DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3037 assigned to Walker

2011-06-20 Thread Charles Walker
Is there any precedent on whether public messages can be sent as attachments or embedded media files? -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivity

2011-06-27 Thread Charles Walker
On 27 June 2011 03:37, omd wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Pavitra > wrote: >> On 06/26/2011 09:03 PM, omd wrote: >>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Charles Walker >>> wrote: >>>> I intend, without objection, to make Droowl inactive. >&

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Register

2011-06-27 Thread Charles Walker
y quiet in there, and the game is mainly discussed on the mailing lists, but occasionally there are Agora-related discussions over irc. It's not compulsory or necessary to pay attention to these. -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: We need more patent titles

2011-06-28 Thread Charles Walker
x27;s entry (if it is supposed to be an entry). -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposals

2011-06-28 Thread Charles Walker
ept that the > title is "Point Vouchers". > I think this fails because you have to publish to body of text. -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2011-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 June 2011 18:12, Joshua Murphy wrote: > I hereby register with the nickname of Math321. Welcome! -- Charles Walker

DIS: Election Proto

2011-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
select one of the leaders as the outcome. If there are no options, the outcome is null. }} -- Charles Walker

DIS: This message may not have been sent by

2011-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
Are any other Gmail users getting an annoying "This message may not have been sent by:" at the top of all of their own messages to the lists? -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: This message may not have been sent by

2011-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 June 2011 11:09, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 29 June 2011 10:03, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Not to my own messages, but I am getting that warning from all >> messages sent by you. > > ditto > > How are you sending them? > Just through https://mail.google.com, as per usual. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: This message may not have been sent by

2011-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 June 2011 11:30, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 29 June 2011 11:19, Charles Walker wrote: >> Just through https://mail.google.com, as per usual. > > Would your account happen to be @googlemail.com rather than > @gmail.com? Or have a different number of dots in its &quo

Re: DIS: This message may not have been sent by

2011-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 June 2011 13:17, Elliott Hird wrote: > On 29 June 2011 11:49, Charles Walker wrote: >> It was @googlemail.com but I changed it to @gmail.com a while back. I >> can still sign in as @googlemail.com though, and messages sent to >> either address work. > > It

DIS: Re: BUS: Chamber CFJ

2011-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 June 2011 16:51, Sean Hunt wrote: > On 11-06-29 02:32 AM, Charles Walker wrote: >> >> I CFJ on "Chamber is a switch." >> >> Arguments: FALSE as no officer tracks it. The same goes for adoption >> index, which means that no recent proposals have ac

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2011-06-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 June 2011 17:54, omd wrote: > Proposal: Victory case changes (AI=1.7) Please could you word this not to clash with my related proposal? You just need to change the first line to "If X has been adopted, replace the second paragraph, otherwise the first, with". -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Flawless Victory

2011-06-30 Thread Charles Walker
e win failed. > > Wasn't e technically violating an ASAP requirement by waiting? (Too > tired to look up the rule.) > The requirement was waived if there was a CFJ on the win. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Flawless Victory

2011-06-30 Thread Charles Walker
ins being self-ratified in the old system. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: This message may not have been sent by

2011-07-01 Thread Charles Walker
ist is resending messages "from" gmail users. > > I bug reported it. > I got sent to this page. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=175365 -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: You're a man^Wnomic now!

2011-07-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 2 July 2011 19:43, Flameshadowxeroshin wrote: > If I am inactive, I become active. You're not a player, nor is it Agora's Birthday any more. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: You're a man^Wnomic now!

2011-07-05 Thread Charles Walker
you to register again. -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2011-07-05 Thread Charles Walker
On 5 July 2011 20:19, Flameshadowxeroshin wrote: > Now that I have noticed I was deregistered, I register. > Welcome back! -- Charles Walker

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7081 - 7083

2011-07-10 Thread Charles Walker
On 8 July 2011 06:50, omd wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> Amend Rule 1607 (Distribution) by replacing the paragraph beginning >> "The Promotor CAN distribute a proposal which..." with: >> >>      Priority is an undistri

Re: DIS: which one of the available options

2011-07-19 Thread Charles Walker
Remind yourself how we ended up with double votes in the first place: a proposal to change the default voting limit to 2. --- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Surely this has been tried before, but I can't see a reason for it not to work.

2011-07-22 Thread Charles Walker
action, or to set or modify that value, except as allowed by an Instrument with Power greater than or equal to the change's Power Threshold. This Threshold defaults to the securing Rule's Power, but CAN be lowered as allowed by that Rule (including by the Rule

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 3028-29 judged REMAND with prejudice by scshunt (prejudice ambiguous), Yally, Pavitra

2011-07-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 July 2011 19:11, Ed Murphy wrote: > The relevant announcements, in order: > >  1) Pavitra attempted (with the support of the other panelists) to >     directly cause the panel to judge AFFIRM with prejudice We still have Rule 2341, right? -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Various

2011-07-25 Thread Charles Walker
so I suppose it's not as simple a case as I thought. -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: rebirth

2011-07-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 July 2011 14:41, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > This is a public message, and I believe that I'm sending it to all > current players of Agora even if I'm not sending it via a public > forum. > > I probably intend to become a player at this time, unless I'm already > a player, in which case I merely

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: further muddying the waters

2011-07-29 Thread Charles Walker
You can get the SLR and the FLR at agora.qoid.us --- Charles Walker On 29 Jul 2011 18:52, "Benjamin Schultz" wrote: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I deregister. >> >> I register. >> >> --Wooble >> > > Wa

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2011-07-31 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 July 2011 23:43, woggle wrote: > Proposal: Consent Timing (AI=3) > {{ > In Rule 1728 (Dependent Actions) replace "depends on objections or > notice" with "depends on objections, notice, or consent". > }} Agoran Consent depends on objections. -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent

2011-07-31 Thread Charles Walker
nd to then support it. > > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to cause the President to withdraw all > previous support or objection to this intent, and to then object to > it. The entities eligible to support or object to a dependent action are, by default, all first-class players, -- Charles Walker

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 3028-29 judged REMAND with prejudice by scshunt (prejudice ambiguous), Yally, Pavitra

2011-07-31 Thread Charles Walker
er methods (such as R2157 paragraph 2). >> > > I destroy 5 Points in Walker's possession per Rule 2335. The prior judge was Tanner L. Swett. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHALL NOT violate a promise

2011-07-31 Thread Charles Walker
eger. > > Fourteen is too much. > Why? The Class of a Crime is an arbitrary, meaningless number with no rules or precedent defined link to Point fines, the number of days of time out etc. -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: I dun like this

2011-07-31 Thread Charles Walker
s you have X points" where X is ludicrously low. So I'll > propose getting rid of the win entirely and people can argue about that how > they will. FOR, but just out of interest, why not propose raising the number of Points required for a win? -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Protect Assets

2011-08-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 31 July 2011 23:54, Charles Reiss wrote: > Set the power of rule 2166 (Assets) to 3. > > [Rationale: promises are assets at Power 3, so the defining rule needs > to be, too.] Why? -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHALL NOT violate a promise

2011-08-01 Thread Charles Walker
the action, to prevent people being forced to spam > Taunts. You used to be able to create Rests in your own possession. Incidentally, there was no limit on this. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yet More

2011-08-06 Thread Charles Walker
e expires at the same time each week and month. -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2011-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 6 August 2011 16:49, Charles Reiss wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 06:59, Charles Walker > wrote: >> Registrar's Census >> >> Date of last report: Tue 26 Jul 2011 >> Date of this report: Fri 05 Aug 2011 > [snip] >> SECOND-CLASS

DIS: Re: BUS: Yay! My laptop is back!

2011-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 6 August 2011 22:11, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > If there is any pending intention to make me inactive, I object to it. I > just got my laptop back from the repair shop, so I'm back in the game! =) Unfortunately you are already inactive. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yay! My laptop is back!

2011-08-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 August 2011 18:16, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> >> Unfortunately you are already inactive. >> >> -- >> Charles Walker > > When did that happen? The last Census, dated August 5th, lists me

Re: DIS: any winning or contests?

2011-08-09 Thread Charles Walker
gement of GLORY on CFJ 3048, but I was never awarded Champion. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Failed entry into BlogNomic

2011-08-11 Thread Charles Walker
ns I, on behalf of > Agora, should take. I believe that I proposed allowing players to act on Agora's behalf with Agoran Consent, but I'm not sure what happened to that. This would be useful for you to get Agora to join BlogNomic, but it would hardly be easy to play BlogNomic waiting for Agoran Consent for every single action. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Failed entry into BlogNomic

2011-08-11 Thread Charles Walker
; know what the people back home would want him to say. > > /Tiger > In that case we would need a rule allowing the Ambassador to act on Agora's behalf in other nomics. At the moment there simply isn't a mechanism which allows it to act at all. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Failed entry into BlogNomic

2011-08-11 Thread Charles Walker
On 11 August 2011 16:10, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > On 11 August 2011 17:03, Charles Walker wrote: >> On 11 August 2011 15:42, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >>> I don't see why it can't be the mission of the Ambassador to act in >>> Agora's best interest. Tha

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Impossible job is impossible

2011-08-11 Thread Charles Walker
gt; would actually qualify as attempting to do this duty, since the >>>> unsuccessful attempt e did make happened more than 4 days after e was >>>> installed. >>> >>> I intend, with Agoran Consent, to flip the Speed to Normal. >>> >> I support. >> > TTttPF > NttPF -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (With apologies to the Horton) Vote-swap scheme.

2011-08-11 Thread Charles Walker
hird >> Flameshadowxeroshin >> G. >> Gondolier >> Math321 >> Murphy >> omd >> Pavitra >> Roujo >> scshunt >> Tanner L. Swett >> Tiger >> Turiski >> Walker >> woggle >> Yally >> >> ) > > H. Registrar, can you confirm this? > Yes, this list is correct. -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 3074, 3080-81, 3083 assigned to woggle

2011-08-13 Thread Charles Walker
On 13 August 2011 08:32, woggle wrote: > I judge CFJ 3081 GUILTY / FINE - 1 point. (If you're filing the CFJ in > August, it can't be that bad.) The CFJ was only filed in August because there is a limit on the number of CFJs a player can initiate each week. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Herald Deputisation and Election

2011-08-13 Thread Charles Walker
this is apparently > the first win since the ones on January 5, other than possibly the > one via promise-cashing on July 26 (did that fail? if so, why?) > I don't see any reason why the promise-cashing one would have failed, which means that the one quoted above did. -- Charles Walker

Re: DIS: recognizing the carnage

2011-10-22 Thread Charles Walker
t winning earns you, say, 5 Speaker Cards, which you can then use to vote in future elections for the Speaker. Or, if a caste-like system gets reintroduced, then maybe the election would just having the same voting limits as an ordinary decision. -- Charles Walker

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2012-09-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 Aug 2012, at 13:15, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 6:13 PM, FKA441344 <441...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Walker 30 Jan 12 * > > Also, for each of players named above, I intend, without objection, to > deregister that player. > -- > Wooble I object to my deregistrati

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7334 - 7336

2013-03-27 Thread Charles Walker
On 27 March 2013 08:03, Ed Murphy wrote: > > Voting results for Proposals 7334 - 7336: > > ID: 7335 > AI: 1.0 > Chamber: Ordinary > Author: Machiavelli > Title: Golem stripping > > In the rule "Ribbons", replace the sentence "Ownership of Ribbons is > restricted to players." with "Ownership of Ri

DIS: Re: BUS: Controlling Interests

2013-03-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 March 2013 17:55, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > I submit the following proposal, Controlling Interest, AI-3: This reminds me of a similar proposal floating around a few years ago. (I can't remember whose idea it was, sorry.) The idea was that players could buy shares in other players and recei

DIS: Economy Proto

2013-04-27 Thread Charles Walker
[tl;dr: simple liquid currency with office salaries, case fees and proposal fees. A small reward just for voting. Bidding to distribute the top N proposals (other than those with low fees). Offices propose their Salary during elections. The return of Caste, but no GP. ] The rationale behind some o

Re: DIS: Economy Proto

2013-04-27 Thread Charles Walker
> On 27 Apr 2013, at 18:23, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Sat, 27 Apr 2013, Charles Walker wrote: >> I welcome suggestions for a better name for the currency. > > I called mine Yaks, for Yet Another Kurrency System. Officer was the > Yak Herder. I kinda like it, but not su

DIS: Economy Proto

2013-04-27 Thread Charles Walker
On 27 Apr 2013, at 19:45, Tanner Swett > wrote: On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Charles Walker > wrote: Agoran Dollars (or Dollars, and with currency symbol '#') Well, with that symbol, clearly they should be called Pounds. —Machiavælli I guess so, but it's going

DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-04-28 Thread Charles Walker
Changes: - G. and Murphy's suggestions - Now "Ruble" is replaced with "Yak" in Plutocratic Chamber A handy list of rewards and costs: Reward Amount (per month where applicable) -- Activity Wage 100 Judging50 Appeal 20 Sala

DIS: Contracts Proto

2013-04-28 Thread Charles Walker
{ Contracts, AI 2 Enact a Power 2 Rule with the following text: A contract is a binding agreement between two or more persons (the parties). In order to be a valid contract, the parties must enter into the agreement voluntarily and the agreement must not obligate any of it

Re: DIS: Contracts Proto

2013-04-28 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 Apr 2013, at 21:54, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Apr 28, 2013 2:45 PM, "Charles Walker" wrote: > > > > { Contracts, AI 2 > > AGAINST. Just pulling bits of Agoran history into the present seems poor. > > -scshunt > You may be right, but I think that you

Re: DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-04-29 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 April 2013 02:11, omd wrote: > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> Append to Rule 2374 (Democratization) the following: >> >> Any player CAN, by announcement, set the Chamber of an entity to >> Democratic for a cost of 10

DIS: Re: BUS: proto: infractions

2013-04-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 April 2013 17:53, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Proto: basic Infractions mechanism (Discuss!) Seems good to me. I'd like to know which crimes will become Infractions, though. -- Walker

Re: DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-04-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 29 April 2013 17:01, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, omd wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Charles Walker >> wrote: >> >>> Any player CAN, by announcement, set the Chamber of an entity to >> >>> Democratic for a cos

Re: DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-04-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 April 2013 15:10, Charles Walker wrote: > On 29 April 2013 17:01, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, omd wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Charles Walker >>> wrote: >>> >>> Any player CAN, by announcement, set the Cha

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Banks

2013-04-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 Apr 2013, at 19:26, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, omd wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Kerim Aydin >> wrote: >> Overall, I like the idea and wouldn't mind seeing this applied to Yaks. > > Interestingly, I was thinking VCs as the first candidate; fixed VC supply >

Re: DIS: On Agora's Vigintennial

2013-05-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 May 2013 05:20, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:08 AM, omd wrote: >> Did everyone not realize this was coming up, or just me? :) >> >> I invite any sort of publicity that might encourage Agora's current >> just-getting-out-of-a-slump. >> > > We should work on a new web presence,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Banks

2013-05-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 May 2013, at 02:29, Tanner Swett wrote: > The backing document for a currency may define a particular > entity as the bank for that currency. A currency with a bank is > known as a fiat currency. Rules to the contrary > notwithstanding, a currency's bank CAN own that cu

Re: DIS: On Agora's Vigintennial

2013-05-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 May 2013 06:37, Sean Hunt wrote: > Idea: try to contact as many old-timers as possible (ideally through > personal links, rather than just spamming the Observer list) and > create some sort of monument with a bit of contribution from everyone. +1 Are there any current players with such link

Re: DIS: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-05-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 April 2013 16:40, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Charles Walker wrote: > > How about this? > > > > Where the Rules refer to an amount 'N' of a given asset, N is > > given by a corresponding Variable Asset Switch (VAS), a natural

DIS: Re: Proto: Yaks 2.0

2013-05-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 2 May 2013 18:16, omd wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> A singleton switch is a switch for which Agora Nomic is the only >> entity possessing an instance of that switch. > > You could just say Agora Nomic switch. Sure, I

DIS: Yaks Final Draft

2013-05-04 Thread Charles Walker
I'll submit the proposal before the deadline on Sunday. Any final comments? There's a list of salaries, fees and rewards at the end. A quick spreadsheet showing how Yak ownership changes long term (assuming no expenditure and the only income is from the activity wage and office salaries) is here:

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3300a assigned to Machiavelli, ais523, omd

2013-05-05 Thread Charles Walker
On 5 May 2013 20:39, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3300a > > Appeal 3300a > I don't see a Public copy of this message. -- Walker

Re: DIS: On Agora's Vigintennial

2013-05-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 May 2013 19:43, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > The Registrar's history section has contact information for nearly every > player in Agora's history (not that it's necessarily all current). For those > we don't have current history on, a little googling could probably turn this > sort of thing up, es

Re: DIS: On Agora's Vigintennial

2013-05-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 7 May 2013, at 16:41, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, 7 May 2013, Charles Walker wrote: >> Agora's Twentieth Birthday shall be known as the Vigintennial. > > This is precisely what Contests are for. > > ...why'd we get rid of them again? Like I've sa

DIS: Re: BAK: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset

2013-05-07 Thread Charles Walker
On 5 May 2013, at 15:44, woggle wrote: > Rule 2141/6 (Power=3) > Role and Attributes of Rules [...] > Every rule has power between one and four inclusive. It is > not possible for a rule to have a power outside this range. [...] > > Rule 2388/2 (Power=0.5) > The Dictionary ? -- Walke

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7418-7425

2013-05-08 Thread Charles Walker
On 8 May 2013, at 05:35, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:15 PM, omd wrote: >> 7425 2 Walker, etc. Yaks > 20xAGAINST because of "singular" and I'm feeling in a mood to be against > typos right now. this might change over the week. What's wrong with the singular definition? Also,

Re: DIS: On Agora's Vigintennial

2013-05-09 Thread Charles Walker
On 9 May 2013 01:13, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Things I just pulled off the top of my head. Please offer additions: > > 1. An accelerated game of Nomic, starting from Agora's initial ruleset > (possibly slightly modified if necessary), but made so that timelimits are > extremely short. The game woul

DIS: Comptroller Proto

2013-05-10 Thread Charles Walker
{ Enact a Rule with the following text: Agora's Twentieth Birthday shall be known as the Vigintennial. The Comptroller of the Lord Chamberlain's Office is an office; its holder is responsible for organising the celebration of the Vigintennial. A player CAN, with two

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 3315-17 assigned to scshunt

2013-05-12 Thread Charles Walker
On 12 May 2013, at 00:49, Sean Hunt wrote: NttPF

DIS: Re: BUS: rerereregistration

2013-05-13 Thread Charles Walker
On 14 May 2013, at 02:28, James Beirne wrote: > I, reasonably clearly and reasonably unambiguously, announce my intent to > rerereregister as a player of Agora. Welcome! -- Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3319 assigned to Wes

2013-05-15 Thread Charles Walker
On 14 May 2013, at 23:29, Kerim Aydin wrote: > My argument was on the point of don't appeal this because you think > some destroying an arbitrary amount of an easily-destroyed currency > is somehow a 'more deserved' punishment, because right now we have > really no reasonable way to place a relat

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Ambassador-at-Large] News from Foreign Nations

2013-05-15 Thread Charles Walker
On 15 May 2013 15:14, "Jonathan Rouillard" wrote: > In rule 2369, "Foreign Relations", replace "Hostile, and Abandoned" > with "Hostile, Abandoned and Over". Sneakily removing the Oxford comma -- Walker

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Personnel File & Time Sheet

2013-05-19 Thread Charles Walker
On 19 May 2013, at 19:52, Sean Hunt wrote: > OFFICE HOLDER SINCE ASSUMPTION NOMINATION > - --- -- -- -- > A-A-L [1] Roujo2013-04-12 Postulated 2013-04-12 > Assessor Murphy 2011-03-05 Postulated 2012-0

DIS: Re: BUS: Subjective Criminology

2013-05-19 Thread Charles Walker
On 20 May 2013, at 01:44, Sean Hunt wrote: > Proposal: No Recordkeeping Burden (AI=1) > {{{ > Submitting a promise with an intent other than that the Promise be > given to another player or to > the Tree as a form of binding obligation on the submitter is the Crime > of Empty Promis

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The Suber Classic

2013-05-22 Thread Charles Walker
On 20 May 2013 19:06, Kerim Aydin wrote: > [Proto comes to mind with anniversary coming up, and also > the Lime ribbon working imperfectly/uninterestinly] FOR, but did you think about whether the currency should be fixed? I'm not sure if they're something you should be able to trade. > [Takes vo

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-23 Thread Charles Walker
On 23 May 2013 21:25, Tanner Swett wrote: > On May 23, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: >>> Hm. I like the land metaphor; let me retheme the proposal around it (and >>> make some other cosmetic tweaks while I'm at it) >> >> I think allian

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 23 May 2013 22:09, Charles Walker wrote: > On 23 May 2013 21:25, Tanner Swett wrote: >> On May 23, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: >>>> Hm. I like the land metaphor; let me retheme the proposal around

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-25 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 May 2013 22:02, omd wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> A player CAN flip eir party membership by >> announcement, provided that e satisfies any conditions for doing >> so in the constitutions of the prior pa

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Igora

2013-05-25 Thread Charles Walker
On 25 May 2013 13:02, Charles Walker wrote: > On 24 May 2013 22:02, omd wrote: >> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Charles Walker >> wrote: >>> For an Agoran decision with an adoption index the party of the >>> proposal's author and t

Re: DIS: Re: Star Chamber

2013-05-27 Thread Charles Walker
On 27 May 2013, at 04:45, omd wrote: > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Fool wrote: >> Now, am I mistaken that the initiator is also a participant? If so it seems >> you've effectively made em a biased manager. Nothing prevents em and eir >> allies from watching the turn while it's in progress,

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7444-7452

2013-05-27 Thread Charles Walker
On 27 May 2013 02:19, omd wrote: >> 7449 3 Walker Rule Decisions Re Decisions are for Decision >> ..Rules > AGAINST*1000, broken as previously noted Crap, forgot to withdraw that. I submit the following: { deference (AI 3.2) Amend Rule 1030 (Precedence between Rules)

DIS: Re: BUS: Dismissal & Accountabilty

2013-05-27 Thread Charles Walker
On 27 May 2013 14:09, scshunt wrote: > continues even if the case is suspended or rendered open again. If the case is assigned > a different judgment, then for each office not dismissed by the new judgment, the ninny > becomes the holder of that office, any election (includi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7418-25

2013-05-28 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 May 2013, at 01:54, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> I initiate an election for Yak Herdor, nominating myself. > > hi Ah, you're not listed because you weren't in the most recent Registrar report. Apolo

DIS: Re: BUS: fees

2013-05-28 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 May 2013, at 03:31, Sean Hunt wrote: > I intend, without 3 objections, to flip the Salary of the IADoP to 350, as > I'm now required to keep track of all duties required of offices, including > whether the CotC and Assessor are correctly performing all their duties in a > timely manner.

DIS: Re: BUS: Election

2013-05-28 Thread Charles Walker
On 28 May 2013, at 11:02, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Charles Walker > wrote: >> On 28 May 2013, at 01:43, omd wrote: >> > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:25 PM, comex wrote: >> >> I initiate an election for Governmental Waste and nom

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJs 3324-25 assigned to Walker

2013-05-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 27 May 2013 23:31, Ed Murphy wrote: > == CFJ 3324 == I plan to accept scshunt's arguments here, unless there are any counterarguments? -- Walker

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yak niggles

2013-05-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 May 2013 19:38, Sean Hunt wrote: > I'm not a fan of "non-zero" distributability here, incidentally. I think > that proposals should be distributable by default. If you disagree, I'll > submit a proposal to that effect. You mean that you would distribute the N most distributable proposals, e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yak niggles

2013-05-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 May 2013 19:58, Sean Hunt wrote: > Yeah. In my experience, distribution fees are hurtful to new players and a > great way to slow the game down even further in a lull. MI seems like a nice > way to deal with that, and I don't think we should throw a distributability > fee in. Ok. Is the fol

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yak niggles

2013-05-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 May 2013, at 23:03, Sean Hunt wrote: > On May 30, 2013 5:21 PM, "omd" wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Charles Walker > > wrote: > > > In a given Agoran week, the Promotor SHALL, as part of eir > > > weekly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yak niggles

2013-05-30 Thread Charles Walker
On 30 May 2013, at 23:21, Sean Hunt wrote: > Perhaps we should review officer prerogatives as a separate exercise. It > might be cool to bring back officers with significant influence as the Grand > Poobah had. > Agreed. > Also, I realize now that the Promotor actually gets a fair bit of leeway

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Entreco!

2013-05-31 Thread Charles Walker
On 31 May 2013 17:47, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I CFJ on: Entreco is a Nomic. I bar Machiavelli. Evidence: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/entreco-nomic/2IhIoYkA_jQ -- Walker

DIS: Parties Proto 2.0

2013-06-01 Thread Charles Walker
Changes: - omd's comments - party leaders don't need a majority to be elected as Speaker - voting limit in a GE is now just VVLOP, or 2*VVLOP for Ministers - Parties replace 'Alliances' if Igora is adopted - added Cabinet Secretary, who can rubberstamp (only first AGAINST vote from each player

Re: DIS: Parties Proto 2.0

2013-06-01 Thread Charles Walker
On 1 June 2013 16:46, Tanner Swett wrote: > Merging with Igora's alliances may or may not be a good idea, > depending on how fluid we want parties to be. In Igora, if you want to > win, you have to capture everyone else's pieces, which would seem to > be impossible if you're allies with anyone wh

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Salary awards (and CFJ)

2013-06-02 Thread Charles Walker
On 2 Jun 2013, at 18:22, Sean Hunt wrote: > [As written, if you break a time limit, you give up on all salary for an > office ever.] Seems fair. Sorry all. I think I meant to write "during the time e held it in that month", to clarify that officers didn't lose their salaries for not completing

DIS: Question for H. Promotor

2013-06-02 Thread Charles Walker
Do you intend to distribute all proposals as usual, or will you distribute only those with positive distributability as if P2425 hadn't failed to amend R1607? -- Walker

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