Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, comex wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2. Terminating the pledge is no different than terminating a >>partnership. Are you arguing that partnerships can't be >>terminated due to their losing R101 rights? > > The argu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-21 Thread comex
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Terminating the pledge is no different than terminating a >partnership. Are you arguing that partnerships can't be >terminated due to their losing R101 rights? The argument's been brought up before...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-21 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Alex Smith wrote: > This pledge is obviously self-contradictory. If Goethe could terminate > HAL by announcement, e could remove eir right to call CFJs. By rule 101, > this is obviously impossible. > > Also, HAL is not party to that pledge, so you can't Mousetrap em like > tha

DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-21 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 14:25 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I agree to the following pledge, called HAL: > > 1. By pledge of Goethe, HAL is a biological organism that can communicate > in English. Goethe may act on behalf of HAL by announcement. Goethe > may terminate HAL by announcement.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-18 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > This has nothing to do with what a contract says. Obligations are > managed by the Rules and need not correspond to what we would call an > ordinary-language obligation, any more than a Land must be a part of > planet Earth or a Crop edible. Partnerships do devolve "legal > obliga

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-18 Thread comex
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have said in your judgment that if the *entity itself* defines itself > as P, despite external evidence to the contrary, then it is in fact in > class A, and the only way it is not in A is if the rules apply a > punishme

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-18 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > The key point of CFJ 2208 was that the rules relieve the contract of > the responsibility for enforcement and assume that responsibility > themselves. I can't see how this situation is in any way analogous. It is precisely analogous. The rules say: If (co

DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-18 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree to the following pledge, called HAL: > > 1. By pledge of Goethe, HAL is a biological organism that can communicate >in English. Goethe may act on behalf of HAL by announcement. Goethe >may terminate HAL b

DIS: Re: BUS: Good morning, Dave

2008-10-18 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > I agree to the following pledge, called HAL: > > 1. By pledge of Goethe, HAL is a biological organism that can communicate > in English. Goethe may act on behalf of HAL by announcement. Goethe > may terminate HAL by announcement. > > On behalf of HAL, I announce that