Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-04 Thread Iammars
Heck, I've only attempted one proposal in my 4 months here, and I immediately retracted it after I realized how stupid it sounded. I infinitely prefer judgements and contracts. (I haven't changed the rules at all, but I'm near the top in points!) On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:42 AM, ihope <[EMAIL PROT

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-04 Thread ihope
On 04/04/2008, Ankica Zilic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know that it is about creating rools but at this time the game that you > created would need to be studied,but I have to say that you are > creative..very Indeed. I studied the Agora Nomic rules for a while before actually doing anything.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-04 Thread Ankica Zilic
I know that it is about creating rools but at this time the game that you created would need to be studied,but I have to say that you are creative..very On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ankica Zilic wrote: > >I think I will never get what this game is about > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-04 Thread Zefram
Ankica Zilic wrote: >I think I will never get what this game is about Oh dear, I thought the web page made it fairly clear. > cause it lasts so long and >you have created so many rools Yes, this is what this game is about. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-04 Thread Ankica Zilic
I think I will never get what this game is about cause it lasts so long and you have created so many rools so I should quit... On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PRO

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > To put it in a language and describe it as a custom all Agorans should >> > understand, allowing future specification would be a TEOISIWDTIWDTWPAIAW. >> >> "terrible example of 'I say

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To put it in a language and describe it as a custom all Agorans should > > understand, allowing future specification would be a TEOISIWDTIWDTWPAIAW. > > "terrible example of 'I say I will do, therefore I will do' that will

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: > I'd prefer to legislate that messages take effect at the time they > are processed by the list software. That'd make it the same Received: > header that is significant in each message, and any skew affects everyone > equally. If you propose this, then please annotate it to explai

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Zefram wrote: >> Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> Rule 478: "Any action performed by sending a message is performed at >>> the time date-stamped on that message." >> I'd point at the preceding sentence: >> >> Where the rules define an action that CAN be performed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: > A public message's claim to have been published as of the > time in its Date: header is self-ratifying, Do you expect there to be a lot of such claims? I'd prefer to legislate that messages take effect at the time they are processed by the list software. That'd make

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So my scam only fails if someone accuses me of scamming *before* I > actually do it? No, it follows the normal self-ratification process, unless such a challenge has been made against the publisher (presumably for some

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Zefram wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> Rule 478: "Any action performed by sending a message is performed at >> the time date-stamped on that message." > > I'd point at the preceding sentence: > > Where the rules define an action that CAN be performed "by > announcem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ed Murphy
Zefram wrote: > When I was registrar, many years ago, I actually used the appropriate > Received: header routinely. As far as I know this is unique among > officeholders. Likely because it requires remembering which Received: header is the appropriate one. Proto-Proposal: When Am I? (AI = 3, p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Zefram
Geoffrey Spear wrote: >Rule 478: "Any action performed by sending a message is performed at >the time date-stamped on that message." I'd point at the preceding sentence: Where the rules define an action that CAN be performed "by announcement", a player performs that action by announci

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Ian Kelly
> When I was registrar, many years ago, I actually used the appropriate > Received: header routinely. As far as I know this is unique among > officeholders. I used to do this as well as Promotor and Registrar, until the appropriate Received: header changed. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking at B Nomic Rule 4E7, I also see nothing stopping one from > basing either the scheduled time or the number of repetitions on a > specific quantity that is impractical to compute (e.g. "the private > key corresponding

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread comex
On 4/3/08, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does it allow conditionals as well? Yes. Yes it does.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is it exactly that makes post-dated actions invalid? (just curious) Rule 478: "Any action performed by sending a message is performed at the time date-stamped on that message." Forging your date stamp arguably would a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The rule in question says "a specified time in the future". Another > part of that rule explicitly equates "I perform X > times" as equivalent to that many instances of "I perform X", so "I > perform X at each of " would

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The rule in question says "a specified time in the future". Another > part of that rule explicitly equates "I perform X > times" as equivalent to that many instances of "I perform X", so "I > perform X at each of " would

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-02 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Getting your nomics crossed again? (B Nomic allows actions to be >> performed in the future like this; ties are broken in favor of the >> player who published first.) > > Hmm. Suppose I announce in B Nomic

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Getting your nomics crossed again? (B Nomic allows actions to be > performed in the future like this; ties are broken in favor of the > player who published first.) Hmm. Suppose I announce in B Nomic that I perform an act

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-02 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Roger Hicks wrote: >> >Uh...yeah. I'm gonna recuse myself from this one too. >> >> Go on then. >> >> -zefram >> > Very well then, at exactly 03:59 UTC on April 5, 2008 I recuse myself > from this case. Getting

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very well then, at exactly 03:59 UTC on April 5, 2008 I recuse myself > from this case. Fails. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-02 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote: > Uh...yeah. I'm gonna recuse myself from this one too. Too busy at the > moment to give it a fair look. I believe this falls afoul of the same problem as "I'll consent".

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1914 pikhq recused, BobTHJ assigned

2008-04-02 Thread Zefram
Roger Hicks wrote: >Uh...yeah. I'm gonna recuse myself from this one too. Go on then. -zefram