DIS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto v2

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
[Second draft. Now as pure tournament regs not contract. Added a few bits, and slowed the game down]. FANTASY RULES CONTRACT PROTO. 0. G. CANNOT win this Tournament or become a Contestant. G. is the Judge (gamemaster) of this game. 1. For 4 days after the contest begins, any person

DIS: Re: BUS: Don't panic, G!

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
Well I *was* going to have you award me your White Ribbon, but I won't :) On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, Telnaior wrote: > So today's Agora's Birthday, or something like that? > > I publicly acknowledge that fact, and then award myself a Magenta Ribbon. > Look, just because I'm spending most of my time

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread David Nicol
forwarded to FRC as a theme suggestion. As I said, they're between rounds. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 4:24 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 14:09 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > But more to the point maybe this theme would end up as graybe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 14:09 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > But more to the point maybe this theme would end up as graybeard-only > > which wasn't my intent (but that was great addition to the previous > > memoirs Dave!) - I was thinking entries would be as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 14:09 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > But more to the point maybe this theme would end up as graybeard-only > which wasn't my intent (but that was great addition to the previous > memoirs Dave!) - I was thinking entries would be as much about judicial > procedure as the actual arg

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
Wel maybe. But more to the point maybe this theme would end up as graybeard-only which wasn't my intent (but that was great addition to the previous memoirs Dave!) - I was thinking entries would be as much about judicial procedure as the actual arguments, e.g. "your honor, the next Rule

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread David Nicol
what, you're going to argue against "Dave believes there is a consensus" ? On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 3:19 PM Kerim Aydin wrote: > I'm *vey* tempted to write the counter-arguments for this but > that's the whole point of the tournament ;) > -- "At this point, given the limited available data,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
I'm *vey* tempted to write the counter-arguments for this but that's the whole point of the tournament ;) On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, David Nicol wrote: > Well, having been there when it happened, after giving all you kids a > moment to appreciate the grey in my beard, here's what happened: > >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread David Nicol
Well, having been there when it happened, after giving all you kids a moment to appreciate the grey in my beard, here's what happened: (1) FRC began as a discussion within NW towards creating a bounded, "playable" rule set, and has had a continuous monotonically increasing round number since then;

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, David Nicol wrote: > FRC is, you know, currently between rounds. > > Regarding the theme of > "OYEZ, OYEZ! THE DISPUTE BEFORE US TODAY IS WHETHER FRC OR AGORA IS THE > TRUE INHERITOR OF NOMIC WORLD". > > I think there's a "matter of genuine controversy" issue. What diffe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley
Excuse me if I'm wrong because Agora is older than I am, but to me it seems that the whole "Agora vs. FRC" debate is more of an in-joke between the two groups than an actual serious debate. Saying that one is more worthy than another is an impossible task since both of them are different in importa

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread David Nicol
FRC is, you know, currently between rounds. Regarding the theme of "OYEZ, OYEZ! THE DISPUTE BEFORE US TODAY IS WHETHER FRC OR AGORA IS THE TRUE INHERITOR OF NOMIC WORLD". I think there's a "matter of genuine controversy" issue. What difference does this bragging right make? And why can't it be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: > I'd tend to give yourself a bit more discussion to render things invalid, > such as if they're off theme or too hard but not impossible. My main edits are to slow down the pace a bit and allow for discussion and a little more flexibility in exactly th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Aris Merchant
I'd tend to give yourself a bit more discussion to render things invalid, such as if they're off theme or too hard but not impossible. Also, keep in mind that you're not going to be able to do this until the new contracts pass. Oh, and I'd appreciate a pledge not to maliciously amend or deliberatel

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
It's not really my kind of thing but I'll certainly join in if it happens. I can't see any loopholes. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 29, 2018 5:15 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ​​ > > So there were no comments on this is there interest? I have a few > > minor edits but otherwis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Zombie ribbons - I wonder if this works?

2018-06-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Ah, it turns out this is because my email provider is being targeted by a denial-of-service attack at the moment. No problem on Agora's end this time. Frankly I'm quite impressed they're still managing to get my own messages to you. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 29, 2018 4:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley
I'll join it if you decide to go through with it. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 11:16 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > So there were no comments on this is there interest? I have a few > minor edits but otherwise it can be started - but depends on whether > people want to play it. > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2018, Keri

DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contract Proto

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
So there were no comments on this is there interest? I have a few minor edits but otherwise it can be started - but depends on whether people want to play it. On Wed, 27 Jun 2018, Kerim Aydin wrote: > [ > Ok, running out of time. This is a quick job. Please look and > consider! > referen

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
There's good aspects to both methods. How about an alternating thing: switch auction types every other auction. On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > Specifically in reference to G.'s third point here, you can go ahead and > propose a single auction switch and you would likely get plenty

DIS: Re: BUS: Zombie ribbons - I wonder if this works?

2018-06-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Side note: This message (from G.) is the only one I've received in this thread. I didn't receive Aris's, or copies of my own, although I can see them at mail-archive.com. -twg ​​ ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On June 29, 2018 4:31 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ​​ > > I object. > > (Not that

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley
Specifically in reference to G.'s third point here, you can go ahead and propose a single auction switch and you would likely get plenty of votes. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 10:43 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > 1. It was thought that being able to target land units you actually > wanted geographically was

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
1. It was thought that being able to target land units you actually wanted geographically was better for strategy and would promote interesting auctions (you could decide to bid a lot for land units close to the center or less for units on the periphery). 2. It gave a big advantage to people

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley
We've had a single auction before. There were fewer bids, and all the land units also sold for less. Although I suppose that at this point, it might be better to have one auction because of the nearness of monopolization. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 10:29 Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Can I ask why the l

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Can I ask why the land auction was split into five originally? Unless I'm misunderstanding something, having it as one auction with five lots ensures that each lot goes to a different person, which makes it impossible for one person to monopolise land as Corona seems to be planning to do imminen

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley
As much as I would like to play with the current mechanics, doing so would likely mean everyone would get burnt out with the game because Corona would be the only one who could play. And by gosh, I'm going to prolong Arcadia's life as a mechanic as long as I can, even if it means rewriting the whol

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
Thanks for the explanation. On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, Reuben Staley wrote: > This. This is exactly what I was about to respond with. > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 09:47 Corona wrote: > > > What's not working? > > > > 1) land transfiguration (kind of the reason land types exist in the first > > place)

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley
This. This is exactly what I was about to respond with. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 09:47 Corona wrote: > What's not working? > > 1) land transfiguration (kind of the reason land types exist in the first > place) is useless > 2) I think I can make a terribly overpowered lv. 5 refinery (13 coins/1 > or

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Corona
What's not working? 1) land transfiguration (kind of the reason land types exist in the first place) is useless 2) I think I can make a terribly overpowered lv. 5 refinery (13 coins/1 ore) next week, meaning I'll have so many coins that nobody else will be able to win any more land, ever. ~Corona

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Kerim Aydin
So I've been planning land purchases, upgrades, and production flow for the next month, it's been fun to do. It's a nice little resource management/placement game right now. But each/every proposal like this throws such planning out the window. If something like this goes through atm, I'm p

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Corona
Sorry, didn't read it thoroughly, nevermind that. "A facility has a number of Allowed Land Types not equal to 0." - makes it sound like it's an integer. what about a nonempty set of land types ~Corona On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > Well, since ranks would no longer ex

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley
Well, since ranks would no longer exist, why would we need anything but a flat rate? On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 09:28 Corona wrote: > It did, it's just that nobody discussed it, I guess. Why did you change the > upkeep of the processing facilities to 5 coins flat in the second email? > > ~Corona > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Flag Day

2018-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley
Happy birthday Agora! I award myself a Magenta ribbon. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 09:26 Corona wrote: > Happy birthday Agora! Want to feel old? The year of your founding is > temporally closer to the Soviet Union than to me! > > I award myself a Magenta Ribbon. > > ~Corona > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 a

Re: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Corona
It did, it's just that nobody discussed it, I guess. Why did you change the upkeep of the processing facilities to 5 coins flat in the second email? ~Corona On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > I think this email didn't get sent to you guys, so I'm just going to > forward it.

Fwd: DIS: Proto: MALF

2018-06-29 Thread Reuben Staley
I think this email didn't get sent to you guys, so I'm just going to forward it. -- Forwarded message - From: Reuben Staley Date: Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 16:50 Subject: DIS: Proto: MALF To: Agora Discussion Name: More Advanced Land Features AI: TBD Author: Trigon Co-authors: [ PART

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Cartographor] Land auctions for June week 4

2018-06-29 Thread Corona
lol too late, the auction has ended and I won everything ~Corona On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 4:42 PM, ATMunn wrote: > I bid 23 coins on 3. > > I have no idea where it is, by the way, I just want more land. lol. > > > On 6/28/2018 4:56 PM, Corona wrote: > >> NTTPF >> >> I bid 21 coins in auctions 4