I've now integrated your text into the manual.

Thanks for your contribution.

On Saturday 01 October 2005 09:44, Maria McKinley wrote:
> I agree with Phil that if you look at the manual carefully, and know
> where to look, it's clear.  However, as a newbie the bacula
> documentation can be a bit overwhelming and occasionally confusing.  I
> think part of this is because the basic idea of having jobs and
> schedules and their interaction is not very clear to someone starting
> out.  I'm wondering if adding something like this paragraph under the
> Understanding Pools, Volumes and Labels (maybe call it Understanding
> Jobs and Schedules) would help?
>
>
> In order to make bacula as flexible as possible, the "directions" given
> to bacula are broken into several pieces.  The main instruction is the
> job resourse, which defines a job.  A backup job generally consists of a
> fileset, a client, a schedule for one or several types/times of backups,
> a pool, as well as additional instructions.  The thing that usually
> defines a job is what is being backed up, so typically each
> fileset/client combination will have one corresponding job.  Most of the
> directives, such as pools and schedules, can be mixed and matched among
> the jobs.  So you might have two jobs backing up different servers using
> the same schedule, the same fileset (backing up the same directories on
> 2 machines) and maybe even the same pools.  The schedule will define
> what type of backup will run when (full on monday, incremental the rest
> of the week), and when more than one job uses the same schedule, job
> priority determines which actually runs first.  If you have a lot of
> jobs, you might want to use JobDefs, where you can set defaults for the
> jobs, which can then be changed by the job itself, but saves rewriting
> the identical parameters for each job.  In addition to the file sets you
> want to back up, you should also have a job that backs up your catalog.
>   Finally, be aware that in addition to the backup jobs there are
> restore, verify, and admin jobs, which have different requirements.
>
>
> I think this would have helped me catch on to bacula faster, anyway.
> So, there is one data point.  :-)  Assuming, of course, that I have
> caught on.  Please let me know if I got any of this wrong.  Not sure how
> you guys go about adding to documentation, so also please let me know if
> I am going about this the wrong way.
>
> Btw, thanks for a great backup program!
>
> cheers,
> maria
>
> Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote:
> > Speaking as a bacula newbie who read the documentation, It did not
> > seem obvious to me. Having been unfamiliar with bacula I was thinking
> > of running Full backup jobs and Incremental/Differential backup jobs,
> > not running a single job that was Full/Differential/Incremental based
> > upon some other requirements. Something a bit more clear was needed
> > for me to get it.
> >
> > I really don't care whether you apply the patch or not. I just wanted
> > to be helpful, and offer my newbie perspective while I still have it. >
> > ;0)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Stracchino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:02 PM
> > To: Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure)
> > Cc: Kern Sibbald; bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Arno Lehmann
> > Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Differentials Jobs referencing obsolete Full
> > Job
> >
> >>Bennett, Silas (GE Infrastructure) wrote:
> >>>Here is a diff against
> >>> http://www.bacula.org/rel-manual/Configuring_Director.html
> >>>
> >>>565c565,569
> >>>< performed as requested.
> >>>---
> >>>
> >>>>performed as requested.
> >>>><STRONG>Note: Since the director looks for a previous
> >>>>full backup with the same job name of your incrimental, you cannot do
> >>>>incrementals against full backups with a different job name. Even if
> >>>> the Client and Filesets are the same for both jobs.</STRONG>
> >>>
> >>>626c630,634
> >>>< performed as requested.
> >>>---
> >>>
> >>>>performed as requested.
> >>>><STRONG>Note: Since the director looks for a previous
> >>>>full backup with the same job name of your differential, you cannot do
> >>>>differentials against full backups with a different job name. Even if
> >>>> the Client and Filesets are the same for both jobs.</STRONG>
> >>
> >>You know, when I look at this, since the *very first* requirement
> >>specified in the existing manual is that the reference job must have the
> >>same job name, it seems perfectly clear to me.  I really don't see how
> >>it can be misunderstood.
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Phil Stracchino       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>   Renaissance Man, Unix generalist, Perl hacker
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