On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Warrigal<ihope12...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> > > The asset defined is not "white ribbon"; it is "ribbon". Every ribbon
>> > > then has a color. A white ribbon is a ribbon whose color is white;
>> > > even though the rules stop using the term "white ribbon", white does
>> > > not cease to be a color. (Likewise, a rule can have power 3 even
>> > > though the rules never define 3 as a valid non-negative rational
>> > > number.) Even if it white did cease to be a color for some reason, the
>> > > ribbon would have to revert to a default color; there is no reason for
>> > > a ribbon to stop existing simply because its color ceases to be
>> > > defined, any more than a proposal or a player would cease to exist if
>> > > its Title ceased to be defined.
>
> Counterargument:  "Each color of Ribbon is a currency." (R2199).
> This implies (by currency definition) that the individual fungible classes
> of ribbon are in fact distinct enough to cease to exist if their color
> wholly ceases to be defined.  -G.

"A currency" just means "fungible within itself"; it says nothing
about distinction from other assets. "Fungible" certainly never means
"ceasing to exist when one of its attributes ceases to be defined"!

If a ribbon can exist without its color being specified by the rules
*or* white is still considered a color even though it's never defined
as a color, then white ribbons still exist in some form. I believe
that *both* of these are true.

Have we already called the relevant CFJs, i.e. "There exists a white
ribbon" and "For some white ribbon that existed before 'white ribbon'
ceased to be defined by the rules, that ribbon still exists"?

—Further Arguer Tanner L. Swett

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