Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Taral wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW, I save the dice-roll emails in case I need to supply them as evidence. As a note: That doesn't quite work. You could easily request die rolls from the server until you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or just fake the email.. They bear digital signatures. -- Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> FWIW, I save the dice-roll emails in case I need to supply them as evidence. > > As a note: That doesn't quite work. You could easily request die rolls >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, I save the dice-roll emails in case I need to supply them as evidence. As a note: That doesn't quite work. You could easily request die rolls from the server until you get the answer you want. -- Taral <[EMAIL PR

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree to the following pledge > { > If Sgeo is allowed to make a prop transfer, OscarMeyr can and may > cause Sgeo to transfer a prop from Sgeo to OscarMeyr for any reason. > If this happens, this pledge is terminated. > } No mech

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

comex wrote: > I transfer one prop from OscarMeyr to Bayes: it's OscarMeyr's job, not > yours, to know the Rules concerning eir duties. Fails, ownership of props is limited to first-class players.

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 12:37 -0500, Sgeo wrote: > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:13 AM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 18:41 -0500, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > >>> Demoted to Delta: Bayes (twice!) (2

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Sgeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I transfer one prop from Bayes to ais523: Why should Bayes get a prop > when it's ais523 correcting OscarMeyr, who doesn't know the rules? HE DOES KNOW THE RULES. I'd transfer a prop from Sgeo to OscarMeyr, but I already transferr

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 18:41 -0500, Benjamin Schultz wrote: >> Demoted to Delta: Bayes (twice!) (2nd class, weakest exemption, forced) > CoE: According to rule 2211, you SHALL NOT demote the same person twice; > the 4th par

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 20:18 -0500, comex wrote: >> I'd say that I've gotten more conservative... voting against new rules >> without a good purpose and for repealing them (for example, Win by >> Junta now encompasses the role

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 20:18 -0500, comex wrote: > I'd say that I've gotten more conservative... voting against new rules > without a good purpose and for repealing them (for example, Win by > Junta now encompasses the role of Win by Proposal, although I don't > think the latter has ever been used

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Elliott Hird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "I deprive some people of a chance under a system. I then claim this is > an example of why you should vote for another system." Players at the end of the List realistically have no chance whatsoever of the Poobah ever prom

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On 2 Dec 2008, at 14:51, Geoffrey Spear wrote: I object. I encourage harblcat, Siege, and Charles to vote for OscarMeyr, who not only won't automatically prefer to demote them, but will give them a chance of every being promoted, which is impossible under Warrigal's proposed system. "I depri

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On 2 Dec 2008, at 12:12, Warrigal wrote: Without objection, I intend to amend my Grand Poobah pledge by replacing "promoting players higher in The List" with "promoting players higher in The List to those lower in The List, and those to players not in The List" and "demoting players lower in The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

Charles wrote: > 2008/12/1, Warrigal [EMAIL PROTECTED] : > > > Whenever a first-class player deregisters, e is removed from The List. > Whenever a first-class person registers, e is put at the bottom of The > List. Once per week, each person CAN by announcem

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

2008/12/1, Warrigal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Whenever a first-class player deregisters, e is removed from The List. > Whenever a first-class person registers, e is put at the bottom of The > List. Once per week, each person CAN by announcement swap two adjacent > persons in The List, as long as the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I haven't been giving the AFO voting power because you seem to vote > against me as often as not. Which, given our typical roles in Agoran > society these days, isn't all that surprising. I'd say that I've gotten more conserva

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste cycling

comex wrote: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Demoted to Gamma: Wooble (no exceptions), Bayes (2nd class, forced), >> OscarMeyr (forced, weaker exemption) >> Demoted to Delta: Bayes (twice!) (2nd class, weakest exemption, >> forced) > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Monday 13 October 2008 08:10:48 am Benjamin Schultz wrote: > 4. Caste changes will avoid promoting / demoting a player who paid > for eir own demotion / promotion respectively within the four weeks > prior to the caste change, unless the Rules require this change and > there are no other option

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

Here's a possible clarification to the policy. Change these parts of the pledge: 4. Caste changes will as best as possible avoid promoting / demoting a player who paid for eir own demotion / promotion respectively within the four weeks prior to the caste change. 5. Caste changes will as be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:27 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: FWIW, the Speaker can make promotions now (Proposal 5696). -Goethe And I was mildly curious why the RH Speaker did not exercise eir option. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, comex wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> (1) What changes would you like to see in my policy? > > Hmm. I think the current situation is too heavily balanced against > partnerships, but it wouldn't take much change for me to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (1) What changes would you like to see in my policy? Hmm. I think the current situation is too heavily balanced against partnerships, but it wouldn't take much change for me to be happy. The obvious solution is to have

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:56 PM, ehird wrote: On 6 Oct 2008, at 17:27, Kerim Aydin wrote: That's a Grand Poobah decision/policy, feel free to vote em out of office if you don't like it... -Goethe Which is exactly what me and comex are doing. In counter-argument to which: (1) What changes woul

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Oct 5, 2008, at 11:39 AM, ehird wrote: On 5 Oct 2008, at 15:03, Benjamin Schultz wrote: Demoted to Epsilon: Bayes (not first class), cdm014 (inactive). - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM Grand Poobah OscarMeyr Why do we punish partnerships with an iron first again? To favor real people in t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:49 PM, ehird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That was testing. It will only propose once a week in future. Still once a week too often. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:13, Ian Kelly wrote: I for one have no objection to mistreating partnerships that spam the game with useless proposals. :-) -root That was testing. It will only propose once a week in future. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM, ehird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5 Oct 2008, at 17:18, Ian Kelly wrote: >> >> I for one have no objection to being favored over partnerships. >> >> -root > > > Sure. But I object to partnerships being mistreated like that. > > comex very recently spent a lot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:56 PM, ehird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which is exactly what me and comex are doing. s/are doing/are trying to do/ I believe OscarMeyr made eir policies quite clear before the last election, as did Ivan Hope.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On 6 Oct 2008, at 17:27, Kerim Aydin wrote: That's a Grand Poobah decision/policy, feel free to vote em out of office if you don't like it... -Goethe Which is exactly what me and comex are doing. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, ehird wrote: > On 5 Oct 2008, at 17:18, Ian Kelly wrote: >> I for one have no objection to being favored over partnerships. >> >> -root > > Sure. But I object to partnerships being mistreated like that. > > comex very recently spent a lot to give Bayes 2 votes. It's just being

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:49 PM, ehird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bribery is even worse. Not necessarily. If bribery is in Notes, then the same people who can increase their caste through note spending can bribe the Grand Poobah to promote them; but if it's in other currencies, such as VP or chi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On 5 Oct 2008, at 22:01, Roger Hicks wrote: I could have easily been bribed to prefer certain partnerships when I was Poobah. BobTHJ Bribery is even worse. -- ehird

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 08:45, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Demoted to Epsilon: Bayes (not first class) > > Anyone up for Grand Poobah who won't prefer demoting partnerships? > I could have easily been bribed to p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On 5 Oct 2008, at 17:18, Ian Kelly wrote: I for one have no objection to being favored over partnerships. -root Sure. But I object to partnerships being mistreated like that. comex very recently spent a lot to give Bayes 2 votes. It's just being slapped down because "oh, it's a partnership"

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:39 AM, ehird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5 Oct 2008, at 15:03, Benjamin Schultz wrote: >> >> Demoted to Epsilon: Bayes (not first class), cdm014 (inactive). >> - >> Benjamin Schultz KE3OM >> Grand Poobah OscarMeyr > > > Why do we punish partnerships with an iron

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On 5 Oct 2008, at 15:03, Benjamin Schultz wrote: Demoted to Epsilon: Bayes (not first class), cdm014 (inactive). - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM Grand Poobah OscarMeyr Why do we punish partnerships with an iron first again? -- ehird

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste Cycling

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Benjamin Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Demoted to Epsilon: Bayes (not first class) Anyone up for Grand Poobah who won't prefer demoting partnerships?