Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Pavitra
On 09/28/2012 04:29 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:23 PM, omd wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> Is "Abraham Lincoln" the name of a person? Yes it is. >> >> I'd say it's arguable - well, maybe a clearer example, since dead >> persons can be con

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Craig Daniel
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:23 PM, omd wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Is "Abraham Lincoln" the name of a person? Yes it is. > > I'd say it's arguable - well, maybe a clearer example, since dead > persons can be considered persons (but aren't in Agora), is whether >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread omd
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Is "Abraham Lincoln" the name of a person? Yes it is. I'd say it's arguable - well, maybe a clearer example, since dead persons can be considered persons (but aren't in Agora), is whether "Bill Clinton" is the name of a world leader: the answ

DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Tanner Swett
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'Anyone other than Machiavelli CAN, > with 2 support, cause this rule to amend itself by replacing all > instances of the name "Machiavelli" with any other person's name.' Eh, lemme suggest changing this. 'Anyon

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Ah, yes. I create a slave golem named "scshunt CAN deregister. G. can > > cause > > this rule to amend itself by announcement. No one " > > Now I am conflicted. On the one hand, I don't want to j

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, omd wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > The rule says the text needs to be the "name of a person". Once a > > name has been associated with a person, that text is still the name > > of a particular person even if that person ceases to exist. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread omd
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The rule says the text needs to be the "name of a person". Once a > name has been associated with a person, that text is still the name > of a particular person even if that person ceases to exist. It's not the name of a person if the entity

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, omd wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Ah, yes. I create a slave golem named "scshunt CAN deregister. G. can > > cause > > this rule to amend itself by announcement. No one " > > Since slave golems are supposed to be repealed in the same s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Ah, yes. I create a slave golem named "scshunt CAN deregister. G. can cause > this rule to amend itself by announcement. No one " Now I am conflicted. On the one hand, I don't want to just give someone else a dictatorship. On the other hand

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread omd
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Ah, yes. I create a slave golem named "scshunt CAN deregister. G. can cause > this rule to amend itself by announcement. No one " Since slave golems are supposed to be repealed in the same set of actions as the creation of the Machiavelli r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:11 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, ais523 wrote: > > > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 11:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > > > > > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:11 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, ais523 wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 11:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > > > > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'Anyone other than Machiavelli CAN, > > > > with 2 sup

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 11:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > > > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'Anyone other than Machiavelli CAN, > > > with 2 support, cause this rule to amend itself by replacing all > > > instan

DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 11:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'Anyone other than Machiavelli CAN, > > with 2 support, cause this rule to amend itself by replacing all > > instances of the name "Machiavelli" with any other pers

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > >> I thought quite closely about the Prerogative of Prejudice. I wanted > >> something cool and powerful, but not entirely absurd. My rationale is > >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: >> I thought quite closely about the Prerogative of Prejudice. I wanted >> something cool and powerful, but not entirely absurd. My rationale is >> that Prejudice is not truly a just punishment, and sho

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > I thought quite closely about the Prerogative of Prejudice. I wanted > something cool and powerful, but not entirely absurd. My rationale is > that Prejudice is not truly a just punishment, and should not be > considered a judicial resolution to controversy

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Sean Hunt > wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Benjamin Schultz > > wrote: > >> If you wanted a dictatorship in the true spirit of Agora, try scamming a > >> non-player into the dictator position. > >> -- >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Craig Daniel
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Benjamin Schultz > wrote: >> If you wanted a dictatorship in the true spirit of Agora, try scamming a >> non-player into the dictator position. >> -- >> OscarMeyr > > Bucky? I believe the Secretary of State wo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, omd wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > Also: fun's fun, but I will also deregister if scshunt persists in these >> > changes. Consider that an objection, as well. >> >> Oh, come on.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, omd wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Also: fun's fun, but I will also deregister if scshunt persists in these > > changes. Consider that an objection, as well. > > Oh, come on. Although I feel obliged to counter-scam (not that it's > parti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > If you wanted a dictatorship in the true spirit of Agora, try scamming a > non-player into the dictator position. > -- > OscarMeyr Bucky?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Benjamin Schultz
If you wanted a dictatorship in the true spirit of Agora, try scamming a non-player into the dictator position. -- OscarMeyr

DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-27 Thread omd
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Also: fun's fun, but I will also deregister if scshunt persists in these > changes. Consider that an objection, as well. Oh, come on. Although I feel obliged to counter-scam (not that it's particularly likely to work, since we already elect

DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-27 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > This is a dictatorship acting well outside of the limited, > reward-focused bounds a scam should go. > > I deregister. This is a scam that frightens off ehird. I register. (NttPF status intentional.)

DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-27 Thread Sean Hunt
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > This is a dictatorship acting well outside of the limited, > reward-focused bounds a scam should go. > > I deregister. > What, no Cantus Cygneus? -scshunt

DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, omd wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Elliott Hird > wrote: > > This is a dictatorship acting well outside of the limited, > > reward-focused bounds a scam should go. > > > > I deregister. > > I change my name to Antony. But surely, scshunt is an honorable man.