Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My identity

2008-09-24 Thread Elliott Hird
On 24 Sep 2008, at 19:27, comex wrote: Goethe's arguments in CFJ 2165 would disagree with you. Oh the irony.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Happiness in Slavery

2008-09-24 Thread Elliott Hird
On 24 Sep 2008, at 22:18, ais523 wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 22:13 +0100, Elliott Hird wrote: I transfer all my VP to ais523. Why the VP? Trying to bribe me? -- ais523 You bet.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AAA: Subsidy

2008-09-24 Thread Elliott Hird
On 25 Sep 2008, at 00:14, Benjamin Schultz wrote: I think I have this right: I mill 8 * 5 = 7. I mill 8 - 8 = 0. I harvest 5704, a Democratic proposal, for 4 points. I harvest 5705, a Democratic proposal, for 4 points. I mill 8 / 4 = 2. I deposit a 2 crop in the RBoA. - Benjamin Schultz

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: My identity

2008-09-25 Thread Elliott Hird
On 25 Sep 2008, at 15:15, comex wrote: When a public document is ratified, the gamestate is modified so that the ratified document was completely true and accurate at the time it was published. Nevertheless, the ratification of a public document does not invalidate, reve

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 2168-69 assigned to root

2008-09-25 Thread Elliott Hird
On 25 Sep 2008, at 20:55, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: root's judgement generally (though not specifically) goes against CFJ 1879 for computers in general. I believe R2200 was created in direct response to the original judgment

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Required Quarterly Nominations

2008-09-25 Thread Elliott Hird
On 25 Sep 2008, at 21:34, Geoffrey Spear wrote: No attempt has been made to change the holders of these offices since the beginning of April, so I'm required to make nominations. For Conductor, I nominate Murphy and root. For Clerk of the Courts, I nominate Murphy and Goethe. For IADoP, I no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: why wait?

2008-09-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 25 Sep 2008, at 17:57, Kerim Aydin wrote: Not only did e try this before, but e was specifically warned that it was a breach of trust, the severity of it was pointed out, and the Rules were changed as a result to amplify that this was a breach of trust. This was done knowingly, willingly,

DIS: Re: BUS: I'm Still FINE, Really, Honestly This Time

2008-09-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Sep 2008, at 16:06, Elliott Hird wrote: Having 1 Servant Coin, I leave I'm Still FINE (dissolving it). f all of this fails, i need to do it without 3 objections ff :|

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: why wait?

2008-09-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Sep 2008, at 17:13, Kerim Aydin wrote: Well you did come forward a week later but I'm wondering as to your purpose, were you exploring a bug in the self-ratification-of-identity rule? (I can't remember what you said when you originally told us about it). It's turned into an interestin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's Fix This Mess

2008-09-26 Thread Elliott Hird
On 26 Sep 2008, at 20:33, Taral wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hereby apologize to Agorans (yet again) for spamming the lists like this. I would love to know what's changing in all these iterations... You could read them... an

DIS: Re: BUS: Preventing another Annabel Crisis the easy way

2008-09-27 Thread Elliott Hird
On 27 Sep 2008, at 17:45, ais523 wrote: I submit the following proposal (AI=1, II=1, Title="The IADoP is always right"): Append the following paragraph to rule 2138: {{{ The portion of a public message purporting to be an IADoP's report that lists the holder of each office is self-rati

DIS: Re: BUS: Notification of alternate address

2008-09-27 Thread Elliott Hird
On 27 Sep 2008, at 20:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message hereby informs the Agoran community that this email address is one that I will occasionally use to send messages to Agora, and messages from this address are likely to be from me. However, I will continue to use [EMAIL PROTECT

DIS: Re: BUS: Plagiarism

2008-09-27 Thread Elliott Hird
On 28/09/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I submit the following proposal: > > Proposal: switch off the fountain (AI=3) How dare you! > { > WHEREAS the Town Fountain is an ugly triviality of ASCII art, unlike > the fine Map of Agora, > > and whereas the scamming spirit of the game is adequa

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2180 assigned to Sir Toby

2008-09-28 Thread Elliott Hird
On 28 Sep 2008, at 22:57, Ed Murphy wrote: [Disclaimer: HRC is still used as a placeholder for now, though tusho has pretty much admitted to being the sole party behind [EMAIL PROTECTED] I absolutely have not.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Informs

2008-09-28 Thread Elliott Hird
On 28 Sep 2008, at 23:22, comex wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Referencing Goethe's most recent thoughts, I recommend a very long CHOKEY for me. Y'know, I recommend EXILE. Good to know.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Informs

2008-09-28 Thread Elliott Hird
On 28 Sep 2008, at 23:46, Ed Murphy wrote: No, you don't. Indeed! I was ... er... seeing if you'd pick up on that!

DIS: Re: BUS: Prop transfer

2008-09-28 Thread Elliott Hird
On 29/09/2008, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I transfer a prop from myself to tusho for attempting to build a > spinner control for the Assessor's vote entry form. (I couldn't > figure out how to adapt it to multiple controls per page, so ended > up adapting a different example. But the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Prop transfer

2008-09-29 Thread Elliott Hird
On 29 Sep 2008, at 02:27, Ed Murphy wrote: I tried replacing this: with this: max="10"> max="10"> and it generated two pairs of buttons, but one pair was the wrong size, and they both affected the same input control. Ah. Oh dear. I probably should have tested multiple controls. :-)

DIS: Re: BUS: nomination

2008-09-29 Thread Elliott Hird
On 29 Sep 2008, at 13:32, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I nominate Wooble as Mad Scientist. Yer just in it for the deputization...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: nomination

2008-09-29 Thread Elliott Hird
On 29 Sep 2008, at 14:18, Geoffrey Spear wrote: No, I'm just opposed to officers blatantly abusing their powers. The power is a blatant abuse in the first place.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] elections

2008-09-30 Thread Elliott Hird
On 30 Sep 2008, at 14:07, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, where da mad scientist elections be at? The nomination period hasn't ended yet. Ah. Silly me.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5727-5730

2008-09-30 Thread Elliott Hird
On 30 Sep 2008, at 18:12, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I challenge this message's claim that it was not published by tusho. I am not Dvorak Herring, nor [EMAIL PROTECTED], nor Annabel. I am Phill, previously known as tusho. That's it.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Knocking at the back door

2008-09-30 Thread Elliott Hird
On 30 Sep 2008, at 18:35, Kerim Aydin wrote: I thought the whole *purpose* of MMI was to set up this conceit, that CAN and CANNOT sets the game "physics". This is supported by every precedent I am aware of as well as words like IMPOSSIBLE. Of course I am aware of the self-referential issue of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5727-5730

2008-09-30 Thread Elliott Hird
On 30 Sep 2008, at 19:55, ais523 wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 14:53 -0400, comex wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I challenge this message's claim that it was not published by tusho. I challenge this message's claim that it was not pubilshed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5727-5730

2008-09-30 Thread Elliott Hird
On 30 Sep 2008, at 20:47, ais523 wrote: Actually I posted that to a-d deliberately, it was a bit too frivolous for the Public Forum IMO. (It was partly an illusion to the spoon-discussion memes that blow up out of nowhere in B every now and then, such as players signing messages in s-d as from ea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-09-30 Thread Elliott Hird
On 01/10/2008, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:15 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 3. bayes.py is a script whose purpose is to act on behalf of Bayes in >> a generally autonomous way, controlled by the parties to this >> contract. >> 4. bayes.py CAN cause Bay

DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-09-30 Thread Elliott Hird
On 01/10/2008, Dvorak Herring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree to the Bayes contract if I can. > > -- > Dvorak Herring > You cannot.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 05:14, Ian Kelly wrote: It categorizes adopted proposals as spam, rejected proposals as non-spam, and votes against spam? -root Bingo!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: How to win by bribery

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 04:16, Ed Murphy wrote: I need to check the exact details of Goethe's and BobTHJ's sell tickets. I have the votes as 15F / 16A without those. Will take care of it later tonight. Haha. It is all for naught. ais523 was trying to continue eir long-running streak of winning onc

DIS: Re: BUS: Why did I go on hold? I can't vote on a lot of proposals now..

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 04:33, Sgeo wrote: I come off hold. Because you had a cold.

DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes voting

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 13:32, Bayes wrote: Bayes votes as follows: 5732 FORx2 5733 AGAINSTx2 -- bayes 2008-10-01 13:10:18 +0100 IT WORKS!! The machine works!! Although I'm kind of surprised it agreed with my titles... Really, neither of them is a good proposal. HOWEVER. That's irrelevant. It w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 15:10, comex wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It categorizes adopted proposals as spam, rejected proposals as non-spam, and votes against spam? The other way around. It votes FOR stuff like adopted proposals. Oh. Yeah.

Re: DIS: RE: Re: BUS: How to win by bribery

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 15:50, Alexander Smith wrote: Also, I did send the deputisation for the monster for the Assessor to the lists; but I had to do it from a different account and it seemed not to get through. I have proof of having sent the message, and I'll post it to a-b along with all the header

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: How to win by bribery

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 17:07, Alexander Smith wrote: That isn't a miswording, I sent the message but I had to send it from a different address, and it seems not to have arrived. H. Distributor Taral, can you check a-o to see if something got stuck there? Note that it's worth 8VP to you, quite p

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 19:06, Bayes wrote: I submit the following proposal, titled " the" (AI=1): {{{ Was only meant to send once, sorry.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 19:05, Bayes wrote: I submit the following proposal, titled "No spring ii office and" (AI=1): {{{ If proposal 5111 was adopted, amend rule 1871 by adding the following information: with this text: the sum of the source and destination are the nominees, quorum is 1/2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 20:54, Ed Murphy wrote: Make it a bit more grammar-specific and I'll support it for Mad Scientist. Heh, it wouldn't be able to do Monsterization atm, but I could definitely write one - detecting nouns shouldn't be too hard.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 22:35, Ben Caplan wrote: I believe it was decided that the most natural Monsterization of "judgment" was "Monsteredict". Can you write a script to make that kind of analysis? Did I say it'd produce the most natural monsterization all the time?

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:02, Bayes wrote: I submit the following proposal, titled "Ordinary for a of ff " (AI=1): {{{ Repeal rule 2142 Modify Rule 2138, replace: c) A term explicitly defined by that chamber. A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:09, Ian Kelly wrote: What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are anything that we might actually consider adopting. -root Bayes is a Fully Mechanical Automation of Gamular Playing, Striving to Play in As Many Forms As Possible, Regardless of Skill Level,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:27, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:09, Ian Kelly wrote: What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are anything that we might ac

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:27, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:09, Ian Kelly wrote: What exactly is the goal of this? None of these proposals are anything that we might ac

DIS: Re: BUS: Pledge

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:37, Ian Kelly wrote: I agree to the following: This is a public contract. This is a pledge. root CAN amend or terminate this contract at any time by announcement. Any person CAN act on behalf of root to cast on any Agoran decision a vote endorsing the partnership that wa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 02/10/2008, Ben Caplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 01 October 2008 05:01:41 pm Elliott Hird wrote: >> On 1 Oct 2008, at 22:35, Ben Caplan wrote: >> > I believe it was decided that the most natural Monsterization >> > of "judgment" was &qu

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5731-5731

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
We heard you the first time with your giant toppost. On 02/10/2008, Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The quoted notice is invalid because it lacks information required by > Rule 107. Specifically, the following information was not provided: > > (c) A clear indication of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5731-5731

2008-10-01 Thread Elliott Hird
On 02/10/2008, Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Elliott Hird wrote: >> We heard you the first time with your giant toppost. > > I apologize for spamming everyone with these notices, but there were > five separate proposal distributions that I was deal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: MC

2008-10-07 Thread Elliott Hird
On 08/10/2008, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I intend, with monstrous consent, to add this rule to the ruleset >> {Sgeo gains the patent title Scamster. This rule repeals itself after >> Sgeo gains the Patent Title Scamster

DIS: Re: BUS: Russian Roulette

2008-10-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:00, Ed Murphy wrote: The AFO joins this contract. I assume that I can contact the AFO by contacting each of its members? -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inquiry case

2008-10-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:37, comex wrote: > Sorry, but this is trivially TRUE. ehird did, in fact, decide to disclose the password to the AFO's other partners. yah, pikhq too -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Russian Roulette

2008-10-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 20:58, Ian Kelly wrote: The Embassy also joins this contract. Please specify how I can contact the Embassy, as it is not a player. c/o you? Thanks. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Russian Roulette - obligations.txt

2008-10-10 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 Oct 2008, at 22:11, Ian Kelly wrote: Note the proposed revision would fix this. -root It is quite irrelevant now. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Subgame

2008-10-11 Thread Elliott Hird
On 11 Oct 2008, at 20:14, Taral wrote: Which game is that? http://groups.google.com/group/nomic-217 -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Subgame

2008-10-11 Thread Elliott Hird
On 11 Oct 2008, at 21:05, Ed Murphy wrote: H. Ambassador BobTHJ, I suggest flipping recognitions as follows: PerlNomic -> Friendly Normish -> Friendly Nomic 217 -> Neutral Civ3Democracy -> Neutral NooPolis -> Neutral Dragonomic-> Abandoned I agree, but wit

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Backing away slowly

2008-10-11 Thread Elliott Hird
On 11 Oct 2008, at 23:28, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I call for judgement on the following statement, barring Ivan Hope: "If Ivan Hope takes actions in the PerlNomic game which cause em to become an active player of PerlNomic, e will become a party to the PerlNomic Partnership contract." Argument: e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Backing away slowly

2008-10-11 Thread Elliott Hird
On 11 Oct 2008, at 23:56, ihope wrote: That is not relevant to the CFJ. --Ivan Hope CXXVII In your opinion. I was merely noting that I had actually asked you this already. -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Agoran Weekly Journal

2008-10-12 Thread Elliott Hird
On 12 Oct 2008, at 14:50, Ed Murphy wrote: THE AGORAN WEEKLY JOURNAL VOLUME 52, BACK ISSUE 4 Friday, August 31, 2007 lol wut -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2008-10-13 Thread Elliott Hird
On 13 Oct 2008, at 14:15, Benjamin Schultz wrote: 5765 O 1 1.0 Wooble 1 x FOR, 1 x AGAINST Well, it's readable now. :P (I'm sure your mailer has a "reply" button, though, that'd also handle quoting for you...) -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The People's Bank of Agora -- like the RBoA, only communist!

2008-10-13 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 00:04, Ian Kelly wrote: Oops, I misread paragraph 20. Ignore me. -root Even your first deposit fails - it'd be for 9 coins. Still, welcome Comrade! -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: [PBA] Coinkeepor's report

2008-10-13 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 00:24, Elliott Hird wrote: RECENT EVENTS -- - 2008-10-13 - The People's Bank of Agora is formed. -- - Should

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The People's Bank of Agora -- like the RBoA, only communist!

2008-10-13 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 00:38, Ian Kelly wrote: I disagree; there's no reason that the deposit should fail just because I misstated the exchange rate. I just deposited and withdrew the same crop 10 times in a row for a net of 0 coins. -root I don't want people to make booboos with their exchange

DIS: Re: BUS: The People's Bank of Agora -- like the RBoA, only communist!

2008-10-14 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 05:16, Charles Reiss wrote: Oops? I intend, with majority Comrade consent, to cause the PBA to register. I intend, with majority Comrade consent, to cause the PBA to become a Farmer. -woggle Any other contracts we need it to join for the currencies we trade in? -- ehir

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: blackmail

2008-10-14 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 16:22, comex wrote: I don't understand... where did the grudge come from? Anyway, it clearly was not envisioned by the contract that anyone would join, so it seems to me that equity is achieved only if Wooble leaves. In ##nomic Wooble has admitted that it's petty spite tha

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: banking

2008-10-14 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 18:49, Roger Hicks wrote: Just curious: Why the objections? As RBOA chit holders wouldn't this change be to your benefit? BobTHJ Why do you want your capitalist PIG HANDS on our beautiful communist bank?! Hm??! -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: fnord

2008-10-14 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 20:44, Taral wrote: You haven't been a party since the Flower Incident. Do not talk about the Flower Incident. Penalties have been made. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yay dangling pointers.

2008-10-14 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 21:26, ais523 wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-14 at 15:24 -0500, Pavitra wrote: I consent. I support. I vote FOR. I endorse the Monster. I act on behalf of BobTHJ. Didn't Quazie try that a while ago? -- ais523 No but you did the same for filling tickets. I think this is trying t

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Registrar election

2008-10-14 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 22:05, Kerim Aydin wrote: If a Player registers, e should take responsibilities. I vote Bayes. Say that to $EVERY_PARTNERSHIP_HERE. Btw, if Bayes gets elected e will deregister and Seyab will pop up. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Registrar election

2008-10-14 Thread Elliott Hird
On 14 Oct 2008, at 22:41, Charles Reiss wrote: Bayes could just resign. Wouldn't that be easier? -woggle Oh. ... Yea. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Registrar election

2008-10-14 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15/10/2008, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Elliott Hird wrote: >> On 14 Oct 2008, at 22:05, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >>> If a Player registers, e should take responsibilities. I vote Bayes. >> >> >> Say that to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The People's Bank of Agora -- like the RBoA, only communist!

2008-10-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Oct 2008, at 15:13, ais523 wrote: I join the PBA. I PBA-deposit an 8 crop. I PBA-withdraw a 4 crop. (Yay, the PBA's first actual crop trade, as opposed to mere deposits!) -- ais523 You now have a 4 crop, and the PBA has none. The PBA now has an 8 crop. You have no coins. All succe

DIS: Re: BUS: The People's Bank of Agora -- like the RBoA, only communist!

2008-10-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Oct 2008, at 01:13, Charles Reiss wrote: This time, hopefully with effect: I PBA-deposit a 0 crop. I PBA-deposit a 4 crop. -woggle All works out nicely. You have 26 coins. -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: banking

2008-10-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Oct 2008, at 15:29, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I join the People's Bank. I PBA-deposit two 0 crops. I PBA-withdraw an 8 crop. --Wooble You now have 10 coins and an 8 crop. 0 crop rate = 11, qty = 3 8 crop rate = 14, qty = 0 -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Forum-swapping, but overtly this time

2008-10-15 Thread Elliott Hird
On 15 Oct 2008, at 15:05, ais523 wrote: I intend, without objection, to make the IRC channel ##nomic on the IRC server irc://irc.freenode.net:6667 a Discussion Forum. I proto-object. I don't think ##nomic should be tied to anything - it's an unofficial, non-partisian service. -- ehird

DIS: Re: I love Rule 2198 (Re: BUS: Equity)

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 15:28, Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:35 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, you can't. With the agreement of the other members of Bayes, I intend to caus

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2219 assigned to root

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 07:01, Ian Kelly wrote: There's not enough context here. The fact that RFC 2 was created via RFC 1 demonstrates that the rules were at least somewhat amendable, not that they are. Would the initiator please provide the text of RFC 1 and whatever rules were in effect at the t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar]

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 16:38, Ed Murphy wrote: Wooble wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tue 7 Oct 22:19:33 oklopol registers (disputed, since ratified). Tue 7 Oct 23:21:15 the Monster registers (disputed, since ratified). CoE: neither of these rat

DIS: Re: BUS: Banking

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 22:45, Pavitra wrote: I deposit one crop each of the digits 1, 4, 8, and 9 with the PBA. I deposit 1 2 Crop with the RBoA. I withdraw 1 VP from the RBoA and deposit it with the PBA. ☭ Comrade Pavrita Thanks! You have 111 coins. -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/Farming

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 23:02, Charles Reiss wrote: I mill 4 / 7 = X. I mill 4 / 7 = X. I mill 3 - 4 = X. I RBoA-withdraw an 8 crop for 61 chits. I mill 4 * 8 = X. I mill 4 + 6 = X. I PBA-deposit a 3 crop. I PBA-deposit a 6 crop. I RBoA-withdraw a 7 crop for 72 chits. I RBoA-withdraw a 1 crop fo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17/10/2008, Dvorak Herring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I still a member of the Bayes Contract? > What do I need to do to leave the Bayes contract? > > -- > Dvorak Herring > Consent to your parting, I think.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bayes

2008-10-16 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17/10/2008, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Elliott Hird > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> What do I need to do to leave the Bayes contract? >> Consent to your parting, I think. > > And Wooble's. After e leaves eir consent is unneeded. >

DIS: Re: BUS: Banking

2008-10-17 Thread Elliott Hird
On 16 Oct 2008, at 22:45, Pavitra wrote: I deposit one crop each of the digits 1, 4, 8, and 9 with the PBA. I deposit 1 2 Crop with the RBoA. I withdraw 1 VP from the RBoA and deposit it with the PBA. ☭ Comrade Pavrita actually you have 75 coins, sorry -- ehird

Re: DIS: Survey question

2008-10-17 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17 Oct 2008, at 16:39, Kerim Aydin wrote: I'm contemplating some large-scale protos and a thesis, so I have a question for all. Who has performed an action, other than changing key, primarily for the sake of earning a note for the action (as opposed to performing the action for its

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Incorporate the Bank

2008-10-17 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17 Oct 2008, at 18:14, Roger Hicks wrote: Without three objections I make the above changes. BobTHJ I like the part where you ripped off the PBA. No fear. Floating rates and the beautiful power of COMMUNISM shall overthrow you! BEGONE, CAPITALIST PI- transfer interrupted -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Monster] shaking up MWoPs, fixing loophole

2008-10-17 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17 Oct 2008, at 18:18, Roger Hicks wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 06:44, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I act on behalf of the Monster to award 100 points to Wooble. I act on behalf of the Monster to award 100 points to Taral. This is a win announcement: One or more players (

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Incorporate the Bank

2008-10-17 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17 Oct 2008, at 18:23, Roger Hicks wrote: What part was that? (considering this was posted before the PBA's inception?) BobTHJ You stole the ideas from my mind (they've been there since a few months back) >:( -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA, RBoA, PBA

2008-10-17 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17 Oct 2008, at 20:51, ais523 wrote: I PBA-deposit a 5 crop and a Points Voucher (for ^34). I PBA-withdraw a 6 crop and a 0 crop (spending ^27). I mill 5/6=X and 5/6=X using my two Division Mills. I mill 4*8=X and 4*8=X using my two Multiplication Mills. I mill 3-4=X using my only Subtractio

DIS: Re: BUS: It's reasonable, I think. (PBA)

2008-10-17 Thread Elliott Hird
On 17 Oct 2008, at 21:18, Charles Reiss wrote: I object. -woggle Why? -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 5765 - 5778

2008-10-18 Thread Elliott Hird
On 18 Oct 2008, at 19:42, Charles Reiss wrote: I PBA-withdraw a 1 crop. I RBoA-deposit a 9 crop. I RBoA-withdraw a 1 crop. I harvest 101, the number of a recently amended rule (for I think 9 crops). -woggle Works out fine. Now I'm going to write a script that does all this stuff for me. :

DIS: Re: BUS: banking

2008-10-18 Thread Elliott Hird
On 18 Oct 2008, at 22:30, Pavitra wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2008 01:23:02 pm Pavitra wrote: Without three objections I intend to set the RBoA's exchange rate of Coins to 10 chits and cause the RBoA to agree to the PBA. Having received no objections, I do so. I deposit 75 Coins with the R

DIS: Re: BUS: FILTHY CAPITALIST PIGS

2008-10-18 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19/10/2008, Pavitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I initiate the following Bank Motion: > { > Join the People's Bank of Agora. > > Deposit with the PBA all assets owned by the RBoA that are instances > of Eligible Currencies as defined by the PBA. > } > > I approve of this motion. > > ☭ Comrade P

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Distribution of proposals 5794-5802

2008-10-18 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19/10/2008, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't know how to vote? Don't waste your voice with PRESENT; vote LLAMA! > No. > I vote as follows: > >> 5794 O 1 1.0 Murphy Return of the Repeal-o-Matic > LLAMA (FOR) > >> 5795 O 1 1.0 Murphy Stop letting the Mad Scient

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: Deflating coins and inflating crops

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19 Oct 2008, at 17:13, ihope wrote: I'm afraid recordkeepors aren't allowed to ignore actions they don't like. Sorry. Actually, I have previously stated that it is a safeguard mechanism for people, and I treat "X (this gives me Y)" as not fundamentally different to "X. This gives me Y."

DIS: PBA question

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
The PBA itself currently has 142 coins... I think. Is it a good idea to distribute these among the members? I don't think so - it'd just mean that over time, everyone would get richer and richer. That would be silly. However, making them be destroyed instead of transferred to the PBA requ

DIS: Re: BUS: Marks

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19 Oct 2008, at 21:03, comex wrote: I give 1 marks to the PBA. That's nice, but marks are not an Eligible Currency. -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2008

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19 Oct 2008, at 21:20, comex wrote: Proposal: Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2008 Amend the contract known as the Reformed Bank of Agora by setting the exchange rate of Coins to 0.1; furthermore, create 700,000,000,000 Coins in the possession of the Reform

Re: DIS: PBA question

2008-10-19 Thread Elliott Hird
On 19 Oct 2008, at 23:52, Ian Kelly wrote: The number in circulation should be equal to the number required to withdraw everything. If there are extra coins in circulation, the excess are worthless. If there are insufficient coins in circulation, then the coinholders have lost value. -root

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: PBA question

2008-10-20 Thread Elliott Hird
On 20 Oct 2008, at 14:07, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I do agree that the existing coins in the PBA's possession should be destroyed, and that withdrawing assets should involve the destruction of coins rather than transfer to the PBA. Feel free to write a different draft, I'm amending it enough as-i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Bank run, hopefully working this time

2008-10-20 Thread Elliott Hird
On 20 Oct 2008, at 19:32, Ian Kelly wrote: Can somebody post the current PBA rates and holdings? -root ais is kindly working them out for me. I recommend that you change all your chits into coins soon, as I believe the RBoA is now effectively worthless. -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Converging the gamestates

2008-10-20 Thread Elliott Hird
On 20 Oct 2008, at 20:39, Ian Kelly wrote: By my calculations, the RBoA has at least 813 coins and very little else. That make coins worth more than 20 chits apiece. I believe I have 4337 chits. I withdraw 394 coins for 4334 chits; if I have fewer chits than 4334, then I withdraw as many coin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Converging the gamestates

2008-10-20 Thread Elliott Hird
On 20 Oct 2008, at 21:10, Ian Kelly wrote: There were 75 deposited by Pavitra, 75 deposited by Wooble, and 663 from the scam. What am I missing? -root Thanks. I missed Pavitra's. Fixed. RBoA has 850 coins. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Converging the gamestates

2008-10-20 Thread Elliott Hird
On 20 Oct 2008, at 21:22, warrigal wrote: I withdraw as many coins as possible from the RBoA. --Warrigal of Escher I have absolutely no idea how many this is due to the recent stuff. Anyone know? -- ehird

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