Well, having been there when it happened, after giving all you kids a moment to appreciate the grey in my beard, here's what happened:
(1) FRC began as a discussion within NW towards creating a bounded, "playable" rule set, and has had a continuous monotonically increasing round number since then; the biggest change since then in its immutable rules having been extending the deadlines from one week to two at some point. (2) Due to the maintaner of the NW Mud graduating from Monash and not his wishing to continue the volunteer service of maintaining a MOO server, NW shut down and essentially phoenixed into Agora, based on mailing lists instead Therefore, the question of who's got the bragging right to Longest Running Nomic is clearly either FRC or Agora, and the issue at dispute is if Agora gets to claim NW's start as its beginning or the transition. I believe there is a consensus that Agora began with the formation of Agora, with NW as informing experience, giving FRC the bragging right, although it does not toot this horn at https://sites.google.com/site/fantasyrulescommittee/ . One can play FRC without making a full time job out of it: there is no carryover of mutables from one round to the next, even when, as happened with the recent Agoran Invasion round, the mutables attempt to fundamentally redefine time itself. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:38 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, David Nicol wrote: > > FRC is, you know, currently between rounds. > > > > Regarding the theme of > > "OYEZ, OYEZ! THE DISPUTE BEFORE US TODAY IS WHETHER FRC OR AGORA IS THE > > TRUE INHERITOR OF NOMIC WORLD". > > > > I think there's a "matter of genuine controversy" issue. What difference > > does this bragging right make? And why can't it be both? Is NW in > probate? > > I was just looking for a theme that would promote CFJ-like legal arguments > as moves. But it's just from a conversation that came up in Agora > discussion > last month, plus the fact that FRC had a round that "included" other nomics > recently. To paraphrase our discussion: > > "Hey, the Agora 25th anniversary is coming up!" > > "I wonder if Agora is the longest-running nomic in the world?" > > Ørjan: "Actually *ahem* FRC started a little earlier". > > Then we looked up the dates and noted that FRC started around Feb-Mar > 1993 so lasted a little longer, then we had a little friendly discussion > about whether Agora was somehow "more continuous" with Nomic World in > spirit. > > But I'm totally open to other wordings/ideas that keep the theme > of Agoran CFJ-like legal quibbling over this sort of philosophical > fine point. > > > -- "At this point, given the limited available data, certainty about only a very small number of things can be achieved." -- Plato, and others