On Wed, May 6, 2020, 16:20 Aris Merchant via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I intend, with 2 support, to group-file a motion to reconsider. I agree
> with the judge's verdict, but Warrigal's objections are sufficiently
> significant that they deserve an response on the re
On Wed, May 6, 2020, 14:36 Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 5/6/2020 10:44 AM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion wrote:
> > You seem to be saying that it's possible for a value to be unambiguous
> > despite being indetermina
G., you're making some interesting arguments.
Here's how I see things, first of all.
Let's suppose the rules say that a particular switch has two possible
values, A and B. To me, there are three possible situations here.
The first situation is that it is clear which value the switch has. In this
On Wed, May 6, 2020, 01:29 Rebecca via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Indeterminacy is different to "ambiguity". The indeterminacy here arises
> from the inability to determine the location of a certain game asset,
> rather than lack of clarity in the text of the rule
Does the rule actually say "an statue" currently? Proposal 8354
replaced "an instrument" with "a statute", and presumably the
Rulekeepor accidentally recorded the new wording as "an statue"
instead. Was the mistake ratified?
—Warrigal
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 7:41 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
wrote:
> I CFJ: "The entity once known as Rule 2601 is a rule."
Argument: One of the universal principles of modifiable systems of
rules is that once a rule (or portion of a rule) is removed from the
system, that rule (or portion of a
Respectfully, although Aris's thesis is interesting and well-written,
it doesn't seem to show a great amount of analysis or research effort.
I think that to be eligible for a degree, a thesis should show more
analysis or research than, say, a typical CFJ judgement.
Speaking of which, I think at le
Is this needed? What's an example of a circumstance in which this would
prevent something bad from happening?
—Warrigal
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 23:12 Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Joining contracts (consent) is one of those things you can't act-on-behalf
> to do (R2519), though you might decide to CFJ on clause 2.
>
Oh right. I did have a vague feeling that my acting-on-
> Mar 03 2020 01:50:
> Gaelan joined, purchased 3 shares and became president
CoE: You purchased 4 shares, not 3, and you did so via my t4pf a couple of
minutes ago.
—Warrigal
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 11:34 Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Well, we purposefully error-trapped switches, which suggests that we allow
> that sort of thing if the rules are explicit about it happening:
>
But an indeterminate value is merely one that "ca
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 08:23 Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> But yeah, even if it is tradition, I'm not against just going contrary to
> it since all we need to do that is enough people agreeing to do so, and I'd
> agree to it (although, probably not righ
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 06:45 Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > My proposal would just create an ambiguity in the rules, and we never
> judge DISMISS due to an ambiguity in the rules; we pick an interpretation
> instead.
>
> Why is this? (Is it just cultur
On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 04:41 Cuddle Beam via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I think this would cause:
> - A big and spreading fog of war of CfJ DISMISS, because its "undecidable"
> and "insufficient information exists" to know what's going on with coins
>
My proposal w
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 14:50 Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> [This first proposal is a reform to the core rules defining what rules
> are, with an aim to better supporting subordinate legal documents. The
> intent is to enact very little change to the game a
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 2:44 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
> In R2125/10 (power=3) there is the following:
> > A Regulated Action CAN only be performed as described by the
> > Rules, and only using the methods explicitly specified in the
> > Rules for performing the given
Gratuitous: Rule 1742 states that a contract must be made by "one or
more consenting persons", but it doesn't specify what it is, exactly,
that the persons must consent to. It would seem reasonable to
interpret this as meaning that the persons must have consented to the
creation of a contract with
H. Herald, I notice that I am listed on the Scroll of Agora under my
former names of Zachary Watterson and Tanner L. Swett; I humbly
request that these both be updated to Warrigal.
—Warrigal, who has settled on the name of Warrigal and does not intend
to change it again without good reason
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 2:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Perhaps relevant: CFJ 3762 [0], which concluded both that a person CAN
> perform a certain action and that that action is IMPOSSIBLE.
>
> [0]: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3762
H. I feel like that ca
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 5:01 PM AIS523--- via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-02-15 at 16:54 -0500, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > All other provisions of this contract notwithstanding, this contract
> > does not permit any entity to act on behalf of any
{{{
## Bylaw 1: Definition
This contract is named "the Dragon Corporation". The purpose of the
Dragon Corporation is to earn as much money as possible for its
shareholders.
All other provisions of this contract notwithstanding, this contract
does not permit any entity to act on behalf of any oth
{{{
This contract is named "the Zombie Market".
Any entity CAN become a party to this contract by announcement. Any
party to this contract CAN cease to be a party to this contract by
announcement, unless e is the master of a zombie and does not own that
zombie's Talisman.
For each zombie whose m
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020, 10:43 Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Did we ever get the results from the blackjack game? I think at least
> one person won their hand.
>
Yowch, it looks like I botched sending the final result message. I've sent
that now.
—Warri
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020, 14:12 Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > 8331j Warrigal 1.7 Promissory cleanliness
> Conditional: AGAINST if Warrigal votes AGAINST; otherwise PRESENT. I
> don't object in principle, but, I mean, you didn't _hav
I doubt that this really does anything. Presumably, "one party" means "one
person who is a party"; there's no means by which a single person can be
multiple parties.
On a related note, years ago, it was ruled that "I act on behalf of myself
to do X" means exactly the same thing as "I do X."
Back
Without objection, I intend to go off on a little bit of a tangent.
I like how, in many laws and regulations, bullet points are often used to
write an entire section as a single, potentially extremely long sentence.
To demonstrate, here's 14 CFR 61.23(a) (the requirement for pilots to hold
a medi
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 13:32 Aris Merchant via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 591 by inserting a period
> at the end of the first three bulleted list items.
>
> [It looks weird that some of the items have periods and others don't;
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 02:10 Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 10:43 PM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> [...]
> > For what it's worth, I like this language (even though it will certainly
&g
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 01:05 omd via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Hmm... Good point. It shouldn't be. The point was to clarify that
> even if the gamestate doesn't have a list of legal fictions, legal
> fictions can still exist due to rules (which are themselves par
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 21:25 James Cook via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> 2. Do you think my "Last Week in Agora" summaries are useful? Any other
>comments? So far I've acted unilaterally in writing them, just to
>get something started, but I'm open to doing th
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020, 19:41 omd via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> A rule may state or imply that 'X is treated as if it
> were Y', but this is considered an attempt to redefine X,
> subject to the usual standards for definitions.
>
What's the purpos
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 12:21 AM James Cook wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 01:30, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > then a legal fiction is established that the belief was true at the time of
> > the earliest public message indicating the belief; and the gamestat
Gratuitous postmortem arguments on CFJ 3796:
I don't think it's necessary to bring Rule 217 into this at all; scams
of this type simply can't work. I'll explain why I think that.
Imagine that the city of Grand Rapids, Michigan enacts an ordinance
which states that, the United States Constitution
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 22:37 Alexis Hunt via agora-official <
agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award twg the Patent Title of Associate
> of Nomic, subject to the conditions that the person performing the award
> pursuant to this intent is the Herald, the f
I have a half-serious half-proto-proposal:
"Implicit Ratification", AI: 3
Repeal all rules relating to ratification. Enact the following rule: {
In the course of playing the game, it is inevitable that from time to time,
an error in recordkeeping will occur and go unnoticed for such a long time
I've been thinking about what makes Agora difficult to play as compared to
other games.
Something I've noticed about the current rules is that lots of game actions
and effects are all woven together in such a way that if a mistake is made
with any piece of it, the mistake can quickly propagate and
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 12:31 Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> You kids and your timely fashions. When I was young, we did things as soon
> as possible both ways and we liked it!
>
You know, I *still* think of VVLOP and second-class persons (and
second-cl
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 18:43 Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> [Informal title: "Pronouns"]
>
> {
>
> The singular non-gendered pronoun is "e" in the nominative, and "em" in
> the accusative. Do not use "they" as a singular pronoun. Do not use
> "he/him/his" or
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 3:50 PM Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business
wrote:
> Matthew Berlin wrote:
> > If you publish a hash of the shoe beforehand, and the entire shoe
> > afterwards for verification of the hash, you might get more takers,
>
> I know next to nothing about blackjack, but that sou
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 3:08 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
> CFJ: If a player other than Tanner Swett gives Tanner Swett 2 coins in
> reference to the quoted pledge, it creates a contract between Tanner Swett and
> that player.
Not-so-gratuitous arguments:
The Rules state that a cont
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:06 AM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
wrote:
> [...]
> > On Jan 23, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> > Of course, "TCC" stands for "the TCC Corporation."
>
> Shouldn’t this be TTC, t
It's never too late to try to found a company which aspires to take
over the world.
{
## Bylaw 1: Definition
This contract is named "the TCC Corporation". The purpose of the TCC
Corporation is to earn as much money as possible for its
shareholders.
Shares of TCC stock (herein
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