DIS: [Draft] Anonymity Patch v2

2018-06-20 Thread Aris Merchant
Here's another draft. I've tweaked it to weaken the requirement by adding "directly", so presumably the tricks people have been pulling with hash-triggered pledges and the like will still work. I also upped the power, to show that I'm increasing the power of a rule past 3.0. I remain open to recomm

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Maybe a solution would be to require that it be clear that any action's performer is clear or else it does it does not occur, regardless of method. On 06/14/2018 04:59 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > I've considered that, but it's also problematic. There are message > based actions which aren't taken b

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-15 Thread Aris Merchant
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 7:04 AM Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > Amend Rule 478, "Fora", by appending > > > > "In order for an action to be taken by sending a message, the message > > must include all information (such as the sender's identity) which is >

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-15 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: Amend Rule 478, "Fora", by appending "In order for an action to be taken by sending a message, the message must include all information (such as the sender's identity) which is not generally available to players and is required to understand the game

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant
I've considered that, but it's also problematic. There are message based actions which aren't taken by announcement. For instance, voting isn't a by announcement action, and neither is a Notice of Honor. Like the other provisions toward the end of the paragraph (timing and ordering), it doesn't bel

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
A way to stop the "overriding" may be to include "sender must be clear" in the *definition* of by announcement rather than as an additional property. It's awkward to say "you did that by announcement, but it failed for reason B" and better to be able to say "you didn't do it by announcement bec

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 1:03 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > > Change the power of Rule 478, "Fora", to 3.1. > > > > [I'm astonished that no one has thought to do this before now, given > > that this rule contains conditions for ALL actions taken by sendin

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-14 Thread Corona
Nvm, it doesn't need to. ~Corona On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:06 PM, Corona wrote: > AI needs to be 3.1 > > ~Corona > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Aris Merchant gmail.com> wrote: > >> Title: Anonymity Patch >> Adoption index: 3.0 >> Author: Aris >> Co-authors: G. >> >> Amend Rule 478, "For

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 22:06 +0200, Corona wrote: > AI needs to be 3.1 It doesn't, AI 3 can do anything. (Although a power-3 rule can't /override/ a power-3.1 rule in the case of conflicts, it can /amend/ the power-3.1 rule to get rid of the conflict. On a similar basis, a power-3 proposal can amen

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-14 Thread Corona
AI needs to be 3.1 ~Corona On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Title: Anonymity Patch > Adoption index: 3.0 > Author: Aris > Co-authors: G. > > Amend Rule 478, "Fora", by appending > > "In order for an action to be taken by sending a me

Re: DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > Change the power of Rule 478, "Fora", to 3.1. > > [I'm astonished that no one has thought to do this before now, given > that this rule contains conditions for ALL actions taken by sending messages > to work.] Unless there's a specific conflict, I do

DIS: Draft: Anonymity Patch

2018-06-14 Thread Aris Merchant
Title: Anonymity Patch Adoption index: 3.0 Author: Aris Co-authors: G. Amend Rule 478, "Fora", by appending "In order for an action to be taken by sending a message, the message must include all information (such as the sender's identity) which is not generally available to players and is r