DIS: Scam Wrap-Up

2020-06-27 Thread nch via agora-discussion
To make this more clear, the finding of CFJ3858 basically kills R. Lee and I's scam. It finds that notices are delayed by withdrawing objections, so the opposition would've just had to take turns withdrawing objections to delay us by several days until the patch (or motion for no confidence) pa

Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament

2020-06-27 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 6:32 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/27/20 9:29 PM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > > Im not sure this contract itself can technically override No Faking, > > however it should be clear from context as the game go

Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament

2020-06-27 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
Looks good to me. Maybe a few typos here and there, but nothing game-breaking. Looking forward to playing! On 6/27/2020 7:44 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: Here are my draft regulations for the annual Birthday Tournament. I intend, Without 3 Objections, to ena

Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament

2020-06-27 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 9:29 PM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > Im not sure this contract itself can technically override No Faking, > however it should be clear from context as the game goes on that nobody > intends their statenents to be true. > > Acting on eir own behalf is fine terminology that we

Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament

2020-06-27 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
Im not sure this contract itself can technically override No Faking, however it should be clear from context as the game goes on that nobody intends their statenents to be true. Acting on eir own behalf is fine terminology that we have used before. On Sun., 28 Jun. 2020, 11:21 am Jason Cobb via a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Resolving Ambiguous Decisions

2020-06-27 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 9:26 PM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > Something must be valid in order to have binding legal effect, surely thats > what valid means (and my judgement on notices doesnt conflict with that). Well, this is proof that there's disagreement. I think I'm being relatively reasonab

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Resolving Ambiguous Decisions

2020-06-27 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
Something must be valid in order to have binding legal effect, surely thats what valid means (and my judgement on notices doesnt conflict with that). On Sun., 28 Jun. 2020, 11:23 am Jason Cobb via agora-discussion, < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/27/20 9:16 PM, Ed Strange via ago

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Resolving Ambiguous Decisions

2020-06-27 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 9:16 PM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > No, i said they may not disagree. Any contention that valid and effective > are not synonyms is, with respect, unreasonable The argument is that "the announcement" (i.e. the message) being not "valid" is different from the attempt not b

Re: DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament

2020-06-27 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 7:44 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > Here are my draft regulations for the annual Birthday Tournament. > > I intend, Without 3 Objections, to enact the following — modified from > previous Birthday regulations and a variety of rulesets for Diplomacy, > p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Resolving Ambiguous Decisions

2020-06-27 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
No, i said they may not disagree. Any contention that valid and effective are not synonyms is, with respect, unreasonable On Sun., 28 Jun. 2020, 11:12 am Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion, < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/27/2020 6:06 PM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Resolving Ambiguous Decisions

2020-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/27/2020 6:06 PM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > I point a finger at jason for uncertain certification. Reasonable players > may not disagree about the operation of the current wording. Which means it's an ambiguity which is covered by CP? -G.

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Resolving Ambiguous Decisions

2020-06-27 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
I point a finger at jason for uncertain certification. Reasonable players may not disagree about the operation of the current wording. On Sun., 28 Jun. 2020, 11:02 am Jason Cobb via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I submit the following proposal and certify it as a patch

DIS: Draft Regulations for Diplonomic Birthday Tournament

2020-06-27 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
Here are my draft regulations for the annual Birthday Tournament. I intend, Without 3 Objections, to enact the following — modified from previous Birthday regulations and a variety of rulesets for Diplomacy, primarily those of EPCC [0] and the official rules [1] — as the regulations for this year'

DIS: Re: BUS: Honor among Pirates [Attn. All "Pirates"]

2020-06-27 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/16/20 3:17 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: > I could have just let this pass and banked some MAJOR coinage but the > long-term consequences of having people be paranoid about my contracts > isn't worth it imo, I much prefer to have people's trust that I won't > betray them on contr

DIS: Re: BUS: [Rulekeepor] Tapecutter intent [Patent Title Award]

2020-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/27/2020 2:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 6/23/20 12:01 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I intend, with 2 Agoran consent, to award G. the Patent Title of >> Tapecutter for Proposal 8407, "no stinking auction definitions". >> > > Seeing 3 support and no objections

Re: Nomic 217 Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/27/2020 2:43 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > On 6/27/20 12:10 AM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Cook wrote: >>> I've thought it would be interesting to play a Nomic that starts with >>> just one simple rule with text like "This is a Nom

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-27 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/26/2020 11:11 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:29 PM nch wrote: >> On 6/25/20 6:40 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: >>> Title: Regulatory Instruments v2 >>> Author: Jason >>> Coauthors: Aris >>> Adoption index: 3.0 >> >> Reading this it seems mechanically sound. However I kind of ag

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-27 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 10:03 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > well i can still buy extra votes if voting is ever important to me (voting > can't go below 0) If you have 30 blots, your voting strength would be at -10 before clamping. Even if you buy 3 extra votes, you'll be at -7, which is clamped

Re: DIS: [proto] Regulatory Instruments draft

2020-06-27 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 2:11 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:29 PM nch via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/25/20 6:40 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Title: Regulatory Instruments v2 >>> Author: Jason >>> Coauthors:

Re: Nomic 217 Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-27 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 6/27/2020 5:43 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/27/20 12:10 AM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: I've thought it would be interesting to play a Nomic that starts with just one simple ru

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-27 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
well i can still buy extra votes if voting is ever important to me (voting can't go below 0) On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 11:55 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/27/20 9:53 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > > I have no defense (I also don't REALLY care h

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-27 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 9:53 AM, Ed Strange via agora-discussion wrote: > I have no defense (I also don't REALLY care how many blots i get as long as > it's less than 40, so 7 blots each is fine) > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:39 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-business wrote: > >> On 6/19/20

DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-27 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
I have no defense (I also don't REALLY care how many blots i get as long as it's less than 40, so 7 blots each is fine) On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:39 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 6/19/20 9:27 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > I certify every proposal

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-27 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
to be fair, this might be different if i had not made it clear that i rule you all like a monarch On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 11:14 AM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Cook via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@ag

Re: Nomic 217 Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-27 Thread Ed Strange via agora-discussion
this nomic already exists: it's the ruleset of my discord server. nerds. On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 11:10 PM nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 6/27/20 4:43 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 6/27/20 12:10 AM, omd via agora-d

Re: Nomic 217 Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-27 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 4:43 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/27/20 12:10 AM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Cook via agora-discussion >> wrote: >>> I've thought it would be interesting to play a Nomic that starts with >>> just on

Re: DIS: Re: [Indictment] Re: BUS: actually fuck it

2020-06-27 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/26/20 11:50 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:39 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via > agora-business wrote: >> Here is the list of proposals that I believe were pended in this way — > > I think my proposal "Reset deadlines when resetting the economy" was > a

Nomic 217 Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3851 judged TRUE

2020-06-27 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/27/20 12:10 AM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:12 PM James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: >> I've thought it would be interesting to play a Nomic that starts with >> just one simple rule with text like "This is a Nomic; figure the rest >> out.". Or just on rul