(another from Murphy)
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Subject: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: it's time to care again
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 12:09:41 -0800
From: Edward Murphy
To: Kerim Aydin
G. wrote:
But if you really want it, please take it out of the wins at this point.
How about a new P
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Well, I'd like to make it clear that some scams might not be. For example,
I'd love it if it said "Dictator scams" SHOULD only be used to earn this
Relic, the scammers should expect every other profit from a dictator scam to
be taken back. I like that, b
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:
I think it's helpful to have such rules in the ruleset, because history
has shown that when we've been missing them, players with less-than-
dictatorship scams have caused widespread damage to unrelated parts of
the gamestate trying to finagle
This and talking about BN on that other thread has reminded me that BN has
recently banned all non-Dynastic Rule scams (no Core Rule scams, etc) and
it makes me really sad lol.
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 00:26, Gaelan Steele wrote:
> I’m not convinced that every conceivable scam needs an outlet—gai
Well, I'd like to make it clear that some scams might not be. For example,
I'd love it if it said "Dictator scams" SHOULD only be used to earn this
Relic, the scammers should expect every other profit from a dictator scam to
be taken back. I like that, because in particular if a Dictator uses
I’m not convinced that every conceivable scam needs an outlet—gaining an unfair
advantage in the game by an abuse of the rules is part of what Nomic is about
IMO. While scam outlets are a good tool when necessary, I believe that
something like this would create a perception that any non-outlet s
Greed relic— taking all of the coins of an active player against eir will (e.g.
through a contract scam)
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
>
> The same applies to Ribbons. Raising a Banner (which just gives you a win)
> is harder than just winning (because it has as a prerequisi
On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 00:02 +0100, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> - Wrath Relic: When a person has an action cancelled via Rule 1698,
> that person earns a Wrath Relic.
>
> Rule 1698 is the anti-ossification rule by the way.
I wouldn't recommend this. Encouraging players to attempt to ossify
Agora seems li
The same applies to Ribbons. Raising a Banner (which just gives you a win)
is harder than just winning (because it has as a prerequisite to win in the
first place lol, to get the win-dependent ribbons).
Relics would be in the same spirit as Ribbons.
Anyways, proto:
[Ribbon-like function stuff he
Dependent actions are critical enough that introducing a dependency on currency
seems like a bad idea—if anything, I would want this to be a CAN but SHALL NOT
sort of thing.
Gaelan
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 12:55 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 12:37 -0800, Kerim Aydi
Seems a little too difficult for me. Right now, generally the going rate is “1
scam = 1 win”—asking that someone finds multiple scams, all of which are fairly
rare, just to get one win seems like it’s asking quite a lot.
Gaelan
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> I hearti
I heartily endorse this expansion. It could soak up some other common types
of scams (e.g. one for a "scam of power 3" provides an outlet for escalation
scams).
On 2/17/2019 1:10 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 22:05 +0100, Cuddle Beam wrote:
Probably we could have
On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 22:05 +0100, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> Probably we could have something like this:
>
> "Relics are a Fixed Asset, limited to Persons, tracked by the Tailor. Once
> a player has a Relic of all kinds, they can destroy all of their Relics and
> declare victory. The following are the
Probably we could have something like this:
"Relics are a Fixed Asset, limited to Persons, tracked by the Tailor. Once
a player has a Relic of all kinds, they can destroy all of their Relics and
declare victory. The following are the kinds of Relics:
- Apathy Relic: yadda yadda apathy mechanic her
I guess changing my boilerplate to "I intend to declare victory for
myself" is a good approach, too.
On 2/17/2019 12:52 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote:
I understand your concerns fellow players but I believe that a good
sensible solution would be to something like something something text here.
Anyways
We survived for a long time without that.
But if you really want it, please take it out of the wins at this point.
How about a new Patent Title ("A player CAN award emself the Patent Title
Sneaky without objection.") It should also be for a person only - it's too
damn cheap if you can basicall
On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 12:37 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On 2/17/2019 12:29 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:
> > On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 11:52 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > > I think this one's been driven into the ground as hard as it possibly
> > > can be. Time for Agora move on.
> >
> > Win by
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 3:37 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> Gaelan had to specifically ask me to remove my
> standard intent boilerplate, otherwise eir scam would have been trivially
> stopped
But Gaelan’s scam did identify a dangerous flaw in the intent rules. Would you
have noticed it and object
On 2/17/2019 12:29 PM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote:
On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 11:52 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
I think this one's been driven into the ground as hard as it possibly
can be. Time for Agora move on.
Win by Apathy, in addition to being something you can aim for (which I
agree has
On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 11:52 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I think this one's been driven into the ground as hard as it possibly
> can be. Time for Agora move on.
Win by Apathy, in addition to being something you can aim for (which I
agree has been run into the ground), is also there to give depende
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