Re: DIS: PM protosal

2010-08-25 Thread Warrigal
"Perpepuum" isn't a word, to my knowledge; perhaps you're after the phrase "perpetual motion machine". "Labour" means "job" or "physical task", so "Lab Worker" might work better there. —Tanner L. Swett

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Rights are important

2010-08-25 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Keba wrote: > Proposal "Rights are important" (AI=3.5, II=1, distributable via fee) > {{{ > Increase the power of Rule 101 "The Rights of Agorans" to 3.5. An AI of 3 is sufficient for this, as an instrument with a power of 3 is not restricted. —Tanner L. Swett

DIS: Re: BUS: Computor informs

2010-08-27 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > The shuttle has completed two very short journeys in quick succession. > For each journey, every player who was active and not the enemy at the > start of it has earned one farad. > > I award myself two capacitors for being onboard at the e

DIS: Re: BUS: More fun with nomenclature

2010-08-27 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > Grand Vizier: 3 > Head Gardner: 3 > Crown Prince: 1 Do you mean "Head Gardener: 2"? —Proofreader Tanner L. Swett

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: More fun with nomenclature

2010-08-27 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:23 PM, ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 17:17 -0400, Warrigal wrote: >> Do you mean "Head Gardener: 2"? > > No; they're equal in the original proposal. And 2 is the default. At least fix the spelling of "gardener". —Proofreader Tanner L. Swett

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2842 assigned to Tanner L. Swett

2010-08-27 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2842 > > ==  Criminal Case 2842 (Interest Index = 2)  === > >    Murphy violated Power-1 Rule 2143 by failing to publish an ATC's >    report in the week starting A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2847-49 assigned to Wooble

2010-08-27 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:41 PM, ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 20:36 -0400, Sgeo wrote: >> There is a nomic [of admittedly questionable nomicness, but not >> existence, I think] called The Robot... > > Warrigal's one where causality works backwards? No, H. Sgeo's one where all events take

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Perpetuum mobile

2010-08-29 Thread Warrigal
"Labour" still means "work", not "worker". May I suggest "Undergrad" or "Intern"? —Tanner L. Swett

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Perpetuum mobile

2010-08-30 Thread Warrigal
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:52 PM, wrote: > AGAINST unless it's "labour" Then it looks like my vote will effectively denounce yours. —Disagreer Tanner L. Swett

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Leet Leadership

2010-09-01 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Keba wrote: > Proposal "Leet Leadership" (AI=1, II=1, distributable via fee) > {{{ > Create a new Rule with power=1 entitled "Leet Leadership": > >        When an interested proposal consisting of exact 1337 words >        (excluding information like name, or adopti

DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-01 Thread Warrigal
Sgeo and I have created an informal alliance, which we're calling the FSCN. The goal of the FSCN is to bring its own members a disproportionate amount of power within Agora, and keep it. We shall accomplish this by promoting proposals giving power to the elite, and allowing players to accumulate po

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Leet Leadership

2010-09-01 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Keba wrote: > Warrigal wrote: >> I suggest adding a clause like this: "If there is ambiguity about the >> number of words in a proposal (for example, if there are hyphenated >> words), it SHOULD be interpreted as containing exactly 1337 wo

Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-02 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I am, though I'm not sure of what I have to offer the FSCN. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Keba wrote: > I would like to join, as I like team play. Well, then, you're in. I hereby inceive the FSCN, composed of me, Sgeo, Tiger, and Keba.

Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-03 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I think that could be accomplished by making capacitors a bit more > accumulable. Are they tradeable, for example? I'd say up the price for > creating them out of ergs, and instead make it so that they don't > automatically go back to erg fo

Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-03 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Keba wrote: > Hm, I like the weekly destroying of ergs and capacitors, because I like > the way the current economy works, so I am against a manual destroying. Well, one of our stated purposes is to allow players to accumulate power. How do you propose that this b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ARGH

2010-09-03 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > When an officer becomes inactive, all of eir offices become Assumed. > Anyone can assume the office, and even immediately resign it if it > seems likely that things will get done by deputization more > efficiently when the office is empty. F

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Warrigal
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keba wrote: > Proposal "White Renaissance" (AI=1, II=1, distributable via fee) > {{{ > Amend Rule 2199 "Ribbons" by removing: > >        (except for White Ribbons, which can be awarded at any time >        within a month after they are earned) > > [So, no one posses

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-07 Thread Warrigal
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Warrigal wrote: >> While this does result in White Ribbons not being needed for a >> Renaissance win (as White is no longer mentioned in the rule), it does >> not result in White Ribbons

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-08 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Warrigal  wrote: >> > > The asset defined is not "white ribbon"; it is "ribbon". Every ribbon >> > > then has a color. A white ribbon is a ribbon whose co

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: White Renaissance

2010-09-08 Thread Warrigal
Note that "class" isn't actually defined by the rules. It could just as easily be "type", or even "set". If the rules state that something is a class of asset, that doesn't really tell us anything we didn't already know. Now, here's what the key thing to realize is, as I see it. An asset only exis

DIS: Re: BUS: What can proposals actually do?

2010-09-08 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > My argument is that this is governed by R2140(c).  A Proposal is an > instrument of power, and if it attempts to create a token, it is > "modifying a substantive aspect" of the rule defining the Tokens (my > argument implies that it is the token

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: The FSCN

2010-09-08 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Does fungibility break this? No, because capacitors are not a currency. —Tanner L. Swett

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Rebellion Die roll

2010-09-10 Thread Warrigal
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I was also thinking towards the end that it's a pretty good Prisoner's > Dilemma situation set up.  Towards the end (when chance was pretty > near 50/50) there were a few people who could better their position by > one by rebelling; then there w

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2010-09-10 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Hawkishness (Rule 1871) of active players > - > > Hovering:     Tanner L. Swett >              Taral > > All other active players are hemming-and-hawing. CoE: this is no longer defined. —Tanner L. Swett

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Rebellion Die roll

2010-09-10 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > No, PD is was exactly at one point.  The logic: "All of us non-rebels left > will move lower on the list if the rebellion wins.  So we (collectively) > want the rebellion to fail, so we shouldn't rebel (that's cooperation). > However, individua

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Ribbon Report

2010-09-10 Thread Warrigal
I say if the report was published at time T, and it does not say it's a report from time S, then it's a report from time T. —Tanner L. Swett

DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Pool Report

2010-09-11 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > CoE: This is missing about 6 proposals. Quite possibly every single > one proposed since I stopped record keeping. It is indeed missing every single one proposed since you stopped recordkeeping. I wasn't aware that there were any; somehow,

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Team balancing

2010-09-12 Thread Warrigal
>        To create a Team Balancer means to create a new second-class >        Player entitled "Team Balancer " followed by the smallest >        positive integer that would cause the player to have a unique >        name, which means there has never existed a player with that >        name. Such a

DIS: Re: BUS: P fix

2010-09-12 Thread Warrigal
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Proposal: P fix (AI=1.7, II=0, Distributable) I'm interpreting this as meaning that you thereby make this proposal Distributable. —Promotor Tanner L. Swett

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6842-6846

2010-09-13 Thread Warrigal
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Warrigal wrote: >> Also, I question whether violating a SHALL is a rule violation if >> GUILTY is inappropriate. > > Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? I momentarily forgot the text of "

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Catchup League Table

2010-09-13 Thread Warrigal
On Tuesday, September 7, 2010, Warrigal wrote: > Without two objections from members of my team, I intend to change its > name to "Confederate". > > —Confederator Tanner L. Swett If possible, I do so. -- Cantr, a browser-based RPG: http://www.cantr.net/ Create a Lojba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: ditto

2010-09-13 Thread Warrigal
Note to self: I now have 21 Rests. —Pariah Tanner L. Swett, still dangerously close to the edge

DIS: A Thesis

2010-09-17 Thread Warrigal
Conclusion: List-of-Succession-like things are a huge headache. Let's go back to VLOPs. —Tanner L. Swett

DIS: Re: BUS: Erratification

2010-09-19 Thread Warrigal
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:44 AM, comex wrote: > Proposal: Erratification > > Ratify the following incorrect document: { 1 + 1 = 3 } The definition: "When a public document is ratified, the gamestate is minimally modified so that the ratified document was completely true and accurate at the time i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2860 assigned to Taral

2010-09-19 Thread Warrigal
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Taral wrote: > On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:35 PM, omd wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Taral wrote: >>> 9. omd is the Pariah, and Rule 2312 applies to all players, including >>> judges. >> >> No I'm not. > > Oh? I was pretty sure I checked the records...

DIS: Re: BUS: Caring about it [attn Sgeo, Yally, Tiger, Murphy]

2010-09-26 Thread Warrigal
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:17 PM, ais523 wrote: > On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 18:10 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I intend, without objection from 2 members of Imperial and without >> objection from 2 members of Team 4, to move Tiger to Team 4. > > I object. > I note that it's in Sgeo's and Yally's bes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report, 24 September 2010

2010-09-27 Thread Warrigal
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I have no problem with missing a proposal.  Announcing that it's > inconsequential because you think the proposal is stupid isn't > something I think we expect from our Promotor, though. Noted. I will be more civil in the future.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Deputy Herald] ambiguous disambiguation?

2010-10-03 Thread Warrigal
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:46 PM, omd wrote: > I hereby invoke my R101 right to request formal reconsideration of a > judicial determination that I should be punished, and appeal the > judgement of CFJ 1631, as ruling that I registered three days later > than my original attempt prevents me from t

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2865 judged FALSE by Taral

2010-10-03 Thread Warrigal
Gratuitous gratuitous evidence: to my knowledge, making a judicial declaration is not a regulated action. —Tanner L. Swett On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2865 > > ===  CFJ 2865 (Interest Index = 1)  ===

DIS: Confession

2010-10-03 Thread Warrigal
I believe that I did not distribute proposals or publish a pool report last week, and thus I am in contravention of the rules requiring me to do so. I will try to get them distributed later today. —Tanner L. Swett

DIS: Re: BUS: I'm totally sorry

2010-10-04 Thread Warrigal
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Keba wrote: > I resign all my offices and go on hold. > > (What happens with the speaker office now?) I think that since the office of the Speaker is Imposed, you cannot resign it. —Tanner L. Swett

DIS: Re: BUS: Move along, nothing to see here

2010-10-07 Thread Warrigal
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:55 PM, John Smith wrote: > CfJ:The second NoV quoted below is not valid > > Arguments: According to Rule 2230, "A NoV is valid if and only if... no > previous valid NoV specified substantially identical information (i.e. the > same violation for the same specific act)."

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2878 assigned to omd

2010-10-11 Thread Warrigal
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:22 PM, omd wrote: > Maybe all recursive statements should just be considered > indeterminate, regardless of how they would come out if we attempted > to break them apart? Due to Rule 2215, it would be illegal for me to make an unqualified public statement consisting of th

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2878 assigned to omd

2010-10-11 Thread Warrigal
2010/10/11 : > That statement still depends on its own truth value, just indirectly. Due to Rule 2215, it would be illegal for me to make an unqualified public statement consisting of the following string (expect with the number 3000 incremented), followed by a quotation mark, followed by the sam

DIS: Re: BUS: Resetting and empowering myself

2010-10-17 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > CFJ, disqualifying Tanner L. Swett:  In the message quoted in > evidence, Tanner L. Swett gained at least one erg. I don't think you've assigned this CFJ yet. Do you intend to? —Tanner L. Swett

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [CotC] CFJ 2888 assigned to Tanner L. Swett

2010-10-17 Thread Warrigal
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> ===  CFJ 2888 (Interest Index = 0)   > >> Judge:                                  Tanner L. Swett > > CoE, accepted:  this was ineffective, Tanner was supine (I hadn't > yet updated the DB to be aware of it).

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