Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-04 Thread Kern Sibbald
l have it. > > > ;0) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Phil Stracchino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:02 PM > > To: Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) > > Cc: Kern Sibbald; bacula-users@li

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-03 Thread Jo
Russell Howe wrote: Maria McKinley wrote: Since Phil couldn't tell me what does happen when there are two jobs at the same time with the same priority, I haven't changed added that, but would be glad to if someone else knows. I remember scouring the manual for this, and couldn't find

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-03 Thread Russell Howe
Maria McKinley wrote: > Since Phil couldn't tell me what does happen when there are two jobs at > the same time with the same priority, I haven't changed added that, but > would be glad to if someone else knows. I remember scouring the manual for this, and couldn't find a definitive answer. There

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-03 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello Maria, Thanks for your contribution. I'll take a careful look at it and the placement you specified and get back to you a little later. Since it is an addition, rather than a change, it should be quite easy for me to fit it in ... :-) On Monday 03 October 2005 09:51, Maria McKinley

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-03 Thread Maria McKinley
My suggestion was actually for a different part of the manual then the patch that Arno has written is for. I was imagining it being placed as another subsection in the Getting Started with Bacula section under the subsection, Understanding Pools, Volumes and Labels (maybe call it Understanding

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello, On 01.10.2005 08:23, Kern Sibbald wrote: Hello, If I have understood this thread correct, the text below is mean to replace the current text in the manual, and everyone agrees it is an improvement. Is that correct? Almost. One thing to consider would be to shorten the text a bit -

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Saturday 01 October 2005 18:43, Phil Stracchino wrote: > Arno Lehmann wrote: > > Please note that in certain cases this wayof working doesn't produce the > > expected results: If (under unix / linux) you move a whole directory, > > the directories contents access times are not updated. Thus, whe

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Phil Stracchino
Arno Lehmann wrote: > Please note that in certain cases this wayof working doesn't produce the > expected results: If (under unix / linux) you move a whole directory, > the directories contents access times are not updated. Thus, when moving > a directory into a fiilesystem tree that is backed up,

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Phil Stracchino
Maria McKinley wrote: > I agree with Phil that if you look at the manual carefully, and know > where to look, it's clear. However, as a newbie the bacula > documentation can be a bit overwhelming and occasionally confusing. I > think part of this is because the basic idea of having jobs and > sch

RE: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure)
-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job > I hope you don't take Phils's remark personal - after all, at least he > thinks about your suggestion ;-) > > Arno Oh, it certainly wasn't MEANT personally. Hrm. Perhaps we could do a better job by rewrit

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Phil Stracchino
> I hope you don't take Phils's remark personal - after all, at least he > thinks about your suggestion ;-) > > Arno Oh, it certainly wasn't MEANT personally. Hrm. Perhaps we could do a better job by rewriting that section altogether. OK, this is going to be sizeable. Now, we have this:

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Kern Sibbald
Hello, If I have understood this thread correct, the text below is mean to replace the current text in the manual, and everyone agrees it is an improvement. Is that correct? There always seem to be complaints about the manual, probably for the reason that Arno states (it is hard to put oneself

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Phil Stracchino
Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote: > Here is a diff against > http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/Configuring_Director.html > > 565c565,569 > < performed as requested. > --- > >>performed as requested. >>Note: Since the director looks for a previous >>full backup with the same job name of yo

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Phil Stracchino
Arno Lehmann wrote: > Hello, > > On 01.10.2005 08:23, Kern Sibbald wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> If I have understood this thread correct, the text below is mean to >> replace the current text in the manual, and everyone agrees it is an >> improvement. >> >> Is that correct? > > > Almost. > > One t

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello, On 02.10.2005 10:39, Kern Sibbald wrote: ... After reading all the emails, I'm a bit confused, so I'm not planning to do anything for several reasons: 1. I have a number of undocumented features to document that important to work on, and for which I am having problems finding the time.

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-10-02 Thread Maria McKinley
, September 30, 2005 1:02 PM To: Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) Cc: Kern Sibbald; bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Arno Lehmann Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote: Here is a diff against http

RE: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-30 Thread Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure)
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:02 PM To: Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) Cc: Kern Sibbald; bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Arno Lehmann Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job >Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote: >> Here is a diff ag

RE: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-30 Thread Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure)
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job Hi, On 30.09.2005 22:23, Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote: > Speaking as a bacula newbie who read the documentation, It did not seem > obvious to me. Having been unfamiliar with bacula I was think

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-30 Thread Arno Lehmann
TECTED] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:02 PM To: Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) Cc: Kern Sibbald; bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Arno Lehmann Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote: Here is a d

RE: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-30 Thread Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure)
r 30, 2005 12:29 AM To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure); Phil Stracchino; Arno Lehmann Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job Oh, by the way, I was referring to the Development manual in my last email -- I haven't l

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-30 Thread Kern Sibbald
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:31 PM > To: Arno Lehmann > Cc: Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure); > bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full > Job > > >Arno Lehmann wrote: > >> Hello, > >>

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-30 Thread Kern Sibbald
ts.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full > Job > > >Arno Lehmann wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'll put my answer to Phil's post here... it just fits better. > >> > >> Phil, if

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-29 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello, On 30.09.2005 00:01, Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote: ... BINGO!!! That is it exactly. The documentation was not clear at all on this. Thank you very much, I would have never been able to figure that out from the docs. Is there someplace to issue a bug report against the docum

RE: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-29 Thread Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure)
-Original Message- From: Phil Stracchino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:31 PM To: Arno Lehmann Cc: Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure); bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job >A

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-29 Thread Phil Stracchino
Arno Lehmann wrote: > Hello, > > I'll put my answer to Phil's post here... it just fits better. > > Phil, if he scenario you describe really can happen I think it would be > time to consider the time stamp stored in the FileSet when looking for > previous backups. sqlquery follows: I don't know

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-29 Thread Arno Lehmann
ts.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote: Is it possible that Bacula's Diff jobs are purposefully not referencing a "Good" Full backup because of the mail warning? In short, no. Bacula

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-29 Thread Phil Stracchino
Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote: > The Full backup it is referencing "_IS_" good, but it is old. As a result the > differentials are much bigger than they need to be. My question is why is it > referencing an old Good Full backup verses a new Good Full backup? Well, basically, I can see

RE: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-29 Thread Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure)
-Original Message- From: Phil Stracchino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:50 PM To: Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) Cc: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job > >Bennett,

Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-28 Thread Phil Stracchino
Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote: > Is it possible that Bacula's Diff jobs are purposefully not referencing > a "Good" Full backup because of the mail warning? In short, no. Bacula is referencing a Full backup that it believes to be good; if it's not good, then Bacula doesn't know it isn'

[Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full Job

2005-09-28 Thread Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure)
Hi All,   I am using Bacula 1.36.2:   Looking at the bacula console output, my daily differentials seem to be referencing an old Full back up job. The line in question reads.   Backup Level:    Differential, since=2005-08-15 01:05:02   I have not been able to find the reason for this,