Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3282 assigned to G.

2012-10-14 Thread omd
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I'm still sorting it out, but I must say I wholly disagree with this bit. > The Fora rule allows any player to make an announcement by sending a message > via a public forum. It is a simple inference from slave golem mechanisms to > say that t

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7315 - 7318

2012-10-16 Thread omd
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > ID: 7315 > Title: Power of the Herald > Author: omd > AI: 1.5 > Chamber: Ordinary N.b. the Promotor here missed the first line of the proposal: > Amend Rule 649 (Patent Titles) by inserting this paragraph after the second:

DIS: Fwd: Your message to agora-official awaits moderator approval

2012-10-16 Thread omd
It's been two months and a half since Taral posted here, so I'm guessing we really need to decide who is going to run the lists. Again, I volunteer; if someone else wants to do it, please reply, and I suppose we can have an informal election. -- Forwarded message -- From: Date:

Re: DIS: So what is going on at the moment

2012-11-01 Thread omd
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Klaus Herrmanns wrote: > > Hi, > > So what is currently going on in Agora? After some time spent browsing > recent mail archives and CFJs I'm not quite sure whether the game is in a > post-scam reorientation phase (still trying to figure out whether the scam > succe

Re: DIS: So what is going on at the moment

2012-11-01 Thread omd
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The scam was pretty complicated but I think most people just decided to go > even > quieter and wait to see if it worked. I think consensus was it didn't, at > least > the CFJs that said it didn't haven't been appealed. Of course, the scam

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: notice

2012-11-01 Thread omd
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> I intend to cause Rule 2380 to append "scshunt CAN, by announcement, >> cause this Rule to perform an arbitrary change to the gamestate." > > Do you intend to do so With Notice? I intend,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3282 assigned to G.

2012-11-04 Thread omd
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:31 PM, omd wrote: > Well, with no hard feelings, I intend, with two support, to appeal > this judgement. ;p Nobody? Well... I guess we can get this over with.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: request to join

2012-11-05 Thread omd
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 5 Nov 2012, omd wrote: >> CFJ: I own multiple Machiavelli trading cards. > > I disfavor all open cases called by omd. -G. I had to try something.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3287 assigned to Antony

2012-11-11 Thread omd
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > Arguments: the intended interpretation (which would lead to a > judgement of TRUE) was perfectly clear, well-defined, and reasonable. > omd's interpretation (which led to a judgement of FALSE) is to > interpret the condition as being ill-defi

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3282a assigned to FKA441344, Roujo, Italy

2012-11-13 Thread omd
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > AFFIRM without prejudice. No arguments from either of you?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3282a assigned to FKA441344, Roujo, Italy

2012-11-14 Thread omd
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > I agree that "A player can do [action] without objection" translates > to "A golem can do [action] without objection", not simply "A golem > can do [action]" without the objection part. I think it's reasonable > to say that a Player ann

Re: DIS: Straw polls regarding the trading card contest

2012-11-16 Thread omd
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Klaus Herrmanns wrote: > Would it be legal to bribe people to vote in certain ways by promising them > (formally or informally) a reward to be paid in trading cards? Legal and encouraged. Vote manipulation is fun.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [CotC] CFJ 3283 assigned to Antony

2012-12-03 Thread omd
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2012, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I intend, without objection, to deputise for the Promotor to >> distribute undistributed proposals. > > I think the office is vacant so you can just do this right out? I unfortunately assumed it.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7319–7321

2012-12-11 Thread omd
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:53 PM, omd wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: >> 7319 1.0 Ordinary G. Trading Cards > FAP >> 7320 1.0 Ordinary scshunt Lexicon > FAP >> 7321 2.0 Ordinary Murphy Appeal of appeals &

DIS: Fwd: BUS: Getting around to things (attn: Registrar)

2012-12-17 Thread omd
TTttCF -- Forwarded message -- From: omd Date: Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:23 PM Subject: Re: BUS: Getting around to things (attn: Registrar) To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On second thought, I object. The new lists should

Re: DIS: Happy New Year!

2012-12-31 Thread omd
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Happy New Year, Agora! > > See you all on the 7th (or not) > > -scshunt I award myself a Pink Ribbon.

DIS: Re: BUS: We'd Rather Kill Them Off By Peaceful Means

2013-01-16 Thread omd
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Pavitra wrote: > As each Slave Golem is an entity with zero Props, and zero is less than > nine, each Slave Golem is a Marine under the last sentence of R2376. FOR

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7328–7332

2013-01-19 Thread omd
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > --Machiavelli, who hopes that there's a keyboard layout for Windows > that makes typing em dashes easy while not impairing the typing of > things that can be typed on an ordinary US keyboard In OS X it's option-shift-dash. (Unhelpfully yours

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3283 assigned to G.

2013-01-22 Thread omd
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Arguments: Holy crap, this is an old case.

DIS: Re: BUS: Actually, looks like time to start playing again

2013-01-27 Thread omd
Gratuitous: By itself, "I cause X to send a message with the same text as Y" may be reasonable shorthand, but isn't there some precedent that we should take the global view and consider the shorthand unreasonable because it is being used to effectively send an infinitely long message?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Return of Wes

2013-01-29 Thread omd
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:48 PM, woggle wrote: > Re: "the online versions", comex's are out of date (AFAIK), but see > https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/ . I've updated my online version to include this link. Maybe some day I will revamp my web interface...

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Options

2013-02-02 Thread omd
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > Proto-proposal, "Options": Wasn't there something else along these lines recently?

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7328 - 7332

2013-02-09 Thread omd
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > *7329 1.0 Antony The Card That Owned Itself > *7331 1.0 Antony Let's bookbind differently > *7332 1.0 Antony Lesser oops CoE: I did not write any of these proposals.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy IADoP] Promotor Election

2013-02-09 Thread omd
By the way, I change my name to omd.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy IADoP] Promotor Election

2013-02-10 Thread omd
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > Presumably you mean "I also vote for Machiavelli, as he seems to have > been doing an adequate job", rather than "I also vote for myself, as I > seem to have been doing an adequate job". Presumably.

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset

2013-02-25 Thread omd
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM, woggle wrote: > THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET It would be nice if this document contained a link to the online FLR... which apparently I never did. Oops. I thought I started doing that at some point.

Re: DIS: Second-Class Players

2013-04-01 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Slave golems have been used for ownership scams, criminal scams, and > currency scams. Anything genuinely "useful" in there? It used to be possible to let partnerships (not slave golems) vote by spending assets on their behalf, with the somewh

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2013-04-03 Thread omd
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Tanner Swett wrote: > I call a CFJ on the following statement: A person CAN violate Rule 101 > by failing to treat Agora right good forever without violating any > other regulation found in Rule 101. Evidence: CFJ 2515.

DIS: attn: assessor

2013-04-09 Thread omd
I think you've missed last week's VVLOP report, unless I've missed something, so just a reminder that you're supposed to publish it. :)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: More potential escalations.

2013-04-10 Thread omd
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > Arguments: this fails due to rule 2150; a rule needs power at least 2 to > define an entity as a person. Defining a rule as a golem is defining it > to be a person, among other things. Arguments: As I mentioned on IRC, clearly if a high-powered

DIS: Re: BUS: An old flame

2013-04-10 Thread omd
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Proposal: New Beginnings (AI=3) Generally, I was going to respond negatively, criticizing the extra complexity introduced when the latest batch of changes might finally produce a solid basis for gameplay (unlike several past attempts that are st

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7364–7395

2013-04-10 Thread omd
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > The Proposal Pool contains the following proposals: > > AI CHAMBER AUTHOR TITLE > 1.0 Ordinary omd Plan B > > The above proposal is undistributed because its AI is too small for it > to be effect

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal 7395

2013-04-10 Thread omd
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > I submit a proposal, titled "Seventy-Three Ninety-Five": In Rule 2367 > "Messy Statements", replace "inaccurate and incorrect" with > "nonsensical and meaningless". > > Arguments: considering both a statement and its negation to be > meaningfu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Adoption of Proposals

2013-04-10 Thread omd
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Wes Contreras wrote: > This is a case where comma placement parses the sentence quite differently. > > "If there is no [[[Agoran Decision to adopt a particular proposal that > has an outcome of ADOPTED]]], that proposal CANNOT take effect, rules > to the contrary n

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7364–7395

2013-04-10 Thread omd
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > Admitted. Since the report also contained a correct account of the > Proposal Pool's contents, it is not necessary (if I'm not mistaken) > for me to publish that account a second time. > > Want me to distribute that proposal, by the way? Does

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Interstellar administration and weather report

2013-04-12 Thread omd
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: >> TL;DR: the office of ATC is vacant and the Registrar is behind in eir >> duties. > > I initiate an election for Registrar. omd is considered to have > nominate

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2013-04-13 Thread omd
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> 7386 2.0 Ordinary scshunt Eraser > FOR. Sorry Bayes, the small positive you contribute isn't worth the > large negatives brought by the rest of the golems. For the record, just the other day I was planning to make a new Bayes with a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2013-04-14 Thread omd
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The most someone can get is just under 3xbase, I'm not sure this really > that unfair compared to a lot of past systems? Or am I missing > something. -G. Oops, I forgot that the default limit is now 4... In general I think the limit should

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7364–7395

2013-04-15 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:54 PM, woggle wrote: >>> 7382 1.0 Plutocra omd Плутократия! > With 3 Agoran consent, I hereby make the decision to adopt Proposal 7382 > Democratic. > > Murphy and Roujo supported and there were no objectors. Oops, I forgot to object...

DIS: Re: BUS: Some cleanup

2013-04-18 Thread omd
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > The new rule has power as specified by the enacting > instrument, defaulting to one if not specified, but if > that power is less than a minimum or more than a maximum > specified in another rule, then the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Amended: Distribution of Proposals 7396–7413

2013-04-18 Thread omd
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Tanner Swett wrote: > If it is ambiguous whether or not the proposal contained the > text in brackets, then it could be argued that I chose to interpret > the text in brackets as not being part of the text of the proposal, > and thus the distribution succeeded. G

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3306 assigned to omd

2013-04-20 Thread omd
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3306 > > == CFJ 3306 == > > scshunt satisfies the Victory Condition of Junta due to Rule > 2380 > > ==

DIS: Re: BUS: Deregistering

2013-04-22 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM, omd wrote: > I hereby deregister all Golems and Agora Nomic. correction: the Golems were already destroyed, so this only deregistered Agora.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2013-04-23 Thread omd
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I don't think this solves the problem. I think the problem is people > putting in switches without thinking about tracking, the requirement > to add "untracked" doesn't help. Also, I'm nervous about having > untracked switches in general. W

DIS: Re: BUS: it's only been like four months let's try this again

2013-04-23 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 5:36 PM, omd wrote: > I intend, without objection, to change the Publicity of the fora > currently located at agora-busin...@agoranomic.org, > agora-offic...@agoranomic.org, and agora-discussion@agoranomic.org to > Foreign. I am now sending the above ann

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] VC Report

2013-04-23 Thread omd
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:04 PM, omd wrote: >> Apr 16 0:13 Report published >> Machiavelli -6 > > While this seems (more or less) accurate, I notice that you didn't put > down the reason for this

DIS: Re: BUS: That Ambassador is a Spy!

2013-04-25 Thread omd
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > The Ambassador must debunk any impersonators' claims within a week or > so, even if he isn't even aware such a claim has been made. Here's a > fix: You might also want to only require making a reasonable effort to inform the nomic. See

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: That Ambassador is a Spy!

2013-04-25 Thread omd
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > (But I assume that the Promotor can do that practically effortlessly, > and it wouldn't actually help the Rulekeepor at all.) As Promotor, it's my policy not to reformat proposals because (a) it historically hasn't typically been done, (b) t

DIS: Re: BUS: Enforcement

2013-04-27 Thread omd
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > { Enforcement > > Enact a Rule entitled "The Prosecutor" with the following text: > > The Prosecutor is an office. As soon as possible after a player > breaks the Rules, the Prosecutor SHALL i

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset

2013-04-28 Thread omd
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:20 PM, woggle wrote: > THE SHORT LOGICAL RULESET Are you going to keep the web ruleset at https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/current_flr.txt updated?

Re: DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-04-28 Thread omd
On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > Yaks, with currency symbol '#' are a class of assets and a > currency; their ownership is restricted to players. The Yak missing comma, and "class of assets and a currency" is redundant > The Yak Herdor CAN destroy other

Re: DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Charles Walker wrote: >>> Any player CAN, by announcement, set the Chamber of an entity to >>> Democratic for a cost of 1000 Yaks. >> >> Democracy is easy enough already :( > > Would you rather I: > a) Increase the cost > b) Remove the other method of d

DIS: Re: BUS: proto: infractions

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The final version will go through and replace a bunch of crimes with > infractions and maybe add a few. This is just to proto the mechanism. You should also replace some serious but unmarked SHALL NOTs with Crimes, such as R2143's prohibitio

DIS: Re: BUS: Meet Agora's newest first-class player

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > To which I'll expand: the prime example of permissiveness in CFJ 1719 was > partnerships (now gone) Arguments: Partnerships, including the implicit ability to act on behalf of them, were originally recognized by CFJ (by you in CFJ 1622), with

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3306 assigned to omd

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:19 PM, omd wrote: > Even though the effect of such a misinterpretation is > lessened in this case because the general effects of the action > scshunt meant to take and the one e wrote are the same, it's still a > misinterpretation, and the potential

DIS: Re: BUS: Meet Agora's newest first-class player

2013-04-29 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 3:44 PM, woggle wrote: > See CFJ 1856 (finding that there was insufficient evidence, in a similar > situation, that the act-on-behalf agreement met the historical versions of > R101(iii) and R101(iv) and therefore judged such an attempt unsuccessful). Arguments: djanatyn h

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Banks

2013-04-30 Thread omd
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Defining a bank for a Rules-backed currency is > Secured. As written, only the rule defining a currency can define a Bank for it, so securing this is unnecessary. > The creation or > awarding of instances of a Rules-backed cu

Re: DIS: On Agora's Vigintennial

2013-04-30 Thread omd
Did everyone not realize this was coming up, or just me? :) I invite any sort of publicity that might encourage Agora's current just-getting-out-of-a-slump.

Re: DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > A singleton switch is a switch for which Agora Nomic is the only > entity possessing an instance of that switch. You could just say Agora Nomic switch.

Re: DIS: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I don't see why the archives need authentication at all. > > Wasn't it a defense against email-harvesting issue? Not everyone has Gmail's spam filtering! That said, it's not like we've ever tried particularly hard to protect email addresses,

Re: DIS: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:50 AM, omd wrote: > There is an experimental feature which I went ahead and implemented, > but I'd appreciate feedback and will turn it off if desired: all list > messages are piped through a script which rewrites the Date header to > be the same as t

Re: DIS: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 2 May 2013 18:18, omd wrote: >> Not everyone has Gmail's spam filtering! > > Surely even mailman can weakly obfuscate addresses in the archives. The archives include the raw mbox, and I don't really want to obf

Re: DIS: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 2 May 2013 17:58, omd wrote: >> The archives include the raw mbox, and I don't really want to >> obfuscate that, because then the obfuscated version will end up >> getting backed up and published someday ;p > &

DIS: Re: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
Testing. Just set OLD_STYLE_PREFIXING = No, so the subject of this message should be "DIS: Re: OFF:", as before, instead of "Re: DIS: OFF:"

DIS: Re: OFF: Lists have been transferred (but are still Foreign)

2013-05-02 Thread omd
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> ...and unfortunately, it seems that this is enough to make Gmail treat >> the message as distinct from the original, so if you send a reply, you >> now get a duplicate, rather than that only happening when you switch >> fora. Pfft. > > This is a

DIS: trivial progress

2013-05-02 Thread omd
- Date hack disabled until I can figure out what to do about the duplicate messages. - Slightly updated http://www.agoranomic.org and now on GitHub at https://github.com/comex/agoranomic. (I updated the FLR links, removed the text about me being the Rulekeepor, changed the link to http://www.win.t

DIS: Re: BUS: Integral Switches & Modifiers

2013-05-03 Thread omd
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > Proposal: Numericity (AI=2) > {{{ > Enact a new power-3 rule entitled "Integral Switches" as follows: > An integral switch is a switch defined as such by the rules. An > integral switch may be defined to have any or all of: Defined

DIS: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
testing digest.

DIS: Re: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 3:50 PM, omd wrote: > testing digest. oops, derp.

DIS: Re: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
I fixed something, but I also didn't receive any digest when I ran senddigests. Testing again. Sorry for the spam.

DIS: Re: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM, omd wrote: > I fixed something, but I also didn't receive any digest when I ran > senddigests. Testing again. Sorry for the spam. Never mind. It should be fixed now. Also, the archives are now being properly updated.

Re: DIS: test

2013-05-04 Thread omd
One more test - this time I'm trying to fix the "DIS: Re:" problem.

Re: DIS: Rulekeepor

2013-05-04 Thread omd
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > > On May 5, 2013 1:03 AM, "Henri Bouchard" wrote: >> >> Who is the current Rulekeepor? >> > > It hasn't changed since I published my report... He just subscribed. It's woggle, ruleset is at https://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/current_f

Re: DIS: Entity

2013-05-05 Thread omd
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > What is an entity? > Is it the same thing as a player? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/entity Everything is an entity.

Re: DIS: Re: BAK: [Registrar] Census

2013-05-05 Thread omd
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:12 PM, comex wrote: >> djanatyn [1] c/o Machiavelli 2013-04-29 > > djanatyn can be reached at djana...@gmail.com. Noted.

DIS: Re: BUS: Official CFJs

2013-05-06 Thread omd
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I initiate a criminal CFJ alleging that omd violated Rule 2143 by failing to > report on Adoption Index and Chamber last week. Defendant's arguments: I considered publishing such a report, but Adoption Index of Agoran Decisio

DIS: Re: BUS: Bribery for Proposal Rights

2013-05-06 Thread omd
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > Sounds fun. I join the Bucky Proposal Proxy Party. Even though I don't > think co-authors are going to get VCs once a certain proposal passes. It already passed, sorry :p

DIS: A suggestion for the Herald

2013-05-07 Thread omd
[13:42:48]I can't believe I was distributor for 10 years. [13:42:59]Someone award me "10 Years Long Service" please. I thank you for your long service. :)

Re: DIS: On Agora's Vigintennial

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Like I've said, I support the return of contract law. In fact I'm working on >> a proto at the minute. > > The point is, we don't need complex charters for the basic "let's > run a sub-game based around an event and have it go away after a > c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 6 May 2013, omd wrote: >> > 7421 3 G.What you WILL >> AGAINST > > Is there a bug here I should know about, or you just don't > like the shorthand? I'm somewhat against it because &

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Yeah, I had problem coming up with an easy short phrase. WILL isn't > used so I picked that. (I thought about REQUESTED AND REQUIRED, while > nice and colorful, it isn't that much shorter, and raises the question > about whether "requested" an

DIS: Re: BUS: My perennial plagiaristic pastime

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > Why me? ::checks drop-box:: I was proposing rules copied verbatim from past proposals - somewhat pointlessly. By my count, two or three of my proposals would actually be interesting to adopt; I was hoping for better when I went looking f

DIS: Re: BUS: New Player

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > I intend to become a player at this time. Welcome back! Incidentally, G., would you like me to restore the note about "Gravity Circumference Line Deja Vu Cardboard Duck e^(-kt)", or is your nickname now officially G.? (It was removed at so

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Player

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Incidentally, G., would you like me to restore the note about "Gravity >> Circumference Line Deja Vu Cardboard Duck e^(-kt)", or is your >> nickname now officially G.? (It was removed at some point when you >> deregistered and came back.) > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: My perennial plagiaristic pastime

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: > Oops, sorry, wrong mailing list. > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Henri Bouchard wrote: >> I'm confused. Shouldn't this be in the Business mailing list? The proposals were indeed sent to the business mailing list (http://www.agoranomic.o

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

2013-05-07 Thread omd
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: >> 7419 3 omd Clear the books > AGAINST Why?

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

2013-05-08 Thread omd
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > I vote: NttPF

Re: DIS: Request for H. Distributor omd

2013-05-12 Thread omd
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > As long as you're rewriting headers, can you rewrite them to move Date: > to the bottom? Makes it easier to find. Okay. I currently have the header rewriting disabled because of the Gmail issue, but I'll address that and implement your suggest

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3320 assigned to omd

2013-05-13 Thread omd
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM, woggle wrote: > I hereby appeal this judgment. > > Arguments: > The message was eventually delivered. Per CFJ 1646 and CFJ 2058, it was sent > when it left my technical domain of control, which was before the deadline. > Even if this precedent does not apply, on it

Re: DIS: I am Ienpw III...

2013-05-13 Thread omd
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 6:57 PM, James Beirne wrote: > ...by the way, and I'd like be referred to by that name (if it's not too > much trouble). Noted. Welcome back. - The Registrar

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick late judgement

2013-05-14 Thread omd
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > I don't think it necessarily makes sense to say that the severity of a crime > is linearly proportional to its Class. I don't feel like seven class-2 crimes > ought to equate to one class-14 crime. Quadratic makes more sense to me > persona

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7426-7434

2013-05-15 Thread omd
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Wes Contreras wrote: >> Proposal 7434 (AI=3, Ordinary) by omd >> Fifty-Nine Thirty-Seven > > We vote AGAINST. We find victory by paradox to still be quite possible. How so?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7426-7434

2013-05-15 Thread omd
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Wes Contreras wrote: > Do you contend that an infinite recursion is the only means by which > the truth value of an inquiry CFJ cannot be determined? If so, we > contend that you lack imagination, but would prefer not to demonstrate > such a thing until we can do s

DIS: Re: BUS: All of the attempts to cash a promise in this message fail.

2013-05-20 Thread omd
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > I submit a promise, titled "Gold Z", with empty text, and with condition for > cashing "The sum of all numbers 2^n such that I have a promise titled 'Gold > 2^n' is an even number greater than 2 that is not the sum of two prime > numbers."

DIS: Fwd: Pinging Watchers of Agora Nomic

2013-05-22 Thread omd
For the record, prompted by someone asking to be a Watcher, I just sent this out. -- Forwarded message -- From: omd Date: Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM Subject: Pinging Watchers of Agora Nomic To: b...@fushizen.net, cmil...@brainsprain.net, davidni...@gmail.com, xmb...@gmail.com

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: bleh 2

2013-05-23 Thread omd
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Thinking of defaults, I was also wondering about default > expirations, (as these promises tend to lose relevance over time). I think Horton's destruction without objection is sufficient for those.

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to deputise

2013-05-23 Thread omd
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > If I haven't already voted on these, I vote PRESENT on all of them. > > (I sent a message to the list, but it was down so it told me that it > would retry automatically. I have no idea if it actually did, so eh. > =P) It did. Incidenta

DIS: back up?

2013-05-24 Thread omd
This one's not even my fault :) After the actual domain transfer for agoranomic.org completed yesterday, I attempted to transfer DNS from the servers Taral was using to namecheap's servers, first by choosing namecheap's transfer DNS feature and then by directly changing the list of DNS servers. Af

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-24 Thread omd
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > A party is a type of second-class person and a player. What happens if one is deregistered? > A player CAN flip eir party membership by > announcement, provided that e satisfies any conditions for doing > so in the con

Re: DIS: Fwd: Pinging Watchers of Agora Nomic

2013-05-24 Thread omd
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I was the Registrar who sent out that 2011 email, and everyone flipped a > shit that I removed people without their explicit instruction to do so. IIRC > I ended up removing the non-responders anyway (which was nearly all of the > Watchers a

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