DIS: Automation status update

2018-02-07 Thread Edward Murphy
I've set up a PostgreSQL database with relevant gamestate (as of some time last Monday) and event log going back to 1/1/2018, and http://zenith.homelinux.net/adop/report.php which auto-generates all the things. Next up is to create and use a UI to record new events and update relevant tables (e.g.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
(obviously) On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:31 AM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Alex Smith > wrote: > >> On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 02:58 +0100, Ørjan Johansen wrote: >> > On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Madeline wrote: >> > > On 2018-02-08 12:26, Ørjan Johansen wrote: >> > >> (I think option

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 02:58 +0100, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Madeline wrote: > > > On 2018-02-08 12:26, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > >> (I think option 1 is redundant with option 2, anyway. Limericks _do_ > have > > >> rhyming s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 02:58 +0100, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Madeline wrote: > > On 2018-02-08 12:26, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > >> (I think option 1 is redundant with option 2, anyway. Limericks _do_ have > >> rhyming scheme and strict meter.) > > > > I think it kind of works if yo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018, Madeline wrote: On 2018-02-08 12:26, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: Ok so, hear me out, this is a limerick about butts It's pretty good, I've got this down, butts. give each Agoran a shiny, butts And a coin, butts This is a classy proposal - b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
It's a bit subtle but I've used the clever technique of rhyming butts with butts On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:29 AM, Madeline wrote: > On 2018-02-08 12:26, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: >> >> Ok so, hear me out, this is a limerick about butts >>> It's pretty good,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Madeline
On 2018-02-08 12:26, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: Ok so, hear me out, this is a limerick about butts It's pretty good, I've got this down, butts. give each Agoran a shiny, butts And a coin, butts This is a classy proposal - butts butts butts! Going for the joke

DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote: Ok so, hear me out, this is a limerick about butts It's pretty good, I've got this down, butts. give each Agoran a shiny, butts And a coin, butts This is a classy proposal - butts butts butts! Going for the joke option, I take, since it fulfils none of th

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Full Logical Ruleset

2018-02-07 Thread Alexis Hunt
Admitted. On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 at 00:26 Telnaior wrote: > CoE on both the FLR and the SLR: Rule 2507 ("Black Cards") was never > validly enacted. > > > On 2018-02-07 14:22, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > > Rule 2507/0 (Power=2.0) >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
>I don't believe the interpretation that I am either but just in case the CFJ goes towards that I am Ok I mixed that up lol with the interpretation that SOMEONE ELSE could become, in my head. Oh gheez lol. I believe that I myself am, but no that someone else could become. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
Oh true. What I pointed out is a different thing, woops. Well I guess I can just don the lyre again lol. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > I designated you as next week's, not this week's. > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 at 13:38 Cuddle Beam wrote: > > > I don't believe the interpret

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Alexis Hunt
I designated you as next week's, not this week's. On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 at 13:38 Cuddle Beam wrote: > I don't believe the interpretation that I am either but just in case the > CFJ goes towards that I am, I did the thing. > > "Each Agoran Week a Player is designated the Silly Person. The Silly Pers

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
I don't believe the interpretation that I am either but just in case the CFJ goes towards that I am, I did the thing. "Each Agoran Week a Player is designated the Silly Person. The Silly Person SHALL in that week (...) submit a Silly Proposal." You designated me Silly Person THIS week. So in THAT

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Voluntary silliness

2018-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
Yah I was 50/50 on it myself - tag is a perfect metaphor and that convinces me. Though no reason we can't combine maybe (only the Silly Person gets a free pending and it's still a requirement, but anyone can participate to get to 3 they can get the title...?) On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread Alexis Hunt
Except e isn't yet. On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 at 13:28 ATMunn wrote: > So this is what happens when CB becomes the silly person... > > On 2/7/2018 12:29 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > Yes it is I, ladies and damsels, the master of muse, the tsar of taste. > > > > Ahem. > > > > *clears throat with some yode

DIS: Re: BUS: Rejoice, the Limerickmeister, has FINALLY arrived to grace Agora

2018-02-07 Thread ATMunn
So this is what happens when CB becomes the silly person... On 2/7/2018 12:29 PM, Cuddle Beam wrote: Yes it is I, ladies and damsels, the master of muse, the tsar of taste. Ahem. *clears throat with some yodeling* Indeed, I hereby create the following proposal named "An utmost excellent propo

DIS: Re: BUS: Voluntary silliness

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
I think this would hamper the fun of the mechanic. Like, playing Tag or Spin the Bottle but you can just voluntarily be It or the person chosen is a bit weird. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Proposal, Voluntary Silliness, AI-1: > > --

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
This is how I've been reading it too. There is no "whoever you designate, becomes Silly Person." kind of thing. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > My read is that "The Silly Person SHALL in that week, by announcement (1) > designate another player, who has not been the Silly Pe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
Think of it this way. By R2152, CAN is simply a shorthand definition for "Attempts to perform the described action are successful." There are other ways to write the same thing - synonyms for CAN. The rule says: There IS a designated silly person - that was successfully designated by designat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Alexis Hunt
My read is that "The Silly Person SHALL in that week, by announcement (1) designate another player, who has not been the Silly Person in the past two weeks, to be the next week's Silly Person;" fails because it doesn't specify a method. But "If there is ever no Silly Person or the Silly Person is n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
What stops me from designating by announcement anyone at any moment, then? The SHALL only puts restrictions as you say, but to be restricted into the shape of that I should only do it during a certain week, I must've had those powers all along. (And SHALL isn't even a full mechanical restriction, i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
Well there's a public ("by announcement) requirement and a week's delay, but yes... (also, even if it fails to *make* me the silly person, you can still do the designation and are required to. Worst case scenario you still MUST submit a proposal and make a designation announcement, even if it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
So, if I just say now "I designate G as the Silly Person", you become it? On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Um, you *already* CAN submit a proposal. That's described elsewhere. > > You already CAN designate someone as something - it's a speech > act by common definition.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
Um, you *already* CAN submit a proposal. That's described elsewhere. You already CAN designate someone as something - it's a speech act by common definition. This just puts a SHALL on doing those things in specific ways. No CANs required. Not broken. On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Cuddle Beam wrote:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Alexis Hunt
Ah yes, that is broken. But the process of designating a silly person when there is none is not broken, so this assignment succeeds. On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 at 11:34 Cuddle Beam wrote: > It's got a SHALL, not CAN > > R1650 doesn't give you any powers to actually do what this SHALL is > commanding you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Cuddle Beam
It's got a SHALL, not CAN R1650 doesn't give you any powers to actually do what this SHALL is commanding you to. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 5:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > How was it broken? I thought we used it successfully for a > while and then just forgot. > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, ATMunn wrot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
How was it broken? I thought we used it successfully for a while and then just forgot. On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, ATMunn wrote: > > did the rule for get get fixed? > > On 2/6/2018 9:53 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > I designate Cuddle Beam as next week's Silly Person. > > > > -Alexis > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Designation

2018-02-07 Thread ATMunn
did the rule for get get fixed? On 2/6/2018 9:53 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote: I designate Cuddle Beam as next week's Silly Person. -Alexis

DIS: Read-the-ruleset: ruleset quirks series

2018-02-07 Thread Kerim Aydin
(Looking for odd misunderstandings of how rules function - entries encouraged) Assertion If a person holds two offices each with a weekly report, then e has the single duty of producing one weekly report combining both offices (though it can be produced in parts). Arguments Seems like a stra