this way, but rather as "must
> "Raymond" == Raymond Wan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raymond> In academia, it is common to blame the student, but up to a point, it
Raymond> might be worth asking if the teacher can teaching things
Raymond> differently...especially if enough students complain.
As someone who has built a sol
often than not it is actually the reader that is too
dense, not the documentation.
That may be true, Bob, but not all documentation are the same and the
perldocs seem more like a reference manual than a tutorial for
beginners, at least to me. And sometimes, it helps having figures
(i.e.,
From: Jenda Krynicky
> From: Andrew Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Hi
> > >From my experience learning Perl, the supplied on-line
documentation
> > accessed through the perldoc command provides everything you need.
>
> This depends on your background. If you can program and just nee
From: Andrew Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi
> >From my experience learning Perl, the supplied on-line documentation
> accessed through the perldoc command provides everything you need.
This depends on your background. If you can program and just need to
learn Perl, it's perfectl
Hi
>From my experience learning Perl, the supplied on-line documentation
accessed through the perldoc command provides everything you need.
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air wrote:
> On 9月19日, 下午12时19分, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Pang) wrote:
>
>> 2008/9/19 Phillip Pi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>>> Thank you, but
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